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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:51 PM Feb 2016

David Plouffe: "Sanders running around acting like Santa Claus...

....and no one wants to be told they can't have things."

Really.

Is that what Obama's campaign manager really thinks of Democratic voters? And particularly voters of color, who are the ones always blamed by the right for wanting free stuff from Democrats?

Plouffe supports Hillary.

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David Plouffe: "Sanders running around acting like Santa Claus... (Original Post) grasswire Feb 2016 OP
It is telling that Hillary defenders have to sound like the gop. libtodeath Feb 2016 #1
Plouffe the Grinch Vattel Feb 2016 #2
Third way David. Wellstone ruled Feb 2016 #3
Expect this to get real ugly before it is all over, power does that. randys1 Feb 2016 #4
That is the thing,he doesnt have to do that libtodeath Feb 2016 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #15
That's funny, because that's what Republicans say about Democrats. myrna minx Feb 2016 #5
The smell of desperation.... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #6
Plouffe's 15 minutes have come and gone. shraby Feb 2016 #7
note: he said it on MSNBC this afternoon grasswire Feb 2016 #8
Bless David Plouffe's heart. I'm betting he's gonna be really disappointed Autumn Feb 2016 #9
lol KMOD Feb 2016 #11
Sorry, you have to live in poverty - no money for you Csainvestor Feb 2016 #12
Bernie as Santa...LOL grasswire Feb 2016 #16
how many people is he talking about Enrique Feb 2016 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #14
I think you took a wrong turn, KMOD Feb 2016 #19
wow grasswire Feb 2016 #21
so the candidate will promise pie in the sky and then sit on everything he said MisterP Feb 2016 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #20
excellent point, thanks nt grasswire Feb 2016 #22
He's right Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #18
that's how Wannski took over the GOP MisterP Feb 2016 #23
Funny - Bernie is promising many of the same things Obama promised. jillan Feb 2016 #24
Better being Santa Claus for the 99% than the 1% cascadiance Feb 2016 #25
It's Christmas Every Day For The 1%.....nt global1 Feb 2016 #30
Dear Virginia (David), yes there really is a Santa Claus Arazi Feb 2016 #26
How come Bernie detractors when talking about "free stuff" never discuss or ignore how Bernie berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #27
Fuck that. For the last 40 years corporate america has looted the national treasury Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #28
Wonder who is playing the UglyGreed Feb 2016 #29
I hear lots of people have auditioned for that part Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #39
I wonder how Canadians can have these things Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #31
What's wrong with providing for the people? scscholar Feb 2016 #32
NO WE CAN'T grasswire Feb 2016 #33
this remark reminds of Barbara Bush on Katrina grasswire Feb 2016 #34
Plouffe drops his New Dem trousers and exposes himself as a Third Way tool.. tokenlib Feb 2016 #35
yes, it IS a GOP attack. grasswire Feb 2016 #36
With respect matt819 Feb 2016 #37
Amazing. The Democratic "elite" have now become tried and true Republicans Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Feb 2016 #40
Plouffe is an advisor for a union-busting corporation, so of course he hates progressives. DemocraticWing Feb 2016 #41
Great. Another Democrat insisting that public goods are bad eridani Feb 2016 #42

randys1

(16,286 posts)
4. Expect this to get real ugly before it is all over, power does that.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:54 PM
Feb 2016

I think the only reason the Sander's camp hasnt gotten ugly is Bernie himself.

Bet your last dollar everybody around him is begging him to go negative.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
10. That is the thing,he doesnt have to do that
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:56 PM
Feb 2016

his message and policies are positive for all but the 1%.

Response to randys1 (Reply #4)

Autumn

(45,108 posts)
9. Bless David Plouffe's heart. I'm betting he's gonna be really disappointed
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 07:56 PM
Feb 2016

when the voters decided to tell him he can't have what he wants.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
16. Bernie as Santa...LOL
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:07 PM
Feb 2016

I'm surprised we haven't seen cartoons to that effect.

And if it helps people decide to vote for Bernie because they really, really, really need someone to lend a helping hand, that's okay too.

The reality is the Bernie simply promises that fewer American sons and daughters will spill their blood in the interest of empire or oil, and that fewer children will go to bed hungry, and that those who graduate from high school will be able to go farther and those who graduate college will be able to find work, and that each American will have an equal voice on election day.....among other "gifts" that really are not gifts but birthrights as Americans.

Response to grasswire (Original post)

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
17. so the candidate will promise pie in the sky and then sit on everything he said
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:07 PM
Feb 2016

for 8 years? Plouffe should know

Response to MisterP (Reply #17)

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
18. He's right
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:08 PM
Feb 2016

Thank you, David Plouffe, for speaking the truth about Bernie Sanders.

Now...RIP your facebook page.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
25. Better being Santa Claus for the 99% than the 1%
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:28 PM
Feb 2016

The 1% have had the government officials they've bought for so many years be Santa Claus for them with tax policy, our military industrial complex, our prison industrial complex, and so many other ways that they've gotten that Santa Claus to gift them wealth redistributed from the masses to themselves.

That Santa Claus wasn't really about rewarding good and those that need to be given back what has been stolen from them for so many years. Times are changing, and the real spirit of a more traditional Santa Claus with a more traditional Democratic Party is thankfully returning to this country!

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
26. Dear Virginia (David), yes there really is a Santa Claus
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:30 PM
Feb 2016

and his name is Bernie Sanders



And we like it

berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
27. How come Bernie detractors when talking about "free stuff" never discuss or ignore how Bernie
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:34 PM
Feb 2016

intends to pay for them

Health care... no more individual premiums from private insurance..very expensive...
increase taxes at a much lower level than we paid for premiums

Free College... transaction fee on Wall street speculation and a modest increase in the top tax brackets

How else do we get the money and wealth that the Trickle down economic plan and the Third way economic plan has redistributed to the top couple percent of our country

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
28. Fuck that. For the last 40 years corporate america has looted the national treasury
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:44 PM
Feb 2016

to make themselves wealthy beyond comprehension. All Sanders is doing is saying "Enough! Stop!, We are going to redirect our government to invest in our people." Just go fuck yourself Plouffe.

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
35. Plouffe drops his New Dem trousers and exposes himself as a Third Way tool..
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:03 PM
Feb 2016

Pulling out a stock anti-liberal attack from the GOP arsenal....

matt819

(10,749 posts)
37. With respect
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:19 PM
Feb 2016

With some variations, sanders' msg is comparable to obama's. Sure, Bernie is more strident and perhaps less refined, but they were/are selling hope. Will Bernie achieve all his claims? Of course not. But neither has Obama and he's on my list as provably the best president in my lifetime.

Nanjeanne

(4,961 posts)
38. Amazing. The Democratic "elite" have now become tried and true Republicans
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:23 PM
Feb 2016

even using Republican lingo to diss a Democratic opponent.

Every time I think they can't be worse - they prove me wrong.

Response to grasswire (Original post)

eridani

(51,907 posts)
42. Great. Another Democrat insisting that public goods are bad
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:46 PM
Feb 2016

It is the nature of public goods that everyone pays for them, and those who need particular ones get them, free only at the point of service.

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