2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNew poll sees spoiler role for Bloomberg in Trump-Sanders matchup
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/17/politics/michael-bloomberg-donald-trump-bernie-sanders-poll/Washington (CNN)Michael Bloomberg has a very slim chance of winning the presidency should he declare a bid, but he could cost Bernie Sanders the White House in a hypothetical three-way matchup with Donald Trump, a new poll finds.
A USA Today/Suffolk University poll released Wednesday found Trump slightly edging out Sanders in a head-to-head matchup, 44% to 43%, within the poll's margin of error. But if the former New York City mayor entered the race, he would likely siphon off almost twice as many Sanders supporters as Trump backers -- leaving Trump at 37%, Sanders at 30% and Bloomberg with 16%.
Interesting....what about a Clinton Trump ....?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Now, do I trust Bloomberg? Not particularly. But at least as of now he's saying he would run if it were Sanders-Cruz or Sanders-Trump.
A Bloomberg run would be an absolute disaster for us.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)to doing anything for the American people.
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)He has to declare well before Bernie would be the clear winner ĺ absent a total collapse for Clinton).
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Fear-mongering bs maybe? Over 60% of republicans are horrified by Trump, and they won't vote for Bloomberg? I don't buy it.
2) Bloomerg is going to drop a couple hundred million just to come in third place and elect Trump? What does that gain him or the Democratic Party?
3) if the establishment is that panicked about a Sanders nomination, they'll just deny it to him and live with a party split and Trump victory...same result.
IOW, this is just a hollow threat to make us dirty hippies get back in line. Fuck 'em.
UnBlinkingEye
(56 posts)For a control freak that wants to make it illegal to super size your soda.
yourout
(7,531 posts)Bernie is the guy that big money will stop at nothing to stop. Everyone else is already on the payroll.
Nite Owl
(11,303 posts)that Clinton would be the one to lose votes. Someone who just doesn't like her but is ideologically the same would take her votes.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)http://www.inquisitr.com/2667052/poll-shows-hillary-clinton-could-easily-lose-to-donald-trump-in-general-election/
Bernie would steamroll Trump: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/poll-against-bernie-sanders-donald-trump-would-get-schlonged-20151223
Nice try though.
FBaggins
(26,748 posts)A two point spread before the conventions is entirely irrelevant.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)her campaign. Voters are sick of sell outs.
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)the polls showing Hillary losing to Trump in the GE
Nite Owl
(11,303 posts)all of the rebukes by large margins.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)... and the corporatist media would try to make both Trump and Bernie "xenophobic" in their stances against H-1B, even though that would be a false label of Bernie's campaign. That way, corporate lobbies, etc. would figure that either Bloomberg would siphon off pro-immigration votes from Bernie by that propaganda, or Trump would win as his supporters wouldn't care if they were labeled xenophobic. I think that's their plan.
All the more reason why it is essential to find a way to get a question asked to both Hillary and Bernie in the remaining Democratic Debates on their stances on H-1B and other guest labor programs, to allow Bernie get a public platform on speaking on his true views on this subject than be "defined" by corporate media propaganda, who would rather either Bloomberg or Trump get elected than Bernie.
Heck even the Republicans have been talking specifically about H-1B programs in their debates already.
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)Is America really that FUCKED UP! REALLY? Then again, we've been losing the class war since Reagan..and I'd like class warfare out in the open... it's time for the long overdue counteroffensive...
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)own significant self-regard.
But if he does decide to get into the presidential race as an independent, he's going to get his ass kicked.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)The single biggest item Sanders supporters oppose is the control of politics by big money-and this bullshit is on the foundational "fact" that they assume 1/3 of Sanders supporters would prefer Bloomberg. I want some of what the writer is smoking.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)They will work together to stop Bernie any way they can.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)they would vote for Bloomberg should Sanders win the nomination.
I've even pushed back on them after Scalia died and they all pretty much said, "let the chips fall where they will, the closest thing to a real Democrat in such a race would be Bloomberg."