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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:07 PM Feb 2016

Sanders opens up leads in Alaska +14%; Maine +15%; Massachusetts +7%; Vermont +76% (WOW - 76%!)

Alaska = Sanders 48%; Clinton 34%

Maine = Sanders 56%; Clinton 41%

Massachusetts = Sanders 49%; Clinton 42%

Vermont = Sanders 86%; Clinton 10%

In addition, there are lots of within the margin-of-error ties and other great signs of progress in Arkansas (wow - Clinton's home state is in play!), Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming, with more and more states to be added to the battleground list by the day!

This is exciting!
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Sanders opens up leads in Alaska +14%; Maine +15%; Massachusetts +7%; Vermont +76% (WOW - 76%!) (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Feb 2016 #1
If you'd like to run with that, then we'll also be talking about Clinton not getting 100% in NY. nt jeff47 Feb 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Feb 2016 #10
Why aren't his numbers higher than ****86%***???? gcomeau Feb 2016 #16
Is Clinton hated in NY? jeff47 Feb 2016 #25
We have our reasons..... daleanime Feb 2016 #56
On Wall Street, no, she's much loved; elsewhere in NY, she's not nearly as popular. Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #57
he's had double digits in Alaska for over a month given the last polling. :D roguevalley Feb 2016 #66
My lifelong Dem, upper West Side dtr. calls her the carpetbagger.. Divernan Feb 2016 #67
Really? Never been to New York? aquart Feb 2016 #145
If only you could celebrate Bernie without the attacks of Hillary... randys1 Feb 2016 #103
It's nice of you to show up after he deleted his attack post. jeff47 Feb 2016 #134
Bernie Sanders Emerging In Some States JGug1 Feb 2016 #163
You do know how absurd that sounds... right? kenfrequed Feb 2016 #18
The post was self deleted,mhow silly was it? Nt Logical Feb 2016 #54
He was claiming it was awful Sanders wasn't polling at 100%. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #58
You can tell they are getting worried more every day! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #63
Bernie does poll at 100% Mnpaul Feb 2016 #142
86%? You sneer at 86%? ebayfool Feb 2016 #20
They don't make me angry anymore - they now only induce laughter. reformist2 Feb 2016 #38
And then cowardly delete the posts so others can't see how bad they look! ebayfool Feb 2016 #52
Interesting Sheepshank Feb 2016 #99
Dunno, I didn't see what was deleted. This one I did. n/t ebayfool Feb 2016 #101
So where does Senator Sanders live? George II Feb 2016 #75
Vermont. Where does Secretary Clinton live? frylock Feb 2016 #78
Vermont. Is there a point you wish to make? n/t ebayfool Feb 2016 #81
Point? "Vermont +76% (WOW - 76%!)" George II Feb 2016 #96
Yes - Sanders 86%; Clinton 10% = 76% lead ebayfool Feb 2016 #98
No, look again. You responded to me. George II Feb 2016 #108
I think we gots a 'chain of custody' reply problem! ebayfool Feb 2016 #141
Chances are it will be well over twice that cali Feb 2016 #118
He lives in Vermont were he has either been… tex-wyo-dem Feb 2016 #92
Sounds like my kind of candidate! Kittycat Feb 2016 #106
Where did Bill Clinton live? Helen Borg Feb 2016 #149
There are two big pieces of news in New York. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #28
I'm looking forward to Cuomo campaigning for her in NY. wavesofeuphoria Feb 2016 #122
Uh. New York votes blue in the presidential. aquart Feb 2016 #146
Clinton will be accused of fraud if Sanders doesn't make 100% KingFlorez Feb 2016 #33
Make sure you have plenty of food and water.... daleanime Feb 2016 #60
Thanks for the laughs!! reformist2 Feb 2016 #35
Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #43
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #3
PPP's last NH poll: Clinton 47, Sanders 44. jeff47 Feb 2016 #6
Bingo! kenfrequed Feb 2016 #24
PPP ... Trajan Feb 2016 #112
Just as I suspected. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #117
I may need to pull that back ... Trajan Feb 2016 #121
It's fun to say it anyway. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #139
Hah ... Not as fun as nailing them for the real bought and paid for polling Trajan Feb 2016 #144
this alone should disequalife PPP Robbins Feb 2016 #29
Maybe their MOE was 25 points LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #158
Superdelegates do not count until the convention - sorry. jillan Feb 2016 #12
You can keep going with that if you like. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #22
Pft we will know after Saturday's poll what percent of a chance Bernie has to win. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #26
Hill is UNELECTABLE. She is viewed as the most dishonest candidate in either party cali Feb 2016 #17
Sorry, but it's complete horseshit that she's more dishonest than Donald effing Trump. nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #42
Not according to polls cali Feb 2016 #47
oops, misread your post, didn't see the "is seen as "--apologies nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #49
she's 'more honest than f*ing Trump' ... you do know how bad that sounds, right? roguevalley Feb 2016 #68
I agree with geek tragedy. greymouse Feb 2016 #79
Since... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #159
He's up in Arizona too. They reported it on the local news but I have not found the link - yet. jillan Feb 2016 #5
I'm not sure it makes any sense to still consider SheilaT Feb 2016 #7
Wow. CentralMass Feb 2016 #8
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #9
"But Clinton leads in 10 of the 12 states that vote on March 1....." brooklynite Feb 2016 #11
Clinton is dropping while Sanders is rising in those states, and Sanders has time to flip many more! Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #14
I think that the reason she leads until voting is because of the vast ocean of people who don't have roguevalley Feb 2016 #70
You've got mail! Kittycat Feb 2016 #110
I just showed my 9yo that Paulie Feb 2016 #130
Lol. I did the same! Kittycat Feb 2016 #131
I powered up my TI-99/4a circa 1983 a couple months ago Paulie Feb 2016 #132
+1 Kittycat Feb 2016 #133
You might enjoy this: beac Feb 2016 #156
Oh gawd, my 90 yr old parents still have AOL Oilwellian Feb 2016 #123
I convinced my 82 year old mother a few years ago to dump AOL. neverforget Feb 2016 #136
She will not win 10 of the 12. morningfog Feb 2016 #30
More like ignored KingFlorez Feb 2016 #31
PPP (a robo-call pollster that has about a 10% pro-Clinton in-house effect) polled only 12 of 14 Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #55
I can't say for certain, but I thought I read somewhere... mak3cats Feb 2016 #128
I have been assured by wiser minds that Bernie doesn't have the money to compete LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #160
So, I have a question . . Mike__M Feb 2016 #13
Heh...since hers is nonexistent, nope! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #44
Yes, at least as portable as the goal posts HRC is using. dchill Feb 2016 #157
ERHMAGHERD SEVENTY-SIX PERCENT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Tarc Feb 2016 #19
Sanders is winning his home 87% to 10%; Hillary was ahead just 47% to 42% in December in her home! Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #40
Well, obviously he's well-known in Vermont, so I'd say that huge swing must winter is coming Feb 2016 #53
FWIW - she has more of the VT superdelegates than he does. 4 to 2 with 3 uncommitted. :) Lucinda Feb 2016 #64
if she tries the super delegate route to circumvent the will of the people she will be very roguevalley Feb 2016 #72
Our primaries use a delegate system to determine our nominee. The one with the most wins. Lucinda Feb 2016 #84
super delegates were designed to end insurgent candidates. I have loathed the system since forever. roguevalley Feb 2016 #91
I pretty much agree. I think we could easily go one person one vote. I'm not sure that the reasons Lucinda Feb 2016 #94
I agree. secondwind Feb 2016 #93
How many did she have in 2008? frylock Feb 2016 #83
Buying lobbyists super delegates for the nomination, yeah sounds like a Hillary move. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #85
She isn't buying anyone. That whole attempt at a smear is beyond silly. Lucinda Feb 2016 #87
Un-democratic Steven.kelly9850 Feb 2016 #125
I've been in the party long enough to know... Oilwellian Feb 2016 #126
No truer words were ever spoken. urbuddha Feb 2016 #152
You're right, it shows that the more people know Bernie, the more they like him. corkhead Feb 2016 #107
If the Vermont numbers play out, Clinton leaves with NO delegates from that state. eom Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #21
Senators from Maine and Mass. have not yet endorsed either Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #23
The Maine senators are Independent and Republican. Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2016 #181
Senator King votes and caucuses with the Dems Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #182
Yes, that is true Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2016 #185
Great news. Go for the delegate shut out in Vermont! Hope he holds that 86% +. morningfog Feb 2016 #27
AK, ME care about hunting. I think Bernie's reasonable stance on hunting rifles is helping him there thereismore Feb 2016 #32
Clinton 10% Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #34
Why did you do that? PonyUp Feb 2016 #39
Why not? Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #41
Where are you getting some of those polls from as being close? book_worm Feb 2016 #36
I can't see Hillary not winning by 75% in Arkansas especially with the women. The women I knew in LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #114
where does the OP mention Arkansas? nt magical thyme Feb 2016 #127
He's down 2 points in Wisconsin. 45/43. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #37
Wisconsin is well within the margin of error with Clinton dropping like a rock as Sanders is soaring Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #46
I've been saying for a while now Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #45
State Education Ranking Shows Vermont #1, South Carolina Last SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #48
Just because you keep saying that over and over again doesn't make it true. blue neen Feb 2016 #138
In short: Hillary is toast! Helen Borg Feb 2016 #50
Don't be fooled angrychair Feb 2016 #51
Hillary seems to do the best in the old Confederate states. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #59
I think they are probably looking at results on how she did in 2008 against a black man. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #115
I agree; the youth vote is crucial. n/t TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #119
I think the kids know that this is their shot at fixing some stuff. It is just so right that LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #120
Jury results, I was one of those who didn't comment. merrily Feb 2016 #154
I'm from the south, so I can speak from first hand experience. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #170
K & R! SoapBox Feb 2016 #61
Too bad for Senator Sanders most of America looks nothing like any of those states. DCBob Feb 2016 #62
Forget something there..? pkdu Feb 2016 #65
Sanders looks strong in 5 of 14 Super Tuesday states. He looks strong in 4 of 6 states a week later, Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #69
"Looks Strong"...what does that actually mean? nt pkdu Feb 2016 #71
Winning. Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #77
Not according to 538 Politics , not even close, ....what source(s) are you using? pkdu Feb 2016 #88
The same way he "looked strong" before IW, NH, Nyan Feb 2016 #137
See post #88 pkdu Feb 2016 #147
on land line polls roguevalley Feb 2016 #74
Impressive, anything south of Springfield MA? George II Feb 2016 #73
The list of battleground states DOES grow because Hillary is free falling as Sanders' support grows Vote2016 Feb 2016 #89
.. mcar Feb 2016 #95
Go, Bernie GO!! AzDar Feb 2016 #76
I'm not real religious but Merryland Feb 2016 #80
Hillary is counting on winning the primary by winning states who have no intention... lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #82
Holy smokes! blackspade Feb 2016 #86
where are you getting your data from? lz103 Feb 2016 #90
The source links are embedded in the post. Click the state names for sources. PoliticalMalcontent Feb 2016 #100
Thank you!!! lz103 Feb 2016 #104
Sanders far outpaces Clinton in gen. election (RealClearPolitics) iwannaknow Feb 2016 #97
Awesome! trillion Feb 2016 #102
Sanders will win Indiana (prediction) INdemo Feb 2016 #105
WOW !! SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #109
We knew that Vermont was a given, but... I still like to see that difference. :) nt retrowire Feb 2016 #111
Forward! Charge those giants! Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #113
Kicked and recommended! Go, Bernie! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #116
Since New York is Clinton's "home state" jonestonesusa Feb 2016 #124
She is roundly detested in Upstate, which is heavy Republican registration. Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #155
It is exciting and will get even better for Bernie. Duval Feb 2016 #129
I may have been wrong, he might win 5 or 6 states not just 2. n/t OhZone Feb 2016 #135
Alaska doesn't count...we have NO diversity Ken Burch Feb 2016 #140
This is getting more and more exciting. avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #143
This post has 58206 views Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #148
Wow. 17,000 facebook likes and 75,000 views. How does that even happen? Vote2016 Feb 2016 #166
Is this like the most successful DU thread of all time or what? Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #169
Kick and R BeanMusical Feb 2016 #150
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #151
Vermont 86% ? Something wrong - I mean 'right' - with the machines. Not Joe Chi Minh Feb 2016 #153
I thought Bernie was unelectable? napnap Feb 2016 #161
Good job, America. Orsino Feb 2016 #162
AND Colorado! John Poet Feb 2016 #164
Some people dispute this poll, but Predictwise and the state-by-state Morning Consult cross-tabs Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #174
Those are small states, but still good news. lark Feb 2016 #165
The big states generally have proportional delegate allocation so a win in a big state is not a big Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #186
my hope is up too.... kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #167
This thread has over 76,000 views Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #168
Cool! Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #171
What happens if it gets 100,000? Will it roll back to 0 like an old odometer? Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #172
Good question. Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #173
It went over 100,000. Nothing broke! DU still running. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #178
Good to know (I was getting curious how it would report) Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #179
kicking amborin Feb 2016 #175
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Feb 2016 #176
Add Nevada (+2%) and Colorado to the list of states where Sanders has opened up a lead! Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #177
good news! nt kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #180
27,000 likes and 105,000 views. That's inconceivable (and, yes, I do know what that word means) Vote2016 Feb 2016 #183
lol Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #184
Damn, how'd I miss this thread? K&R! SMC22307 Feb 2016 #187

Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
4. If you'd like to run with that, then we'll also be talking about Clinton not getting 100% in NY. nt
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:10 PM
Feb 2016

Response to jeff47 (Reply #4)

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
16. Why aren't his numbers higher than ****86%***????
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:17 PM
Feb 2016

Either that's snark or you need to see a psychologist.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
25. Is Clinton hated in NY?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:19 PM
Feb 2016

Again, this is a comparison you do not want to emphasize. 86% is beloved in a political context. And your candidate looks very, very, lacking in her state by comparison.

But please, go ahead and keep going. That way we can start asking questions like "Why do NY voters not like Clinton?"

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
66. he's had double digits in Alaska for over a month given the last polling. :D
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:29 PM
Feb 2016

The largest pool of voters are independents so they aren't tied to a party for loyalty issues

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
134. It's nice of you to show up after he deleted his attack post.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:28 PM
Feb 2016

That way, you can maximize your superiority to us mere mortals that actually read his post.

JGug1

(320 posts)
163. Bernie Sanders Emerging In Some States
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:18 PM
Feb 2016

I hate to rain on your parade but Nate Silver is not yet predicting Mass because it hasn't been polled enough but he sure sheds light on other states: Clinton's chances in.....
Nevada: 74%
SC..........: >99%
Georgia.......: 79%
OK..............:81%
Tenn...........: 99%
Texas.......... 9%
Virginia........ 8%
Michigan....... 5%
NC...................: 98%


I suspect that in the end, Bernie Sanders' major contribution to what most of us here stand for is going to be to push Hillary Clinton to the left.
I have NO idea ow or why those smiley faces are on where 9's were written and I cannot get them off. They were not intended by me. My intention was to report facts, not demonstrate support of opposition to either candidate here.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
18. You do know how absurd that sounds... right?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:18 PM
Feb 2016

I mean seriously... do you honestly imagine any candidate gets 100% in a contested primary at any time?

That sort of hyperbole just makes you look silly.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
52. And then cowardly delete the posts so others can't see how bad they look!
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:51 PM
Feb 2016

So I want to just put it here that the posts mocked Sanders for not getting 100% (rather than the 86% he did get!). Twice. Double down, delete, then bow out. Probably running from a time-out.

George II

(67,782 posts)
96. Point? "Vermont +76% (WOW - 76%!)"
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:16 PM
Feb 2016

That's a surprise?

And before one of you ask where Clinton lives, she lives in New York, where the electorate in the Bronx is bigger than the entire state of Vermont.

Chances are he'll pull in a whopping 100,000 votes state-wide in Vermont.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
98. Yes - Sanders 86%; Clinton 10% = 76% lead
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:25 PM
Feb 2016

The poster I responded to was the one expressing surprise.

And you sneer at an entire state. Again, no surprise.

George II

(67,782 posts)
108. No, look again. You responded to me.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:50 PM
Feb 2016

I'm not sneering at any state, I'm just putting the poll results from Vermont into perspective.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
141. I think we gots a 'chain of custody' reply problem!
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:35 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:40 AM - Edit history (1)

The poster I responded to initially was the one expressing surprise. MohRokTah (Reply #1)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511265952#post1
Who then deleted instead of responding

You asked a question
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511265952#post20

I answered
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511265952#post75

You responded
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511265952#post81

and on ...

So yes, I've looked again.
And yes, I responded to you. As you did to me.

And yes, what you call perspective - I call sneering. You were puckish about an entire state's value.

I'm sure YMMV.

And then I had to go to work, thread interruptus!


tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
92. He lives in Vermont were he has either been…
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:09 PM
Feb 2016

A mayor of the largest city in the state, a congressman or a senator for decades. So to get 86% support means that he must be doing a pretty damn good job for his constituents

Uncle Joe

(58,366 posts)
28. There are two big pieces of news in New York.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:21 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary only leads Bernie by 21% and Bernie is stronger against Republicans in New York than Hillary.



Loudonville, NY. Hillary Clinton, who has a better favorability rating than Bernie Sanders among Democrats
but a weaker favorability rating among all voters, leads Sanders 55-34 percent in a head-to-head matchup with
New York Democrats.
On the Republican side, Donald Trump has the support of 34 percent of New York
GOPers, while Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz each have the support of 16 percent and Chris Christie is the only
other Republican in double digits with 11 percent support, according to a new Siena College poll of New York
State registered voters released today.

Clinton leads six leading Republicans by between
17 and 26 points, while Sanders runs up even bigger
leads of between 22 and 33 points.
Almost half of
New Yorkers – including nearly two-thirds of
Democrats – think Clinton will be the next President.
Jobs (42 percent) and keeping America safe
(30 percent) are the top issues.
“Hillary, with a small uptick in her favorability rating
since September, has a solid 21-point lead over
Bernie with Democrats, despite a significant increase
in his favorability rating,” said Siena College pollster
Steven Greenberg. “Sanders has a net 13-point better
favorability rating with all voters than Clinton, while she has a net nine-point better rating among Democrats,”



http://files.ctctcdn.com/9c83fb30501/9e02460e-4bda-4afc-adcd-9330137f842d.pdf

wavesofeuphoria

(525 posts)
122. I'm looking forward to Cuomo campaigning for her in NY.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:58 PM
Feb 2016

He has his own establishment corruption trouble. He's really not that beloved in NY.

Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
6. PPP's last NH poll: Clinton 47, Sanders 44.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:11 PM
Feb 2016

You should probably not be counting on their polling quite so much.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
24. Bingo!
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:19 PM
Feb 2016

PPP also had her leading by 8 points in Iowa.

PPP seems absolutely terrible at doing primary race polls.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
121. I may need to pull that back ...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:49 PM
Feb 2016

I know I've searched before and found the connection, but I'm not finding it now ...

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
144. Hah ... Not as fun as nailing them for the real bought and paid for polling
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 02:55 AM
Feb 2016

I'll find it another time ....have an awesome night

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
29. this alone should disequalife PPP
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:21 PM
Feb 2016

they had clinton up by 3 and bernie won by 22.they are joke.plus they are being paid by david brock's correct the record.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
15. You can keep going with that if you like.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:16 PM
Feb 2016

It's not an argument most people are going to buy though after he wins in Nevada and comes close to a tie in South Carolina. Hillary must win that state by at least 20%.

Response to Kalidurga (Reply #15)

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
26. Pft we will know after Saturday's poll what percent of a chance Bernie has to win.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:20 PM
Feb 2016

And Hillary can't just comfortably win in Nevada she has to win by a very very large margin.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. Hill is UNELECTABLE. She is viewed as the most dishonest candidate in either party
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:17 PM
Feb 2016

She is the best GOTV tool for repukes imaginable. And sorry, but hilly's superdelegates are unplugged. Young people and independents won't vote for her. Americans are sick of the Clintons.

greymouse

(872 posts)
79. I agree with geek tragedy.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:47 PM
Feb 2016

I have nothing good to say about Hillary, but in a dishonesty contest, I am not sure whether she or Trump would come in first.

DUbeornot2be

(367 posts)
159. Since...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:02 AM
Feb 2016

...dishonesty is an either or type of thing... I don't think comparing levels will help her much...

Yes... She is dishonest!!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
7. I'm not sure it makes any sense to still consider
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:11 PM
Feb 2016

Arkansas a "home state" for Hillary. She didn't grow up there, although she did live there for a number of years and was first lady of the state. But she moved away nearly a quarter century ago, and I'd guess that a lot of voters, especially younger ones, don't feel much of a connection to her and are going to vote the way they would if she'd never lived there.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
70. I think that the reason she leads until voting is because of the vast ocean of people who don't have
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:34 PM
Feb 2016

a landline and live on their cell phones. No one can discount bernie winning it all because those voters aren't polled and they skew to him. Hillary's idea of an outreach to younger voters is to go to AOL.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
130. I just showed my 9yo that
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:06 PM
Feb 2016

She's like "What? What is that!?!?" I had to explain that's how we connected to the Internet, and we had no video or iPads either.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
131. Lol. I did the same!
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

Mine turns 9 this weekend. He asked what the weird sound was. I said basically the same. He thought it was funny. I wonder what he would have thought about Apple II's?

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
132. I powered up my TI-99/4a circa 1983 a couple months ago
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:20 PM
Feb 2016

Plugged in the Star Trek cartridge and speech synth and she was like "this is so boring!"

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
123. Oh gawd, my 90 yr old parents still have AOL
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:05 PM
Feb 2016

Never could convince them to use the free browsers available today.

It seems the more people learn about Bernie, the higher his poll numbers go. The momentum is definitely in his favor.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
136. I convinced my 82 year old mother a few years ago to dump AOL.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:39 PM
Feb 2016

It took awhile but I did it.

Oh yeah, she's a Bernie supporter!

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
30. She will not win 10 of the 12.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:21 PM
Feb 2016

Of course, you folks were telling us Bernie would not even make it to have his home state vote. THen we were told, he'd win only one state.

Now he is leading in many and national polls within 2.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
55. PPP (a robo-call pollster that has about a 10% pro-Clinton in-house effect) polled only 12 of 14
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:01 PM
Feb 2016

Super Tuesday states.

PPP skipped Colorado and Minnesota, and the Morning Consult state-by-state survey polling shows Sanders being ahead in both Colorado and Minnesota.

Also, Oklahoma is within the margin of error with Sanders rising and Clinton plummeting.

Polls are never a substitute for votes, but if you were going to make a guess about Super Tuesday based on the polling and the poll trends, the data looks good for Sanders in Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Oklahoma, and Vermont. Four days later, things look good for Sanders in Kansas (and Nebraska looks like a toss up trending toward Sanders). One day after that (March 6), Sanders looks good in Maine. Two days later, Michigan looks close and trending toward Sanders.

In the next four weeks, you should be prepared for Sanders building on his huge win in New Hampshire with a good chance at wins in Nevada, Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Vermont, Kansas, Nebraska, Maine, Michigan, and maybe a few surprises in addition.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
128. I can't say for certain, but I thought I read somewhere...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:31 PM
Feb 2016

...that some of those 12 states hadn't been polled since last fall sometime. So not a true and current picture.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
160. I have been assured by wiser minds that Bernie doesn't have the money to compete
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 10:08 AM
Feb 2016

with Hillary. So no worries, this is in the bag for Hill.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
44. Heh...since hers is nonexistent, nope!
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:32 PM
Feb 2016


She's going to have a rude awakening on Super Tuesday. It's going to be painful.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

dchill

(38,505 posts)
157. Yes, at least as portable as the goal posts HRC is using.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 09:52 AM
Feb 2016

Her path to the coronation is riddled with post-holes.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
53. Well, obviously he's well-known in Vermont, so I'd say that huge swing must
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

represent a collapse of the "unelectable" meme.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
72. if she tries the super delegate route to circumvent the will of the people she will be very
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:36 PM
Feb 2016

very sorry.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
84. Our primaries use a delegate system to determine our nominee. The one with the most wins.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:52 PM
Feb 2016

It's just that simple.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
91. super delegates were designed to end insurgent candidates. I have loathed the system since forever.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:05 PM
Feb 2016

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
94. I pretty much agree. I think we could easily go one person one vote. I'm not sure that the reasons
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:12 PM
Feb 2016

for all these crazy weighted systems in both the primary and GE are really relevant anymore. I understand the point of trying to balance rural and city issues so some people aren't underserved etc, but there really should be a simpler way to conduct an election.

Until someone gets changes made, we are pretty much stuck with what we have.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
87. She isn't buying anyone. That whole attempt at a smear is beyond silly.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:56 PM
Feb 2016

The Democratic party is in the process of selecting our nominee. One of them has been raising money for the down ticket races, as they both pledged to do. And as far as people squeeling about her supporting the candidacy of some of those supporting her, thats sort of the point of it all. The whole point is to get Dems elected. Are you new to the party?

125. Un-democratic
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:07 PM
Feb 2016

No I am not new but the Democratic party is anything but democratic! ! So she is buying votes, it is perfectly okay with the party, the system is designed to stop people like Bernie Sanders, the head of the party said so. They want more people in the party, they even want them at the convention, but they don't want the establishment candidates to have opposition. This is why the Democratic party has gotten by with being Republican lite.

The question is who is in charge of the party, the Democratic voters or the party leaders. So you are right Hillary Clinton is not doing anything wrong, it's just not democratic! !!!

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
126. I've been in the party long enough to know...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:12 PM
Feb 2016

Super Delegates have never usurped the majority vote. If they try it this time, there will be a Republican in the White House.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
107. You're right, it shows that the more people know Bernie, the more they like him.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:48 PM
Feb 2016

How's Hillary doing in her home state(s). Which state does she count as "home" anyway?

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
181. The Maine senators are Independent and Republican.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 08:15 PM
Feb 2016

They aren't likely to make endorsements for Democratic candidates.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
185. Yes, that is true
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:43 AM
Feb 2016

but he probably won't say anything about the dem primaries since he is not actually apart of the party. I wouldn't expect it. He might endorse the dem candidate for president once the selection has been made.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
32. AK, ME care about hunting. I think Bernie's reasonable stance on hunting rifles is helping him there
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:24 PM
Feb 2016

And it will help him in other rural states.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
36. Where are you getting some of those polls from as being close?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:29 PM
Feb 2016

For instance Arkansas, which you are excited about, the most recent poll has Hillary up by 25. That poll was released yesterday.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
114. I can't see Hillary not winning by 75% in Arkansas especially with the women. The women I knew in
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:12 PM
Feb 2016

2008 were so pissed that a black man won that they would not vote in the general at all.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
45. I've been saying for a while now
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:35 PM
Feb 2016

that I think Bernie would have a much better chance in Alaska against ANY Republican than Hillary would. "Democrat" is kind of a dirty word up here, but we don't have much of a problem with socialism. See, e.g., the Alaska Permanent Fund. Also Alaska's current governor is an Independent who handily defeated his Republican incumbent opponent last year, so there's that. My Alaska FB friends overwhelmingly support Bernie.

blue neen

(12,322 posts)
138. Just because you keep saying that over and over again doesn't make it true.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:24 PM
Feb 2016

"no surprise here - people who can think (Vermont) vote Sanders"

"South Carolina - not so much..."

"and - red state - who cares - it does not matter"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1230048

The undertones of what you continue to imply are not flattering.

TIME TO PANIC

(1,894 posts)
59. Hillary seems to do the best in the old Confederate states.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:04 PM
Feb 2016

You know, the low-info states where slavery is omitted from the textbooks.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
115. I think they are probably looking at results on how she did in 2008 against a black man.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:16 PM
Feb 2016

I really feel this election is about the kids. If they turn out BIG then all bets are off and it is a new game. This is as it should be out is their future that the election is about.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
120. I think the kids know that this is their shot at fixing some stuff. It is just so right that
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:42 PM
Feb 2016

this one really depends on them. It will really tell the old farts like me whether just to shut up and accept life as it is or start jumping for joy as what it might become.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
154. Jury results, I was one of those who didn't comment.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:17 AM
Feb 2016

This is regional bias. Democrats living in the south shouldn't be facing Trump like smears like "low information" on DU.


Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The post is uninformed and indeed a broad-brush smear. However it doesn't warrant a hide, imo. Frankly the poster is the "low-info" voter and should simply be ignored.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Please toughen up.

TIME TO PANIC

(1,894 posts)
170. I'm from the south, so I can speak from first hand experience.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:39 PM
Feb 2016

With all the poverty (thanks to republicans and blue dogs) people don't have access to the information they need. This is the only reason Hillary has a southern 'firewall', and it infuriates me!

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
65. Forget something there..?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:23 PM
Feb 2016

From the Vermont link....But Clinton leads in 10 of the 12 states that vote on March 1.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
69. Sanders looks strong in 5 of 14 Super Tuesday states. He looks strong in 4 of 6 states a week later,
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:33 PM
Feb 2016

and Sanders looks strong in 8 out of 8 states in the stretch from March 22 to April 9!

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
88. Not according to 538 Politics , not even close, ....what source(s) are you using?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:56 PM
Feb 2016

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
137. The same way he "looked strong" before IW, NH,
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:57 PM
Feb 2016

and currently "looks strong" in NV, meaning that Hillary has been losing and Bernie has been gaining support.

George II

(67,782 posts)
73. Impressive, anything south of Springfield MA?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:37 PM
Feb 2016

Other than Alaska (who elected Sarah Palin Governor ) all of those states, and you can throw in New Hampshire too, are no further than 50 miles from Vermont.

I suggest you look at this link to see what the chances are of Sanders winning in all of those other states:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/nevada-democratic/

PS - the "battleground" states are what they are, we don't add them to the list by the day.

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
89. The list of battleground states DOES grow because Hillary is free falling as Sanders' support grows
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:57 PM
Feb 2016

daily so states that were not competitive a month ago are tossups or "lean Sanders" now, and states that "lean Hillary" now will tip toward "lean Sanders" in the coming months.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
82. Hillary is counting on winning the primary by winning states who have no intention...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 05:51 PM
Feb 2016

...of voting D in the general.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
102. Awesome!
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:33 PM
Feb 2016

People are finally waking up to Hillary's super pacs are doing it to continue the corporate stronghold on our laws, and no race is better off with her because of it.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
105. Sanders will win Indiana (prediction)
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:40 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary lost IN in 2008 and 2016 Bernie Sanders will have a strong group of volunteers and staff...

For Democrats there are 92 Delegates (I think winner takes all)

jonestonesusa

(880 posts)
124. Since New York is Clinton's "home state"
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:06 PM
Feb 2016

she should match Bernie's Vermont support, wouldn't you think?

Or not???

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
155. She is roundly detested in Upstate, which is heavy Republican registration.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:41 AM
Feb 2016

She is not popular with Upstate Dems, either. We hunt to put venison in our freezers. Bernie understands that.

Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
153. Vermont 86% ? Something wrong - I mean 'right' - with the machines. Not
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:59 AM
Feb 2016

malfunctioning at all.... Something's badly amiss.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
174. Some people dispute this poll, but Predictwise and the state-by-state Morning Consult cross-tabs
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:30 PM
Feb 2016

also point to an excellent trend in Colorado.

lark

(23,105 posts)
165. Those are small states, but still good news.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:33 PM
Feb 2016

Wonder how he's doing in the biggies, CA, FL, TX, PA, NY, NJ? I haven't seen any poll results for any of these lately, so truly don't know. I'd expect that he's rising everywhere, but don't have any stats to support this feeling.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
186. The big states generally have proportional delegate allocation so a win in a big state is not a big
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:28 PM
Feb 2016

win unless it results in a lopsided delegate allocation.

I suspect that Clinton will do well in ex-Confederate red states and states that share a border with Arkansas. By April 9, Sanders will have erased that early March advantage Clinton will get from the ex-Confederate red states.

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