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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:27 PM Feb 2016

If you belittle Bernie's revolution, you are working against any change at all.

You will permanently drive away all the new young people who could be brought in to the party to strengthen it and give it a clearer, more winning message.

We can't win by telling anybody that their dreams are silly.

It's shameful to ever do so.

And you can't change things if you DO tell people to stop dreaming.

Because there can't be any enthusiasm for a policy of only small changes, and no movement for real change can be built on telling people to settle for increments and never dream of anything more.

Whoever you vote for, just stop with the talking-down on this already.

You only help the Rethugs when you dismiss dreams and dreamers.

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randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. Or maybe people are just nervous, still adapting to this reality that Bernie can win.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:30 PM
Feb 2016

Mainstream Democrats did not expect this to happen, and unlike Barack Obama, Bernie represents a radical change.

President Obama represented, then and now, positive change, but not radical.

I agree with the radical change, dont get me wrong, but I see how it makes even left leaning Dems nervous.

Radical may be the wrong word, but you know what I mean.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
3. I hope nobody is belittling Bernie's message
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:30 PM
Feb 2016

I love everything he says and I hope/wish it could be so.

Yavin4

(35,443 posts)
5. If Bernie supporters cannot handle people questioninig his strategy for
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:33 PM
Feb 2016

implementing his big policy initiatives, then they're not ready for politics or the real world for that matter.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
6. Is this the latest from the Thought Police?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:40 PM
Feb 2016

Some people have a frightening capacity to stomp out free speech around here.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
7. Making an argument for that people shouldn't belittle something is now policing thoughts?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 06:47 PM
Feb 2016

God forbid anyone should ever argue for anything anymore because, as we all know, everything is just a matter of opinion, except the claim that everything is just a matter of opinion, and also the claim that we should never oppose anyone else's opinion.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
10. If you belittle Hillary's experience, you are working against all the progress we have made so far.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:34 PM
Feb 2016

You will permanently drive away all the solid progressive voters who turn out consistently, year after year, to strengthen it and and derail out winning history (because, remember, we DID win, twice).

We can't win by telling anybody that their experiences are silly.

It's shameful to ever do so (particularly when that somebody was a big 6 member of the civil right movement).

And you can't change things if you DO tell people who went before you to step down because you are talking now.

Because there can't be any enthusiasm for a policy that only reflects a narrow vision of progressivism, and no movement for real change can be built without first building strong coalitions.

Whoever you vote for, just stop with the talking-down on this already.

You only help the Rethugs when you dismiss the effort of people who have already been fighting for years.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
11. Are we allowed to question and criticized the "revolution "?
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:35 PM
Feb 2016

Or are his supporters too fragile for even that?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
13. Apparently not
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:49 PM
Feb 2016

Questioning the glorious Bernie revolution is not only unkind and unthinking, it also proves you kick puppies and eat babies for breakfast.

All hail the Bernie revolution!

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
12. The Clinton economic philosophy is rooted completely and blindly ...
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:38 PM
Feb 2016

in the failed trickle down Chicago school of thought.

Nothing she says or does indicates that she has any understanding or even knowledge of any other options. Two generations of economist and business men/women are infused with these destructive ideas. They heap scorn on dissenters like the church did when it was faced with the idea that the earth revolves around the sun. Forty years of declining prospects for the American people has done nothing to shake the unfailing worship of Chicago school philosophy.

One of the more insidious pillars of this philosophy is that unemployment is necessary. Let that sink in. Unemployment is necessary.

For me, supporting a system or supporting the advocates of a system that ensures many millions of people must scramble and struggle to survive is abhorrent.

Full employment, a high minimum wage and income security changes everything.

Everything.

And that is what this fight is about. Far too many of the comfortable among us fear change and they will blindly fight against the ideas that they do not understand or care about.

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