2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhere is Bernie Sanders' gun control plan?
By Dan Merica, CNNUpdated 2:47 PM ET, Thu February 18, 2016
In response to a series of mass shootings last year, Bernie Sanders said that his campaign was assembling a "comprehensive package" of plans to address gun violence in the United States.
Months later, the insurgent candidate has failed to live up to that pledge.
Sanders' campaign has yet to issue a detailed policy paper on gun control, something the candidate has done for a slew of other economic and core-Democratic issues. And his campaign does not list fighting gun violence on his more than 20-position-long issue page on his website.
Sanders' aides did not respond to multiple requests about why his campaign has not announced a "comprehensive" gun plan as promised.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/politics/bernie-sanders-gun-control/index.html
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I will make a judgement. He has not done very well on gun issues in the past.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)He didn't list racial justice either until after the BLM movement confronted him in Seattle.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)How many more times will this question get asked today?
I'm betting 6 ops minimum.
lasttrip
(1,013 posts)Peace.
LT
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)LOLOLO
Strengthen background checks and close dangerous loopholes in the current system.
Hold irresponsible dealers and manufacturers accountable.
Keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, domestic abusers, other violent criminals, and the severely mentally ill.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Yesterday, Clinton hit Obama for calling Pennsylvanians "bitter," ground on which he fairly ably engaged.
Today, she's onto the other half of his San Francisco remarks, in which he linked economic frustration to clinging to religion and guns (the part he sought to walk back this morning in Muncie, Ind.).
"Sen. Obama's remarks are elitist, and they are out of touch," Clinton said. "The people of faith I know don't 'cling to' religion because they're bitter. ... I also disagree with Sen. Obama's assertion that people in this country 'cling to guns' and have certain attitudes about immigration or trade simply out of frustration. People of all walks of life hunt and they enjoy doing so because it's an important part of their life, not because they are bitter."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/04/hillary-hits-obama-on-faith-guns-007747
But Clinton hasnt always been so forceful in her fight for gun control. As the Post highlights, Clinton has dramatically shifted her tone on gun control since the 2008 campaign. While Clinton touted her husbands record record on gun control (former President Bill Clinton signed into the law an assault weapons ban that has since lapsed) she also heralded personal memories of learning to shoot with her father and defend gun ownership, saying, there is not a contradiction between protecting Second Amendment rights and the effort to reduce crime.
You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl, Clinton said while campaigning ahead of the Indiana primary, where white working class Democrats propelled her to a narrow victory over then-Sen. Barack Obama. You know, some people now continue to teach their children and their grandchildren. Its part of culture. Its part of a way of life. People enjoy hunting and shooting because its an important part of who they are. Not because they are bitter, she continued, in a dig at Obamas remark at a fundraiser that disenfranchised Americans often cling to cultural symbols like guns and religion.
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/10/hillary_clinton_goes_bold_on_gun_safety_but_she_sounded_a_different_note_in_2008/
WAUSAU, WIS. -- At a campaign stop this afternoon, Hillary Clinton's focus was on the economy and health care but some in the crowd had other things on their minds. Clinton was asked to discuss gun control which prompted Clinton to talk about her days holding a rifle in the cold, shallow waters in backwoods Arkansas.
"I've hunted. My father taught me how to hunt. I went duck hunting in Arkansas. I remember standing in that cold water, so cold, at first light. I was with a bunch of my friends, all men. The sun's up, the ducks are flying and they are playing a trick on me. They said, 'we're not going to shoot, you shoot.' They wanted to embarrass me. The pressure was on. So I shot, and I shot a banded duck and they were surprised as I was," Clinton said drawing laughter from the crowd.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clintons-hunting-history/
Q: Do you support the DC handgun ban?
A: I want to give local communities the authority over determining how to keep their citizens safe. This case youre referring to is before the Supreme Court.
Q: But what do you support?
A: I support sensible regulation that is consistent with the constitutional right to own and bear arms.
Q: Is the DC ban consistent with that right?
A: I think a total ban, with no exceptions under any circumstances, might be found by the court not to be. But DC or anybody else [should be able to] come up with sensible regulations to protect their people.
Q: But do you still favor licensing and registration of handguns?
A: What I favor is what works in NY. We have one set of rules in NYC and a totally different set of rules in the rest of the state. What might work in NYC is certainly not going to work in Montana. So, for the federal government to be having any kind of blanket rules that theyre going to try to impose, I think doesnt make sense.
Source: 2008 Philadelphia primary debate, on eve of PA primary , Apr 16, 2008
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Gun_Control.htm
jillan
(39,451 posts)OR if you prefer - it's right here
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bernie_Sanders_Gun_Control.htm
Next kitchen sink?
senz
(11,945 posts)Now, if they would read ...
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)In fact, those aren't even his websites.
If you look at Bernie's official issues page at his website, there's nothing specific to gun control:
https://berniesanders.com/issues/
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)You sure?
You do realize those aren't even his websites, right?
Where is his plan that he promised to release months ago?
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)then I'm feeling pretty good about things.
You do know he has it all spelled out on his webpage just like Clinton does.
Pretty soon you are going to be resorting to "What's his stand on the economy?"
jillan
(39,451 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I checked the issues page and didn't see anything.
Is it somewhere else on his website?
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Which is pretty consistent with what he has said in the debates.
http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-gun-policy/
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Bernie promised a comprehensive gun control plan months ago and it was never released.
In fact, I don't see anything on his issues page related to the issue of gun control.