"Colorado Free Beacon poll: Bernie overtakes Hillary! 28 point lead - GONE! POOF!"

[berniepdx420]

By geebeebee, Friday Feb 19, 2016 · 6:31 AM PST

Bernie Sanders has overtaken Hillary Clinton in Colorado with less than two weeks before Super Tuesday, according to a new Washington Free Beacon poll.

The poll shows Clinton’s double-digit lead in the state has evaporated, as Sanders now leads 49 to 43 percent. Nine percent are undecided.

Likely Democratic caucus-goers also gave Sanders a big edge on questions of honesty and trustworthiness and which candidate cares more about people like them.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/19/1487675/-Colorado-Free-Beacon-poll-Bernie-overtakes-Hillary-28-point-lead-GONE-POOF

[Ned_Devine]

1. Uh oh

[berniepdx420]

3. was music to my ears

[blm]

36. There is one big problem with this - Washington Free Beacon is a Moonie News site.

It was started by longtime Moonies developed through Rev Moon's RW propaganda media.

As a Sanders supporter I wish some of you (claiming to support him while posting RW 'news') had a better understanding of the 'sources' you seem to rely on for 'news' about this election. Sanders can win without spreading RW propaganda being crafted to influence those who are unaware of the vast influence of Moonie News.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bad-moon-rising-john-gorenfeld/1102623743

[klook]

59. Thank you.

Some of my fellow Sanders supporters don't want to confront this sort of information.

I think there are two important things to remember about some of the irrational exuberance we're seeing around the Sanders campaign:
1. Obviously there are RW forces who will use any method to trash Clinton, because for some of them, Clinton = Satan. They are not promoting Bernie -- they think he will be easy to dispatch. And anyway, we know RWers do not care whether a story or poll is true, if it advances their agenda.
2. Idealistic young people's hope must be ruthlessly crushed, in the worldview of the RW hate machine. So if they can help fan the flames of unrealistic expectations for Sanders, the harder that fall will be when his supporters feel disillusioned.

So I think it's important to remain optimistic and ambitious, but never to take the bait of unrealistic expectations.

[blm]

62. I hear you. Some of us old-timers recognize the tactic, it was used here during 2003-4. Remember

seventhson and his pals?

Came out on election night as GOP trolls laughing their @sses off at DU because they pretended to be lefties supporting Kucinich and Dean to foment division here.

[CorporatistNation]

140. Hillary Offers NO Hope, Only More of The Same... Which Is Intolerable!

Clinton is paid by Goldman Sachs et al to MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO. Her role in concert with that is to provide hopeful pragmatic soothsaying messages that oh she is trying... and change takes time and on and on... She is the puppet on the string for Wall Street!

[blm]

141. And some people are paid to repeat RW propaganda to maintain GOP's grip on power….

let's cover those bases, too, shall we?

Why recommend a Moonie New source? No Sanders supporter should be gullible at this point to put their trust in Moonie News sources, no matter how they mask it.

[Ino]

71. Please post a list of unacceptable sources.

I've asked for this before from those who always seem to know what's acceptable and what's not, but I guess they prefer to play "gotcha." Not everyone has time to research the owners/affiliations of every news agency. Sometimes it's obvious, but sometimes it is not. The particular source you object to, Washington Free Beacon, was referenced in an article by dailykos, which is what the OP actually linked to. Is dailykos a bad 'source' for 'news' too?

So I wish some of you who claim to know better would just post a list (not a book unavailable at my library) that the rest of us ignoramuses can refer to, rather than shooting us down post by post, alerting on the basis of "RW site!!!!!!", etc. And then adding a lecture and an insult on top of it.

IMO, the truth is just as true when it's reported by a RW site, the National Enquirer, or a source that you deem acceptable. But if it's that all-fired important to you, please help us out with a list that will make you happy.

Thank you.

[blm]

78. If it comes from 'newsmedia' developed by a Korean cult leader or an Australian extortionist then

99% of the time it will be crafted as a propaganda piece.

Washington Free Beacon, Townhall, FrontPage, Insight, Human Events and Washington Times were DEVELOPED over the last 3 decades by Korean cult leader, Rev Moon….a longtime ally/CIA asset of GHWBush. Even the Left Behind series of books were political propaganda aimed at religion-based voters.

It's not about making me happy, Ino. It's about knowing when you're getting played by professional propagandists.

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/4/19/15131/3739

[Ino]

104. That's it? Six sites?

Well, it's a start.

Noted.

If there are any more RW sources that we should avoid, please post what they are.

Thank you.

[blm]

105. I posted what I know off topofmyhead - Moonie News is more than just 6 sites, especially

since the granddaddy is Washington Times.

It's nothing to be shrugged off - there would have been no Bush2 presidency without Moon's propaganda media.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bad-moon-rising-john-gorenfeld/1102623743

[berniepdx420]

111. +420

[TheBlackAdder]

50. ... And it's gone!

.

.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

112. many thanks

never saw this one - poof

[Fuddnik]

2. More "free stuff"

Free Bacon? I'm in!

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

4. Heh heh

Thought the same thing.

[ybbor]

80. Mmm bacon

[Fawke Em]

5. Ha ha!

[CoffeeCat]

7. And after he wins Nevada

more states will fall like dominoes.

Her entire campaign was based on her inevitability and electability--which are both bunk.

The great unraveling has begun.

[berniepdx420]

8. True dat...

[arcane1]

31. She never expected to EARN our votes, and now she's utterly failinig to do so.

It's simply not possible.

[PonyUp]

9. Hillary's going up in smoke. n/t

[berniepdx420]

12. Love it... I'm gonna Bern one Down !!!

[frylock]

23. +420

[FrostyAusty]

32. So....

Where can I buy this? I plan on Bernin one tomorrow as I watch the Nevada Caucus results.. Legally of course.. Also, up here in Seattle, obviously a very liberal city I have not seen ONE bumper sticker/ yard sign anything like that for anyone other than Bernie!!
We are Bernin and Blazin up here in the 206!!

[PonyUp]

34. Here:

https://wanelo.com/p/30443672/blazin-and-bernin-2016

[FrostyAusty]

43. Thank you!

[greiner3]

55. I really want one but I've jumped way toom any hoops to be comfortable buying from this site;

Is it safe?

Asked Laurence Olivier

[PonyUp]

56. Here's some other sites

http://saleooot.com/search/Blazin'%20and%20Bernin'

http://www.lookhuman.com/design/94036-blazin-and-bernin-2016/tee


https://fancy.com/things/947725273564973344/Blazin'-and-Bernin'-2016-%7C-T-Shirts,-Tank-Tops,-Sweatshirts-and-Hoodies-%7C-HUMAN

[greiner3]

51. Where can I get one?

[PonyUp]

52. Here:

https://wanelo.com/p/30443672/blazin-and-bernin-2016

[6chars]

75. Colorado seems like a Bernie type of state

[Warren DeMontague]

108. And Alaska. and Washington. and Oregon.

Quite probably next a little state called California, with 34 Million people. Perhaps you've heard of it.

Oh, those silly hippie weirdos with their legal weed! Its not like there's all that many of them!


By the way, CO is an important electoral swing state. I know DWS likes to insult vital constituencies, but suspect Hillary isnt going to want to too much.

[azmom]

10. Sweeeeet

[casperthegm]

11. Someone is feeling the BERN

Nice! I'm telling you, this is going to be a snowball effect. The more Bernie wins, the more people find out about him and can compare him to Hillary. It's night and day when you compare them issue vs issue and get past the mud HRC slings to take your eye off the facts.

[CharlotteVale]

13. K&R

[bunnies]

14. Well, when you think huge numbers of a states population should be in prison,

its kinda silly to expect their votes. No?

[Faux pas]

15. Kicketty Kickin'

[Helen Borg]

16. Hillary is liquefying quickly!

[dorkzilla]

22. What a world, what a world!

[Mbrow]

17. oopsie! K&R!

[Uncle Joe]

18. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, berniepdx.

[blm]

40. Careful, UncJoe - this is a Moonie News source.

No one here at DU should be posting anything that is sourced only through Moonie News.

I will point it out and condemn when I see HRC supporters doing it and I will condemn it when those who claim to support Sanders do, too.

We've seen too much propaganda from Moonie News over the last 3 decades to trust anything they put out now. We can win the nomination without jumping eagerly to swallow whatever Moonie News shoots in our direction.

[Uncle Joe]

45. Thanks for the headsup, blm.

Peace to you.

[blm]

46. Some of the newer posters are likely unaware of the games being played on them by these 'sources'

and by some of those referencing these 'sources'.

Yeah - this is an oldster giving fair warning.

; )

[libdem4life]

92. I'm an oldster too, sometimes it's just time to give it up...let go, you know?

[blm]

94. Nope - not when it comes to Moonie News propaganda. Especially not HERE.

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Giving up is exactly what the propagandists have been counting on for the past 3 decades. The long timers here at DU know what I'm talking about. We've seen the game play out here since DU's first prez primary and election.

[KingFlorez]

19. The right-wing pollster again? This is actually a decent result for Clinton considering the source

This poll is full of very biased questions against Clinton, so who knows what the methodology was like.

With that said, only 6% lead isn't going to net Sanders a whole lot of delegates and this race is all about delegates.

[Plucketeer]

21. "and this race is all about delegates"

Yeah - the ones "the people" have NO say about. And who could argue with that?

[Lucinda]

24. Looks like the same questions from the other one. n/t

[Politicalboi]

37. It better not be

If they steal this, we won't be there for the GE.

[OilemFirchen]

20. There is no "Colorado Free Beacon".

There is, however, the Washington Free Beacon - the website cited.

Is there a tipping-point for referencing right-wing sources? If so, any idea when that will be reached?

[berniepdx420]

25. your funny

[KingFlorez]

27. That would "you're"

[berniepdx420]

29. hahaha... hook line and sinker

[blm]

42. Have you checked the source?

.

[Agschmid]

81. They don't seem to care.

It is what it is.

[blm]

88. Why won't you explain why you accepted this source?

.

[OilemFirchen]

72. My funny what?

[NurseJackie]

66. Washington Free Beacon (and Center for American Freedom)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Free_Beacon

The Washington Free Beacon is an American web site that publishes news and associated content. It states it is "dedicated to uncovering the stories that the powers that be hope will never see the light of day" and producing "in-depth investigative reporting on a wide range of issues, including public policy, government affairs, international security, and media."[1] It was founded by Matthew Continetti and Michael Goldfarb and launched on February 7, 2012, as a project of the 501(c)4 organization Center for American Freedom.[2] In August 2014, it announced it was becoming a for-profit news site.[3]

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Center_for_American_Freedom

The Center for American Freedom (CAF) is a Washington based self proclaimed "conservative advocacy group" that publishes through the online news outlet, The Washington Free Beacon. Its stated mission is to "transform conservative ideas into policy because we believe that it is America’s freedom which [sic] creates boundless opportunity for her people."[1]

[blm]

82. Spawned by those who earned their 'journalism' creds thru Moonie News Propaganda.

Scratch any of these RW sources and there is almost always a moonie underneath.

[NurseJackie]

85. If anyone uses a source like this to criticize Bernie, it's promptly hidden. :-/

Go figure.



We love you, Hillary!

[blm]

86. Moonie News should NEVER be considered a legitimate source here at DU - No matter who the hit is on.

Because their only motivation is to hurt the Dem party and its voters and its policies in its ENTIRETY.

[SidDithers]

26. As one wise DUer in another Free Beacon thread said...

"Nobody to the left of Ted Cruz reads the Washington Free Beacon".

If they say Hillary is behind, then she's ahead.

Sid

[berniepdx420]

28. hilarious you are...

[merrily]

30. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Only polls showing Hillary ahead are reliable.

I proudly stand with the State of Colorado in endorsing Bernie.

[blm]

97. This isn't about any poll, it's about a Moonie News poll.

Big difference.

[merrily]

107. Makes no difference at all to me. I've already discounted any poll in which Hillary is not in lead.

[blm]

116. Whether a source is Moonie News or not should make a difference to every citizen, and, especially

to Dems.

[merrily]

122. What would you suggest I do about a Moonie source, after I discount it?

[blm]

125. Same thing you'd do if you discovered Ted Cruz was courting your vote wearing a Sanders mask.

I hear he likes swift kicks. ; )

[merrily]

129. Ted Cruz is a human being. I can't kick link on the internet in the shins.

Seems as though you are stretching to avoid saying that discounting info from an unreliable source is the most I can do about an unreliable source Think I'll leave this now. It doesn't seem to be going anywhere sensible

[blm]

130. Seems as though you didn't like the light-hearted reply.

OK.

But, basically, anyone here at DU should know Moonie News by now and what you do with it is always your own call. Don't be surprised if it shocks the hell out of the rest of us if you find it credible and suitable for DU.

I guess this is the new DU.

[merrily]

131. Your post is dishonest. I said nothing that suggests I find a Moonie source credible.

[blm]

133. Then why are you dogging me about it and why recommend this Moonie News thread and

why the constant surliness aimed at me?

[merrily]

135. Wow. Your second dishonest post in a row. Who's been dogging who again?

This was my post on the subject. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1274799

It was not a heavy post, nor was it posted to you. You could have left it alone. You are the one who replied to me first and then again and again.

It was all your chastising replies to me that created this subthread. I said I was leaving off the discussion. Did you leave off? No, you replied again, quite dishonestly, IMO and you've done so again.

Also, please quote all my allegedly surly comments before you claimed falsely that I was saying the source was fine.

[blm]

136. Gee, must be your tone. I was giving a heads up about the source. You didn't like it.

After all, you recommended the post using the Moonie News source. You oddly asked what you are supposed to do about it after you discount it. OK - Strange question to me, so I answered it lightheartedly. You didn't like that, either. Tough for me, eh?

[merrily]

137. My tone? You hear tone on the internet? Wow.

Luckily, people can read the subthread and see you scolding in post after post.

[blm]

138. Get a grip. Can't you find another post using Moonie News you can recommend?

.

[merrily]

139. Are you going for some kind of record?

[pinebox]

33. As a Coloradan I've been saying CO would go to Bernie

This is of no shock at all

[asuhornets]

35. RIGHT WING WEBSITE...n/t

[sadoldgirl]

38. Since I live in Colorado, I would be very

cautious about this poll.

It is very difficult to predict a state
with caucuses.

All I can say is that I hope he wins here.

But I am pretty certain that Trump will
make it here on the repugly side.

[pinebox]

69. No we'll take it, people here dislike Hillary's pot stance

[Autumn]

142. People here don't like her stance on guns either.

[Politicalboi]

39. Hillary needs more studies

Before she would support medical or legalization of weed. Bernie wants to reschedule it.

[restorefreedom]

96. but she wants more research

i.e., more big money for her big pharma buddies. and really, who knows how long this "research" could take, decades, perhap$$$$$$$$

[warrprayer]

41. Hee hee!

The 1% must be getting nervous!

[Duval]

44. Kicked and recommended. nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. I got my doubts on polls

as I stated yesterday.

But if this is the case...this is just like 2008 all over again

[840high]

63. Yes it is.

[Rocky the Leprechaun]

48. I'm seeing the same from the ground.

More Bernie supporters than Clinton supporters.... and local Latinos loved what they heard from Bernie last night.

[zappaman]

49. Awwww

[workinclasszero]

53. Right wing garbage site

Should be banned on a liberal democratic party board IMO.

[FSogol]

54. I agree. DU is no place for the Moonie Times and their supporters. n/t

[JonLeibowitz]

58. DU is not meant to be a liberal democratic party board -- just a democratic party board.

The party purity tests for Sanders that I keep seeing prove that too many are concerned with Identification badges than ideas or values.

[blm]

84. Also not a site to spread Moonie News propaganda deliberately crafted to play us against each other.

I am surprised some on the left are rejecting the truth about Washington Free Beacon and its intent with these pieces.

I want Sanders as the nominee - but, I will not embrace Moonie News propaganda along the way. Sanders doesn't need propaganda shit like this spread around and being done by those hiding behind his good name.

[JonLeibowitz]

90. Fully agreed, you won't find me defending the Free Beacon. n/t

[JTFrog]

134. Read the TOS. It clearly states that right wing points of view are not welcome here.

Don't be a wingnut (right-wing or extreme-fringe).
Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office. Teabaggers, Neo-cons, Dittoheads, Paulites, Freepers, Birthers, and right-wingers in general are not welcome here. Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers, including advocates of violent political/social change, hard-line communists, terrorist-apologists, America-haters, kooks, crackpots, LaRouchies, and the like.

Our Community Standards

It is the responsibility of all DU members to participate on our discussion forums in a manner that promotes a positive atmosphere and encourages good discussions among a diverse community of people holding a broad range of center-to-left viewpoints. Members should refrain from posting messages on DU that are disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. These broad community standards of behavior are maintained through the combined efforts of members posting and serving on citizen juries, using their own best judgment to decide what behavior is appropriate and what is not.

[Kalidurga]

57. Alerting

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

Disruptive, you are giving Hillary fans a sadz.

Hurtful, it really hurts their feelings to see Hillary blow a 28 point lead.

Rude, it's from a RW source and we know they couldn't tell the truth if their very lives depended on it.

Insensitive, "Leave Hillary ALONE."

Over-the-top, how dare you post a poll that doesn't show Hillary taking a commanding lead.

Inappropriate, it's from a RW source and you know that some people can't stand to see that brought here even if that source reported on an issue they wanted to see reported and they agreed with the report.

[blm]

67. Why not just explain why Moonie News propaganda sites like WFB should be accepted AS a news source?

As a Sanders supporter it's not the content that annoys me, it's the legitimacy many of my fellow supporters are giving to a Moonie News propaganda piece.

Just because a piece is crafted to appeal to us doesn't mean we should swallow what was crafted for us. When did Moonie News become a legitimate source to you, Kal?

[Kalidurga]

68. Why would you assume it's a legitimate source to me?

I don't believe any MSM source.

[blm]

73. If WFB is not legitimate to you then why take aim at those saying it's a RW Moonie 'news' source?

.

[Kalidurga]

74. I don't think getting humor is your strong suit.

[blm]

79. actually, it is….

but, then, my lengthy relationship with Michael O'Donoghue probably means that I am not accustomed to seeking it out with a microscope.

[Kalidurga]

83. That's nice

[book_worm]

60. Right wing rag and GOP pollster even Rachel Maddow called foul on their Nevada poll

wondering if they are trying to influence the democratic caucuses.

[Motown_Johnny]

61. So the expectation should be for Hillary to win Colorado?

Is that what you are trying to say????

[Betty Karlson]

64. Panic in the weathervane compound!

Quick: let's invent a smear!

[d_legendary1]

76. Ask and ye shall receive!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511273860

[Betty Karlson]

114. Oh come on: that one is six months old and long debunked! eom

[d_legendary1]

126. Read my first sig line

This shit ain't going away.

[demwing]

65. Ruh Roh

Hillary might have won, if it weren't for you meddling millennials...

[WillyT]

70. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[berningman]

77. Camp weathervane is coming in for a hard landing

[OilemFirchen]

87. 118 recs for a right-wing push poll.

Welcome back my friends, to the show that never ends.

[blm]

103. They only see the DailyKos and NOT the fact that it's a Moonie News poll.

The OP knows by now, and seems to be anxious to defend his Moonie News sources by calling them something else….uh…freedom of speech.

[NuclearDem]

91. Thank you all 120 of you (at this moment) for so graciously playing into RW hands.

The polls of caucuses commissioned by the Washington Free Beacon were carried out by a polling firm with virtually no prior history and only surveyed the Democratic contests, not the Republicans.

In short, these "polls" are worthless trash obviously designed to influence the contests and undermine the candidate RWers seem to have deemed the greater challenge in November.

Congratulations.

[berniepdx420]

93. Go away thank you... shall I show all the times FOX news polls were quoted... only polls that

have hillary winning in SC are allowed to be shown

[blm]

95. You don't get it - Moonie News was developed specifically to propagandize against Dems and

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democracy, itself. Moon was a committed global fascist and his propaganda media was developed to persuade an entire segment of this nation to see democracy as an obstruction and to see unfettered capitalism (global fascism) as the every answer to a nation's every problem.

Where did your activism come from that you think it alright to ignore the truth about the 'news' sources you are using here?

[NastyRiffraff]

119. Thank you, blm

Sorry you are being put down by your fellow Bernie supporters. I know about Moon, quite well in fact. You're right; this is pure right-wing propaganda. Moon was on record saying his goal was to rule the world (because God, of course) and his Moonie followers are his clones.

There are plenty of valid media sources, some of which actively support Bernie, some are neutral, that can be used here in support of your candidate. No need to go dumpster-diving.

[blm]

120. Exactly, and trying to legitimatize its use even after being informed of it agenda - Would KKK be an

accepted source if it published something someone WANTS to believe?

[blm]

98. You won't dare answer, eh?

.

[zappaman]

100. +420 n/t

[joshcryer]

99. EZ

[Boxerfan]

101. Colorado has a free bacon pole???

Potheads-They think of everything a stoner may need.

[one_voice]

110. .

[quantumjunkie]

102. K&R

[one_voice]

106. wow..

Free Beacon..

What the fuck.

The Washington Free Beacon is an American web site that publishes news and associated content. It states it is "dedicated to uncovering the stories that the powers that be hope will never see the light of day" and producing "in-depth investigative reporting on a wide range of issues, including public policy, government affairs, international security, and media."[1] It was founded by Matthew Continetti and Michael Goldfarb and launched on February 7, 2012, as a project of the 501(c)4 organization Center for American Freedom.[2] In August 2014, it announced it was becoming a for-profit news site.[3]

The site is noted for its aggressive, ideologically driven reporting, modeled after liberal counterparts in the media such as Think Progress and Talking Points Memo.[2][4] Jack Hunter, a staff member of U.S. senator Rand Paul's office, resigned in 2013 after a Free Beacon report detailing his past as a radio shock jock known as the "Southern Avenger" who wore a luchador mask of the Confederate flag.[5] The publication also broke several stories about former first lady and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's successful 1975 legal defense of an accused rapist that attracted national media attention.[4][6]

The New York Times described the Free Beacon's reporting as "gleeful evisceration."[7] However, its tactics have also led to attacks from media critics and watchdog groups. The Atlantic's Conor Friedersdorf called the Free Beacon's stated mission "decadent and unethical."[8] Media Matters for America founder David Brock sent a letter to news organizations in 2014 saying, "If credible media outlets regard the unethical practices of The Free Beacon as valid, all of journalism will be debased."

Political alignment‎: ‎Conservative
Editor-in-chief‎: ‎Matthew Continetti
Headquarters‎: ‎Washington, D.C.
Managing editors‎: ‎Sonny Bunch, Aaron ...

And from the same site we have:

http://freebeacon.com/politics/economists-question-bernie-sanders-campaign-proposals/

http://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-and-wife-steered-campaign-nonprofit-money-to-family-and-friends/

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/meet-bernie-sanders-israel-hating-advisers/

http://freebeacon.com/politics/crazy-bernie-sanders-blames-koch-brothers-for-va-scandal/

There's more where that came from.


How's that source looking now? Still feeling all bouncy?

It's a conservative, liberal hating rag. They're disgusting. Might as well quoted Rush.

[still_one]

109. Wow is right. Thanks for the insight

[blm]

117. Please make this post its own thread. Some of my fellow Sanders supporters are new and unfamiliar

with the widespread nature of Moonie News and its purpose to eradicate the left and the Dem party, altogether.

[brer cat]

121. ...and some are old and familiar.

I appreciate your efforts to keep the trash from piling up too high.

[blm]

123. Thank you - Hard to believe someone can repeatedly post Moonie News sources without the entire

DU forum calling them out for it.

[brer cat]

128. That would have been the case earlier.

The effort by *some* Bernie supporters to shut up voices that express differing opinions has been successful. You have to notice that fewer and fewer people post here. I only stopped by because of a link somewhere else and stayed long enough to thank you for your efforts.

[blm]

132. I don't think the worst voices are real Sanders' supporters. They sound more like seventhson

and his ilk who show up here during every primary pretending to be lefty purists and constantly agitating against the party.

[Live and Learn]

113. K&R nt

[amborin]

115. kicking

[randome]

118. GONE! POOF! There goes the reliability of this poll.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[book_worm]

124. There goes Nevada--real votes not some untrustworthy poll--GONE! POOF!

[Robbins]

127. Colorado is caucus state

establishment will make sure CLinton wins it.