How Bernie Sanders Could Actually Pull Off an Upset in South Carolina

[thereismore]

http://inthesetimes.com/article/18780/can-bernie-sanders-sell-socialism-in-south-carolina


“Most Democrats don’t so much support us as much as they try to persuade us to believe they will,” Auerbach continues. “Bernie doesn’t just talk the talk, he walks the walk, joining the picket lines.”

But there are also working-class voters who have dropped out of politics, disillusioned with conservative Democrats as well as with right-wing Republicans. White working-class voters have among the lowest voting rates of any group. South Carolina Federation of Labor President Emeritus Donna DeWitt says that many of these drop-outs have emerged to work for Sanders.



“Sanders could say to the white worker, ‘Of course, you’re being screwed, and let’s talk about it, but let’s understand when the black workers talk about inequality, they’re not trying to take something from you— they just want not to be treated differently,’ ” Fletcher says. “Sanders’ message should not be that all are being screwed, but all are being held in different parts of the Titanic, some in steerage and some in first class.”

[daleanime]

1. K&R.....

[Gregorian]

2. I guess he was serious when he said he was in this to win.

[thesquanderer]

3. Good article. Some key bits...

Hillary Clinton, for her part, has some big chits in the primary game: She is well known in South Carolina and benefits from residual affection for Bill Clinton among African-American voters, despite the harm done by his policies on welfare, mandatory sentencing, NAFTA and other issues. Pragmatism also works in her favor: Black voters lean strongly Democratic and have plenty of reason to worry about a Republican in the White House.

As I walked around a largely black, low-income neighborhood of North Charleston, the people I talked with were consistently pro-Clinton and admitted not knowing much about Sanders. But the commitment often seemed shallow. “I’d go with Hillary Clinton,” says a 63-year-old man who supports himself with Social Security disability payments, “because she’s going to be the damned president.”
...
“People have no idea of who he is,” says Christale Spain. “That’s the obstacle here in South Carolina. Once [they] spend 10 minutes finding out what he’s done, they’ve completely turned our way. Now we’re making inroads.”
...
South Carolina Democratic state Rep. Terry Alexander, a prominent African American minister and former Clinton supporter, is a high-profile convert to Sanders. “I like Sanders,” he says. “He’s very approachable, a good old country boy from up the road. [Clinton] is running more on her name than on what are the best policies. What’s she done for African Americans?” To people concerned about Sanders’ socialism, Alexander responds that the term simply means a government that actively pursues “what’s good for the people.”

[klook]

15. Encouraging. "a good old country boy from up the road" :)

I still don't see Bernie winning this primary (hope I'm wrong about that). But closing the gap further would be impressive.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511231973

[asuhornets]

4. In your dreams...

[roguevalley]

8. we're allowed to have dreams because we're supporting Bernie. You on the other hand ...

enjoy your chains.

[SCantiGOP]

16. Enjoy your chains?

Enjoy your hyperbole?

I do expect Sanders to close the gap here in SC but Clinton will get 2/3 of the AA vote which is a majority of the overall Dem vote.

[cannabis_flower]

17. I think he was referring to this

Hillary Clinton has Goldman Handcuffs. Yes, that's how they talk about her at Goldman Sachs.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511257052

[Stuckinthebush]

14. Unicorn dreams?

[asuhornets]

18. Yes I think so...

[INdemo]

20. Was Iowa and NH a dream?

[Stuckinthebush]

22. Keep holding onto that

You'll need it

[INdemo]

25. we'll see...If Bernie Sanders win NV and Hillary wins SC (and ait will not be a blow out)

Bernie Sanders still has momentum. Look at the Super Tues. states and the polling....Hillary will not run the table and they could come out of those states virtually tied with delegates...Forget the super delegates if Bernie wins the delegates from the primary DWS and Hillary will be in for one hell of a fight to try and take the nomination away ..and I'm not dreaming because Hillary is not organized in the Super Tuesday States to do what the corporate media is saying she will do.

After
Super Tuesday Bernie Sanders is leading in many of the Mid March, April states...

[KingFlorez]

24. Pipe dreams

[noiretextatique]

29. clinton will ramp up racist dog whistles

Bernie will pick up som AA votes.

[asuhornets]

31. If he has not yet;then he won't..

he was here in Atlanta at Morehouse College-a black college.his audience was majority white people at a black college.. can u explain that?

[noiretextatique]

32. bullshit

There was a line of black people too. Too bad too many Clinton supporters share her worst qualities. I am going to save this post so you can eat these words.

[asuhornets]

33. Did you see the photos and the video inside of the building? n/t

[noiretextatique]

36. yes...and i saw the line of black students to get in

how many black people were at hillary's latest wall street fundraiser?

[KingFlorez]

34. That wouldn't benefit her

Considering that she is leading by over 40% with black voters and they make up most of the electorate, dog whistle would do much to help her.

[noiretextatique]

37. it did not stop her in 2008

but maybe she had written-off the black vote.

[thereismore]

5. It is shaping up to me like Sanders is building an FDR-like coalition that crosses racial divisions.

[1StrongBlackMan]

21. "Sanders is building an FDR-like coalition that crosses racial divisions" ...

Are not suggesting that FDR had a coalition that cut across racial lines?

But beyond that, it was not a "coalition" that made for FDR's success ... it was a brutal national depression, along with super-majorities in both the House and Senate, and a largely, compliant opposition party, and a petrified Supreme Court ... none of which Sanders has, or can put together.

[thereismore]

26. What I meant is, his coalition is driven by class rather than race. The economic situation you

mentioned does have some recent parallels, which makes my point stronger. Not the same thing of course.

[Uncle Joe]

6. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, thereismore.

[SheenaR]

7. This

South Carolina Democratic state Rep. Terry Alexander, a prominent African American minister and former Clinton supporter, is a high-profile convert to Sanders. “.... What’s she done for African Americans?”

This is the story of the campaign that I cannot figure out. What has she done. Every article I read about support in the South is based largely on familiarity and name recognition.

What has she done. Terry Alexander is damn right.

[thereismore]

9. Right. She has nowhere to go but down. nt

[WillyT]

10. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[Kip Humphrey]

11. We are ALL on the Titanic and only Bernie Sanders is telling us to turn the ship around.

[TIME TO PANIC]

12. K & R!

[Enthusiast]

13. Kicked and recommended! Please let it happen!

[INdemo]

19. What does a win in Nev and a win in SC do for Bernie?

and what will it do for Hillary.Of course if this happens the networks will play it down as .".Super Tuesday is the only ones that count believing Hillary will run the table."

[Rocky the Leprechaun]

38. Then they'll move the goalposts to June...

while Bernie wins states after states, and the delegate numbers grows every day, with superdelegates switching after realizing what a fool's errand it is to support a losing candidate that has gone 100% negative on Bernie, and they're ineffective.

[stage left]

23. K&R

Let it be.

[noretreatnosurrender]

27. Great Piece

Very uplifting. I encourage everyone to read the entire piece. It's pretty long but there are all kinds of varied voices making comments about Sanders. Well worth the read.

[workinclasszero]

28. Whistlin past the graveyard

[noretreatnosurrender]

30. Walkiing a Tightrope

This was another good passage.

Willie Legette, professor of political science at South Carolina State University, thinks Sanders is right to pitch his message about inequality broadly: “If you’re a white worker getting your ass kicked every day, you’re not impressed with talk about white privilege. When white workers hear the Democratic Party talking about inequality, they think of it as talking about people of color, and they don’t see themselves as beneficiaries.” What’s key, he says, is that Sanders “continue his grand message about inequality” while specifically highlighting both white and black workers, “as opposed to only talking about people of color.”

[MisterP]

35. yeah, the Sanders campaign goes right to the heart of how race is used to divide

the Marcottes and Valentis and Dunhams and a host of online flacks just exploit it, whooping it up as the uncouth white working class gets what's finally coming to it

race isn't an issue, it's a button to push to get some poker chips