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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:32 PM Feb 2016

Nevada: Why they are trying to intimidate voters by threatening litigation.

Sanders is starting his day with a rally in sparsely populated Elko, Nevada. He says “we are here to win. We hope to win.” But he adds, “I want democracy to flourish.”

Sanders asked supporters to “show the world that democracy is alive and well here in Nevada.”

Elko County is heavily Republican and has fewer than 4,000 registered Democrats. But Sanders’ event drew several hundred people, a sign of his strategy to boost turnout throughout the state to offset Hillary Clinton’s strength around Las Vegas.

Let's see: 6 debates at first, then we added the town hall dog and pony shows to promote Clinton, the voter data was withheld, they refused a recount in Iowa..... You would think I was describing the Republican Party.

The Republicans are going to love to bring this up in the general election to piss off Bernie Supporters. Nothing like trying to terrorize voters. Way to go Democrats.

Update: My God. I forgot NV is a swing state. Way to give the Republicans ammunition for the GE. I bow down to your brilliance.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whitehouse/the-latest-sanders-says-killer-mike-fuss-overblown/2016/02/18/3c5b4776-d69c-11e5-a65b-587e721fb231_story.html

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Nevada: Why they are trying to intimidate voters by threatening litigation. (Original Post) Skwmom Feb 2016 OP
were there any online ista polls from last night? I didnt see any, only that Bernie was 91, litlbilly Feb 2016 #1
Just the heavy.com poll that you already referenced... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #52
The Clinton campaign is in a panic. libtodeath Feb 2016 #2
OTOH dirty politics is business as usual for her. n/t cui bono Feb 2016 #4
wait, the story doesn't match the headline--who's being threatened with lawsuits? MisterP Feb 2016 #3
People who vote for Bernie. n/t cui bono Feb 2016 #5
No. Only repukes that caucus for Bernie and then vote in the repuke primary. hack89 Feb 2016 #17
So no one is allowed to switch parties? cui bono Feb 2016 #19
Democracy is not "one man two votes". hack89 Feb 2016 #25
They're not voting twice in the same election. cui bono Feb 2016 #28
So you are happy with repukes voting for Bernie hack89 Feb 2016 #33
Well when you lay it out like that it is beneficial to Dems since Hillary can't win the GE. cui bono Feb 2016 #35
What is the likelihood of Bernie not winning more than 57% of the delegates? hack89 Feb 2016 #37
I don't know. cui bono Feb 2016 #38
Fine with me. The moral outrage is overblown in my opinion hack89 Feb 2016 #41
And yet you are morally outraged about something that will most likely have little to no effect cui bono Feb 2016 #44
That's nice. hack89 Feb 2016 #47
Where's your evidence that is going to happen? frylock Feb 2016 #36
It is most likely a hypothetical hack89 Feb 2016 #39
We've been telling Hillary Supporter for months that Bernie has crossover appeal. frylock Feb 2016 #40
Cynical manipulation is not "cross over appeal" hack89 Feb 2016 #42
Are they voting in the Republican primary? frylock Feb 2016 #43
Before you jump into the middle of a fucking sub thread how about reading it first. hack89 Feb 2016 #46
I fucking read it. frylock Feb 2016 #48
Ok. Have a good evening. Sorry about the language. Nt hack89 Feb 2016 #49
You too. frylock Feb 2016 #50
No one is supposed to vote in more than one primary. n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #53
In 2008 we had simiar stories nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #56
This is why I made the thread. Skwmom Feb 2016 #6
thanks! let's just say that I can't SEE that thread ... MisterP Feb 2016 #8
The Nevada party is threatening Republicans mythology Feb 2016 #15
So you don't have a problem with voter fraud? MohRokTah Feb 2016 #7
I don't think voter fraud is what this is about. nt Skwmom Feb 2016 #9
Then you are confused. eom MohRokTah Feb 2016 #10
Nope. I just realize how manipulative the Clinton team is. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #11
Please explain where the voter fraud is. panader0 Feb 2016 #13
This isnt about them changing parties...this is about a loophole found so they can vote twice. n/t Lucinda Feb 2016 #14
Well they're not voting twice in the same election. cui bono Feb 2016 #23
That is exactly what they are asking people to do. Different caucus days and the Rep rolls Lucinda Feb 2016 #27
It's not the same election. It's two different primaries. cui bono Feb 2016 #29
Wow. Really? You have no problem with people voting in the Rep AND Dem caucuses? Lucinda Feb 2016 #51
You ok with them voting twice? Because that is the issue. Nt hack89 Feb 2016 #18
If voters break the the law, that's wrong. Got any examples? panader0 Feb 2016 #24
Did you even read the op? hack89 Feb 2016 #26
What part of the OP are you refering to? panader0 Feb 2016 #30
My bad hack89 Feb 2016 #34
voting twice in the primary is okay with you? bettyellen Feb 2016 #16
When did that happen? cui bono Feb 2016 #21
apparently it is a thing that can happen through some loophole- since Dems let you sign up the day bettyellen Feb 2016 #54
How is switching parties voter fraud? cui bono Feb 2016 #20
This isn't about voter fraud. This is about a cause loophole that a Clinton operative has mhatrw Feb 2016 #22
Can you imagine what this board would look like if they thought that Republicans were crossing over Empowerer Feb 2016 #55
Who fight against voters? SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #12
I stand with Harry Reid DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #31
So, did you just make up your own title bc the one at your link giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #32
This is not Dems Fault, This is not Repubs fault SheenaR Feb 2016 #45
 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
1. were there any online ista polls from last night? I didnt see any, only that Bernie was 91,
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:41 PM
Feb 2016

and Hillary was 8. That was just from an OP after the town hall.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
17. No. Only repukes that caucus for Bernie and then vote in the repuke primary.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:53 PM
Feb 2016

can't you at least read the OP?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
25. Democracy is not "one man two votes".
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:59 PM
Feb 2016

this is not democracy. It is a cynical attempt to manipulate the Dem primary. Democracy means making a choice.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
28. They're not voting twice in the same election.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:06 PM
Feb 2016

I'll give you this if you give me superdelgates.

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hack89

(39,171 posts)
33. So you are happy with repukes voting for Bernie
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:18 PM
Feb 2016

even though you know they will be voting for a RW wing nut in the GE? Hell of a revolution you have going there.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
35. Well when you lay it out like that it is beneficial to Dems since Hillary can't win the GE.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

I said I'd give you this if you give me superdelegates... that's a total sham, or are you happy with Lobbyists deciding which Dem to send to the GE?

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hack89

(39,171 posts)
37. What is the likelihood of Bernie not winning more than 57% of the delegates?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:29 PM
Feb 2016

because that is the only scenario where super delegates matter.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
38. I don't know.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:33 PM
Feb 2016

And if we're going to do math and stats here, how much of a difference will this issue of voting in Nevada make?

But are you saying you are fine with Lobbyists as superdelegates?

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hack89

(39,171 posts)
41. Fine with me. The moral outrage is overblown in my opinion
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:36 PM
Feb 2016

too many clueless people not understanding how thing really work.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
44. And yet you are morally outraged about something that will most likely have little to no effect
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:42 PM
Feb 2016

on the outcome.

Interesting tidbit, you are outraged about something that you perceive will hurt Hillary and not at all about something that could benefit Hillary, even though it shows how corrupt our party's primary process has become.

Not surprised.

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hack89

(39,171 posts)
47. That's nice.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:51 PM
Feb 2016

have a good evening.

Can't wait for Super Tuesday when DU starts returning to normal.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
39. It is most likely a hypothetical
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:34 PM
Feb 2016

I just found it interesting that at least one Bernie supporter had no problem with repukes manipulating a Dem primary as long as Bernie benefited.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
40. We've been telling Hillary Supporter for months that Bernie has crossover appeal.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:35 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe pay attention next time.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
42. Cynical manipulation is not "cross over appeal"
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:38 PM
Feb 2016

if they were truly Bernie supporters they would not be also voting in the repuke primary now would they?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
46. Before you jump into the middle of a fucking sub thread how about reading it first.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:50 PM
Feb 2016

it is clear that we are not talking about people genuinely switching parties.

Give it a fucking break- you are trying to hard to be offended.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
48. I fucking read it.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:52 PM
Feb 2016

It's nothing but pure fucking speculation from a campaign that is greasing the skids for another loss tomorrow. Zero evidence. None.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
8. thanks! let's just say that I can't SEE that thread ...
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:53 PM
Feb 2016

funny thing is, I blocked all these types well before the primary campaign started ...

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
15. The Nevada party is threatening Republicans
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:25 PM
Feb 2016

Who are promoting voting for Sanders on Saturday and then switching back to vote in the Republican caucus a few days later. The example I saw was from the University of Nevada Reno.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
13. Please explain where the voter fraud is.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 05:59 PM
Feb 2016

Should Republicans not be able to change parties? Isn't that what Hill did?

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
14. This isnt about them changing parties...this is about a loophole found so they can vote twice. n/t
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:07 PM
Feb 2016

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
23. Well they're not voting twice in the same election.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:56 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe while you guys are changing this rule you can change the superdelegate rule too.

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Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
27. That is exactly what they are asking people to do. Different caucus days and the Rep rolls
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:00 PM
Feb 2016

are already closed.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
29. It's not the same election. It's two different primaries.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:07 PM
Feb 2016

How do you know they are all going to vote for Bernie?

I'll trade you though, I'll give you this if you give me superdelegates.



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Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
51. Wow. Really? You have no problem with people voting in the Rep AND Dem caucuses?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 08:05 PM
Feb 2016

I've got nothing to say to you if that isn't a problem for you.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
34. My bad
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

got my ops mixed up. I was referring to the thread about how the repukes were going to manipulate the Dem primary. That is what the litigation is all about.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
54. apparently it is a thing that can happen through some loophole- since Dems let you sign up the day
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:20 AM
Feb 2016

of the caucus and Republicans would already have you signed up already, and are still happy to have you vote the following week. I suppose Dems could do it too. I had heard it happened in the past, so when they found people had voted in both, the Dems tossed them out. Not sure if the Republicans care to check, some are encouraging it saying it is legal- or you won't "get into trouble" for it. It's stupid, I think they should just do both caucuses the same time to prevent it.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
22. This isn't about voter fraud. This is about a cause loophole that a Clinton operative has
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:55 PM
Feb 2016

been trying to spread far and wide to give the Clinton campaign a preposterous excuse for tomorrow's thumping.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
55. Can you imagine what this board would look like if they thought that Republicans were crossing over
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 01:26 AM
Feb 2016

to vote for Hillary?

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
32. So, did you just make up your own title bc the one at your link
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

is in relation to Trump in SC & your excerpt sure as shit doesn't explain your headline any better.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
45. This is not Dems Fault, This is not Repubs fault
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 07:45 PM
Feb 2016

It is the fault of Nevada for creating such a ridiculous loophole.

I don't think it's right, but no citizen is breaking Nevada law. It's just a dumb loophole.

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