2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumVoters can and should factor in gender in the primaries and general election
On the Democratic side, we have two candidates. They agree on 98% of the issues we care most about. On paper, one candidate is better qualified by every metric, including educational background. That candidate also happens to belong to a gender that has been excluded from the highest office in every election since the country was founded.
According to Gallup, 67% of Americans support affirmative action for women. White men are least likely to support affirmative action. http://www.gallup.com/poll/184772/higher-support-gender-affirmative-action-race.aspx
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Vote for Hillary because she's a woman, but this time with 100% more ridiculous reasoning.
apples and oranges
(1,451 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)But unless you can say Bernie doesn't support it then your point is moot, and really quite ridiculous as reasons to vote for someone.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Centrists love them some sweet, sweet conservative votes and you can bet significant portions of your anatomy that the microsecond Clinton has the nomination she'll sprint right so fast you'll think a bullet train just went by.
You know she's pissed at having the coronation challenged by a bunch of revolting commoners, she'll be dying to teach us a lesson as soon as she gets the chance since that's the way the Clintons operate, and who the hell else are we gonna vote for once she has the nom, eh?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)And no, they don't agree on 98% of the issues.
They are very different on many issues that I care deeply about.
cali
(114,904 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)She has multiple conflicts of interest. Her ethics are lacking. She is far from transparent.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Silly me, thinking it was free stuff.
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)and one of them will have considerably stronger affiliation to Wall Street over the 99%. HIllary dosen't even recognize that there CURRENTLY IS a problem with Wall Street.
catnhatnh
(8,976 posts)to agree with Hillary 98% of the time...
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)- paid maternity leave
- $15 minimum wage
- free public university
- universal single-payer health care, obviously including health care for women and the right to choice
- securing social security
- reducing the chance of devastating economic depressions that hit the poor (majority: women) more than other groups
- possibly having fewer U.S.-engineered massacres of civilian populations abroad (though I don't hold my breath with any candidate)
these are all gender issues - and Sanders is far stronger on all of them.
Now if you'd rather have fewer and lower-paying jobs for women and men, but the symbolic victory of one woman holding a really top job (as she engineers the next set of wars and pushes through the next round of corporate welfare and "trade agreements" , then please vote as you will!
Remember how Thatcher brought about a gender revolution in the UK? Strange, I don't.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and they are veeeeery far apart on issues.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Like Hell they do.
What alternate reality do you live in?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I haven't heard Bernie call for coddling Wall Street and Endless War Everywhere. Did I miss something?
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)...it would only be because Hillary's recently adopted several of Bernie's positions that she didn't agree with before. And I don't trust for one damn minute that she wouldn't change back if she were elected. So, no. Even as a middle-aged female I'll wait for a better female candidate. Thanks anyway.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)who would be best from my children's future..........
jillan
(39,451 posts)dropping out of the race!!
What was I thinking supporting a man?!
mak3cats
(1,573 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)And ridiculous.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I support the candidate that best represents my view of sound and thoughtful public policy and no other considerations play a part.