2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders: ‘If We Can Rebuild Villages in Iraq, We Can Damn Well Rebuild Flint, Michigan’
Speaking at a campaign stop in Michigan on Monday, Sen. Bernie Sanders said that the embattled community of Flint is the canary in the coal mine in a country that has seemingly endless money to spend on wars in the Middle East, but cannot afford to protect its citizens or rebuild its aging infrastructure.
It is beyond my comprehension that in the year 2016 in the United States of America we are poisoning our children, he told a crowd of more than 9,300 people at Eastern Michigan University after meeting with a number of Flint residents earlier in the day.
Can you imagine being a mother, seeing your own babys, your own childs intellectual development, deteriorate in front of your very eyes? he asked the crowd during a mid-afternoon rally. That is happening all over that city.
http://ecowatch.com/2016/02/17/bernie-sanders-flint/
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)It says something about our nation when the notion that we should take of our citizens and our communities makes someone radically left.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)You old rainbow farting unicorn pony riding dreamer. Be pragmatic, no one can afford to save brown people at home when we're too busy killing brown people abroad!
Silly rabbit
I have to say though squatty potty commercials have ruined the "rainbow farting unicorn" analogies for me.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Use military funds and the Army Corps of Engineers to fix Flint, and then move on to the rest of the nation.
Get the job done.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)We have the talent and training.
Yeah, yeah, socialism and "It's too haaard".
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)but it would be a chance to funnel money to contractors who are women and/or people of color. It's tricky, there are always people gaming the system with shadow owners, but it can be done.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Whatever works and let's get to work.
Stryst
(714 posts)bacteria designated an enemy combatant. Then there would be money to deal with it.
We could probably get Republicans to vote for war against lead if we told them lead was sympathetic to Isis
Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)Thanks for the thread, UglyGreed.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I just met with seven or eight residents of Flint, Mich. I obviously have read the newspapers, and have been somewhat involved in the issue, but I really did not know how ugly, how horrible and how terrible what is going on there is. It is beyond my comprehension that in the year 2016, in the United States of America, we are poisoning our children.
You see why it's important for politicians to go to these places first hand.
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)that he went there recently*, he hasn't actually gone yet. This meeting with the 7 or 8 residents happened prior to one of his rallies elsewhere in Michigan.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/15/bernie-sanders-meets-with-resident-of-flint-before-campaign-rally-in-michigan/
* I won't call out the poster by linking to that thread, but you probably saw it. It was the one that featured a picture of Bernie in a similar pose to this famous Post-Katrina pic:
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Glad to see Sanders catching up with Clinton on Flint.
navarth
(5,927 posts)how sweet.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)and Hillary love for it..............
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)Not you that I'm referring to!!
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)But he has yet to selfishly scurry out there for photo ops.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)What, exactly?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Well, there good attention and there's bad attention. Dunno if she gets that.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)"On Saturday, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) called on Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder (R) to resign over the lead poisoning crisis in Flint. Three days later, Snyder remains in office, and Sanders has moved on after generating a fair amount of media attention.
On Thursday, Hillary Clinton went on national television and chastised Snyder for refusing to ask for federal assistance in order to help the affected residents. Two hours after that interview aired on "The Rachel Maddow Show" on MSNBC, the governor did just that.
Clinton had also already dispatched two of her top aides -- including one with years of experience working for a Michigan senator -- to the state to assist Flint Mayor Karen Weaver (D) with whatever she needed.
The different approaches are emblematic of the ways the two Democratic presidential candidates respond to problems -- and would perhaps continue to do so if they win the presidency. Sanders goes big, not always worrying about whether what he's proposing is politically realistic. Clinton, meanwhile, focuses on the pragmatic instead of the aspirational, using her experience as a guide to what can get done. "
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-flint_us_569e66c3e4b04c8137617f05
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)and the flint mayor...snyder is not giving the town the money to start actually replacing pipes
too bad there isn't some rich,famous foundation out there that could give the funds needed to start
snyder needs to be prosecuted
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)and he is the only presidential candidate with an office in Flint.
His office is also helping to deliver water to Flint residents.
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)redruddyred
(1,615 posts)how are the GOP candidates going to stretch out their debates for two hours?
jalan48
(13,870 posts)Orrex
(63,216 posts)And then never use it.
Roy Rolling
(6,918 posts)Typical big government, socialist dictator. Where is my liberty and freedom to poison my kids? What about my freedom?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)there is in rebuilding Flint.
And, remember, in rebuilding villages in Iraq, there is the element of cheap, outsourced labor! Those people have been bombed into submission and will work for almost nothing!
The system works!!!
Tanuki
(14,918 posts)and Development Fund. This was founded by Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha, who has been at the forefront of sounding the alarm on this, bringing it to the public's attention, and providing direct care to the children affected by this tragedy.
https://www.cfgf.org/cfgf/GoodWork/FlintArea/WaterCrisis/tabid/855/Default.aspx
Dr. Mona has said "If there was ever a time to invest in our children, it is now. Our Flint children deserve every opportunity to be healthy and successful. The creation of this Fund will further ensure that our children are afforded the resources and interventions to overcome this population-wide exposure to lead.
The Fund, established at the Community Foundation of Greater Flint, is a supplemental resource to the ongoing pursuit of state and federal funding. Grants will be advised by a committee of community members with representation from residents, Hurley Childrens Hospital, Mott Childrens Health Center, Greater Flint Health Coalition, United Way of Genesee County, and the Community Foundation of Greater Flint.
A gift today to the Flint Child Health & Development Fund will be used to aid children with interventions that support positive health outcomes for Flint children, including:
Immediate response
Optimal child health & development
Early childhood education
Educational and Student Support Services
Continuous access to a pediatric medical home
Access to infant and child behavioral health services
Nutrition education
Healthy food access
Safe & healthy home environments
Integrated social services
Research
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)Arizona Roadrunner
(168 posts)President Obama should visit Flint first before visiting Cuba. The Mayor along with the talent from Lansing has a plan and program that could start today. They need funding. President could fund it now and then bill Michigan later to help compensate for the fact that the Federal Government has played a role in the delay on this situation.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)The fact that there is still no work being done is a crime.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)will have plenty of money to task the rebuilding of Flint, MI by the Corps of Engineers.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)and perhaps some left over to help the sick and educate our children....it does take a village don't it?
tblue37
(65,408 posts)Iraq is because Halliburton and other well connected parasites make tons of money from those contracts.
Besides, since everything built or rebuilt in the places we've turned into permanent war zones will be destroyed as soon as we rebuild it--or even before the work has been completed--Halliburton et al. can keep making more money re-doing the same job.
Fixing US infrastructure is nowhere near as profitable for those who own our government.
rladdi
(581 posts)destruct. Republicans are not about to spend money fixing the lead poison water. They never are charged for criminal actions. The MICH Senate Leader, just said he is in no hurry to allocate any funds to Flint to remove water pipes. And of course, Gov. Snyder said he wanted more time to investigate.
This is a good reason not to give states control, like the GOP wants.
Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Of freeloaders refuse to fix their own plumbing and water supply.
Isn't that the republican and corporate way? Every democrat and progressive should be beating this message loud and clear! No money for the war machine until we take care of those back home. If we can't take care of those back home, what's the purpose of funding "security" and wars when we wont have anyone capable (physically or developmentally) to fight them!
Javaman
(62,530 posts)who electrified the showers.
Logical
(22,457 posts)TBF
(32,067 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)We need to do a lot of work over the entire US. Portland Oregon is now talking about people being poisoned by things like arsenic in the metro area.
I think Flint is the canary in the coal mine, but the coal mine is already filled with toxins.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Was, Shock and Awed, by Corporate Republican Snakes.
That town needs to be made whole by suing the pants off the Governor.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Both Bernie and Hillary deserve credit for calling attention to the plight of Flint residents.
SciDude
(79 posts)that it's just too hard to fix Flint and would cost too much so she will let her banker buddies take over again.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
.whole pallets laden with dollar bills couldn't disappear completely unaccounted for. So we all know why.
10 to 12Billion shrink wrapped $100 dollar bills simply vanished and have never been recovered.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)poof
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Thanks for the heads-up, UglyGreed!
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Bernie!!