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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:10 PM Feb 2016

Hillary is part of the oligarchy and will not change "the Establishment"

Last edited Tue Apr 12, 2016, 10:53 AM - Edit history (1)

This is what Bernie's Campaign is all about.

APRIL 18, 2014
Is America an Oligarchy?
BY JOHN CASSIDY
From the Dept. of Academics Confirming Something You Already Suspected comes a new study concluding that rich people and organizations representing business interests have a powerful grip on U.S. government policy. After examining differences in public opinion across income groups on a wide variety of issues, the political scientists Martin Gilens, of Princeton, and Benjamin Page, of Northwestern, found that the preferences of rich people had a much bigger impact on subsequent policy decisions than the views of middle-income and poor Americans. Indeed, the opinions of lower-income groups, and the interest groups that represent them, appear to have little or no independent impact on policy....
http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/is-america-an-oligarchy




The original study:

Sept 2014 journal "Perspectives on Politics"

Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens
Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page

ABSTRACT
Each of four theoretical traditions in the study of American politics—which can be characterized as theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy, Economic-Elite Domination, and two types of interest-group pluralism, Majoritarian Pluralism and Biased Pluralism—offers different predictions about which sets of actors have how much influence over public policy: average citizens; economic elites; and organized interest groups, mass-based or business-oriented.
A great deal of empirical research speaks to the policy influence of one or another set of actors, but until recently it has not been possible to test these contrasting theoretical predictions against each other within a single statistical model. We report on an effort to do so, using a unique data set that includes measures of the key variables for 1,779 policy issues.
Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.


The last paragraph of their findings:

Despite the seemingly strong empirical support in previous studies for theories of majoritarian democracy, our analyses suggest that majorities of the American public actually have little influence over the policies our government adopts. Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance, such as regular elections, freedom of speech and association, and a wide-spread (if still contested) franchise. But we believe that if policymaking is dominated by powerful business organizations and a small number of affluent Americans, then America’s claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened.
https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

"...America’s claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened."

I don't know if we will get another chance to change things if we wait for them to further consolidate their power. I especially believe that Hillary's court appointees will not be inclined to limit the power of money.
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Hillary is part of the oligarchy and will not change "the Establishment" (Original Post) kristopher Feb 2016 OP
Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer bigtree Feb 2016 #1
Good post noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #2
another No Shit Sherlock moment FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #3
Thank you farleftlib Feb 2016 #4
We missed the biggest window of opportunity in 2008. kristopher Feb 2016 #5

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
2. Good post
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:23 PM
Feb 2016

There are all kinds of pieces that have been written in the last few years that indicate what this piece does. Having read those pieces back then and then watched what was going on in Washington it's pretty easy to see it. Thanks for posting the link.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
4. Thank you
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:46 PM
Feb 2016

for putting that post together so well. That's what we're up against. Even former President Jimmy Carter acknowledged this fact. We need Bernie Sanders to fight for us but we also need to start making more noise than showing up to vote every couple years for the current crop of candidates, R & D, who are already bought and paid for before they get into office.

I also believe we aren't going to get another chance if Bernie doesn't get elected. They're behind closed doors right now doing whatever they can to derail his candidacy and make sure another upstart doesn't come along to inform Americans about the corporate gravy train that passes for government. We need Bernie's revolution.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
5. We missed the biggest window of opportunity in 2008.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:54 PM
Feb 2016

The economic meltdown provided the oligarchy a lever to get them over the failures of Bush.

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