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mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:11 PM Feb 2016

Superdelegates: Sanders Just Not Corrupt Enough to Be a True Democrat

According to Monica Bauer, Bernie is just too damn clean for the dirty Democratic party.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/monica-bauer/superdelegates-bernie-sanders_b_9263352.html

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So do not be surprised if he does not walk away with the vote of a single superdelegate. It won't be because of any conspiracy. It will be because Bernie Sanders has not only never been a Democrat, he's shown open contempt for Democrats for a long time.

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Here's the thing: Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat. ... He doesn't care about building the party up, only about changing it. And he spits on every Democrat who has to take PAC money to get elected, which is most Democrats who don't come from personal wealth. For, unlike candidates in Vermont, which has some of the cheapest media markets in the country for advertising, candidates in most states have to spend an enormous amount of money to get elected. The average Congressional candidate has to spend at least 3 or 4 million dollars to get their message out and even have a chance of winning; the average senate candidate has to spend upwards of 7 to 20 million dollars. And Bernie Sanders sits and makes the case that this is all dirty money, this is all money corrupting the system. But he's never had to raise that much before, and now he has national exposure and access to the fund raising magic of the internet, which allows him to run his clean campaign. ...

The fact that Democrats have to get PAC money to win doesn't make them part of the problem, it makes them able to win elections until they can fix the problem by gaining majorities in both the House and senate.

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Ford_Prefect

(7,918 posts)
1. Except that the bought tend to stay bought and have so far done nothing to fix the problem.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:17 PM
Feb 2016

The choice between 2 evils still results in evil. It is time to stop this false equivalency.

Bernie has done nothing but assert classic NEW DEAL and Great Society ideals. As one who is well past tired of so-called democrats who wilt at the first sign of controversy and who willfully negotiate away the rights and protections we fought so damn hard to establish, I am not going to accept any more faked democracy.

If you cannot stand up when it matters to do so why did you take the job to begin with? We called that chickenshit where I grew up.

We don't have time left in the future of our party, our children, our neighbors, our country or our planet to waste our votes on anyone who hasn't got the simple faith in people it takes to stand up FOR THEM.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
2. "we HAAAVE to do it because then people won't VOOOTE for us and then we'll LOOOOSE"
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:26 PM
Feb 2016

same song and dance as for the IWR 14 long years ago--and now look: which of the two houses did all that PAC money win us in 2014?

These people are the backbone of the Democratic Party, and without them, the party would wither away.


holy shit
 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
4. "until they can fix the problem by gaining majorities in both the House and senate."
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

Didn't they already have this under Obama?

Did they fix it?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
6. Didn't even try,
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:33 PM
Feb 2016

and they killed single-payer and the public option at the beginning of that sell-out. Just more bullshit.

Qutzupalotl

(14,322 posts)
7. Without superdelegates, Sanders will need at least a 15% margin in unpledged delegates.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 06:35 PM
Feb 2016

Kind of like what we'll need in November against voter suppression techniques. An uphill battle, I just wasn't expecting that from within my own party.

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