2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Superdelegates Won't Feel the Bern
When Hillary got a boost from superdelegates in Iowa, a hue and cry went up from the bowels of Bernie-dom, mostly from his young supporters, that this was the Democratic Party thwarting the Will of The People. However, when Obama pursued a vigorous superdelegate strategy in 2008, there was no hue and cry from the under 30 crowd. Like most political issues, it's a scandal if it doesn't go your way, and just the way things work if it's helping your candidate. But the superdelegate bashing is likely to commence again after Nevada, a caucus state where even if Bernie wins the caucus, there are still superdelegates who, in a close race, might make the difference for Hillary in the all important delegate count. For make no mistake about it, this is a fight for a political party nomination, and the Democratic Party has made the rules thus and so for a reason.
Superdelegates are folks who automatically go to the Democratic Party nominating convention as a reward for service to the Democratic Party. They are largely Democrats serving in elected office in their states, and elected Party officials. These people are not the enemy of progressive causes. These people are the backbone of the Democratic Party, and without them, the party would wither away. And none of them owes a thing to Bernie Sanders; Bernie Sanders has never done a thing to earn their votes. In fact, just the opposite. Bernie's entire career has been a poke in the eye to the Democratic Party. So do not be surprised if he does not walk away with the vote of a single superdelegate. It won't be because of any conspiracy. It will be because Bernie Sanders has not only never been a Democrat, he's shown open contempt for Democrats for a long time.
Let's stop a minute and remember what makes a political party work. It's not a Facebook page or a website. It's human beings who give up their precious free time on nights and weekends to do the grunt work of local democracy. They are the precinct captains who go door-to-door for politicians further down on the political food chain. They organize fundraisers for candidates from State Rep to County Commissioner to School Board. When the party needs somebody to run against a strong Republican incumbent in a Republican district, they are the people who recruit candidates for these political suicide missions, and they are often the people who end up running, trying to get the message out with no money, while they have to keep their day jobs as teachers or farmers or day care providers.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/monica-bauer/superdelegates-bernie-sanders_b_9263352.html
daleanime
(17,796 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/17/1486673/-When-Lobbyist-Become-Superdelegates
The list contains lobbyists for Keystone XL, private prison group Geo, American Council of Life Insurers, News Corp (yeah, them, as in Fox News), Enron, Countrywide, U.S. Telecom Association, Coca-Cola, CitiGroup and others.
We wonder why this study found that, The opinions of 90% of Americans have essentially no impact at all. When we vote, we are not just voting for a candidate, but for a network of relationships which will be brought to bear on the governance of the country. It is determines who gets access, how agencies are staffed and, as the study shows, what actually gets done.
Somehow, I dont think the folks listed in this article have my interests or the interests of anyone below the 1% in mind. Perhaps some crumbs to keep us in line.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)I don't think I've seen that one yet.
mgmaggiemg
(869 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Going to change during this election. Actually Sanders has worked in Congress much longer than Sanders and he had much more time to have established relationships with Democratic congressional members.
frylock
(34,825 posts)I dare them.
djean111
(14,255 posts)That which determines a lot of our lives is just really a system of money and paybacks.
Amazing that we get to vote at all, innit? Must really rankle some candidates, methinks.
I don't profess to really know how Bernie feels about Democrats, especially since he is running as one in order to not split the vote. But, and this has been building for a while now - I live in Florida - I am starting to feel disenfranchised, excluded, and disgusted. Bill and Rahm are wrong, you know - sooner or later, we will have somewhere else to go.
Im done being taken for granted. They're not even pretending to give a shit about people any more.
cali
(114,904 posts)Had Bernie run as an independent, this woman and virtually every other dem would be screaming Nader! Spoiler! over and over.
They'd be right.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)If the popular vote swings one way and the super delegates nominate someone else, the party will be fractured like never before. Our nominee will go to the general election as illegitimate. It will be 24/7 media fodder about our nonDemocratic Party. We'll get wiped out and the GOP will take power.
The super delegates surely aren't dumb enough to cause the suicide of the Democratic Party. One would hope.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)There really isn't a good reason for the super-delegate system. It has grown worse with the increasing number of lobbyists that have slitered into the party as superdelegates. The only real solution is to get rid of the whole thing.
I am planning on putting forth a resolution at my caucus to do away with superdelegates on both the state and federal level.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)They never were part of the party, yet want to run everything.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Never really happened.
What rubbish this article is.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)This is the Democratic Party made up of Democrats and Democrats should decide their Party's standard-bearer. Further, the wishes of the 99% of Democratic officeholders who support Clinton should be considered and respected since they have to run on the same ticket. Nothing stopping the many independents on this board or otherwise voting for whatever party or candidate they wish
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Our superdelegates are bunch of Rockefeller Republicans who don't want there cushy meals at the 0.1%'s feeding trough disturbed.