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La Mentidosa: Hillary Lie # 7,246: She promises (Original Post) amborin Feb 2016 OP
Haven't heard that in a long time. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #1
Mentidosa? When did anyone hear that, LOL. It isn't a Spanish word. Jeeze people. bettyellen Feb 2016 #4
My long deceased Spanish grandmother said it. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #5
Nope. You are probably thinking of another well known word, sorry. bettyellen Feb 2016 #6
mentirosa? dana_b Feb 2016 #17
I personally can't stomach that ad knowing azmom Feb 2016 #2
La Mentidosa? That is not Spanish. Wow, you really have your ear to the ground, huh? bettyellen Feb 2016 #3
Nah, OP just made the mistake of phonetic spelling. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #9
can't hear the "R" I guess. I figured it was a cut and paste from another person.... bettyellen Feb 2016 #10
The problem is most spanish speakers do pronounce the "R" sound with a "D" sound VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #14
I can't say about the South West, but not at all true up here in NYC. The R is definitely pronounced bettyellen Feb 2016 #16
There's a song? Huh, I need to look that up VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #19
Yeah I remember it playing on the radio over and over again. I think I learned more Spanish from bettyellen Feb 2016 #24
No way. I've never heard anyone pronounce "R" as a "D". In Spanish each has lunamagica Feb 2016 #27
That was quite an error KingFlorez Feb 2016 #11
especially since it is such a common word, have never heard a D instead of R when anyone from bettyellen Feb 2016 #12
I'm from that community. I've never, ever heard a "R" pronunced "D". Well, maybe lunamagica Feb 2016 #28
Maybe if you hab a bad cold!! Tks for confirming my suspicion. Someone not even SSL is spreading bettyellen Feb 2016 #31
Promises. Promises. Promises. oasis Feb 2016 #7
You're looking for "mentirosa". VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #8
Kindly Abuela = false advertising Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #13
We had that exact conversation here at home nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #15
Of course, what kid wouldn't sell their parents for a few bucks? nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #18
Primero aprende a escribir antes de criticar. Beacool Feb 2016 #20
And she still lied to that kid nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #22
The word is "piensas" azmom Feb 2016 #26
Actualy, Central Americans, Argentinians, Uruguayans and others say "pensas" lunamagica Feb 2016 #29
Do you have a link. azmom Feb 2016 #30
Link? Of usages of "Pensas"? Here are a few lunamagica Feb 2016 #32
I see, but look at the whole post. If it is not in spanish, azmom Feb 2016 #33
I'm sorry, I'm not understanding. If it is not Spanish? It is Spanish, all of it lunamagica Feb 2016 #34
There are variations of Spanish. Beacool Feb 2016 #36
That just shows your ignorance, not mine. Beacool Feb 2016 #35
Interesting. If an OP cannot be contradicted, sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #21
They do that to me regularly nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #23
Well it it the central point of the OP- a supposed meme it would seem no one knew how to say... bettyellen Feb 2016 #25

onecaliberal

(32,939 posts)
5. My long deceased Spanish grandmother said it.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:23 PM
Feb 2016

Sorry if my comment bothers you, I haven't heard it since she passed, haven't ever heard anyone else use it.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
2. I personally can't stomach that ad knowing
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:14 PM
Feb 2016

She said to send the children back. Over 80 refugees that were sent back were killed.

Note. You misspelled Mentirosa

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
9. Nah, OP just made the mistake of phonetic spelling.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:28 PM
Feb 2016

Born and raised in El Paso, you'd be surprised how many Army folks did that.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. can't hear the "R" I guess. I figured it was a cut and paste from another person....
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:30 PM
Feb 2016

who does not know Spanish well.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
14. The problem is most spanish speakers do pronounce the "R" sound with a "D" sound
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:36 PM
Feb 2016

Think it has something to do with rolled R's in spanish.

EDIT: At least in El Paso, I don't have much experience with other communities.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
16. I can't say about the South West, but not at all true up here in NYC. The R is definitely pronounced
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:37 PM
Feb 2016

It's also a famous song lyric and the R is there.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
19. There's a song? Huh, I need to look that up
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:41 PM
Feb 2016

Suppose I should have expected a concentration in NYC though; although that is news to me. I've not been yet, on my list of to-do's.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
24. Yeah I remember it playing on the radio over and over again. I think I learned more Spanish from
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:54 PM
Feb 2016

WADO radio than I did from school or my coworkers.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
11. That was quite an error
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:31 PM
Feb 2016

When one is trying to post tough in another language, they can at least get the spelling right.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
12. especially since it is such a common word, have never heard a D instead of R when anyone from
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:34 PM
Feb 2016

the dozen or so latino communities I have worked with used it- frequently. the R was always pretty strong. It's not phonetic, it is ignorance of the language.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
28. I'm from that community. I've never, ever heard a "R" pronunced "D". Well, maybe
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:21 PM
Feb 2016

A toddler learning to talk would do it...but not anyone else

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
31. Maybe if you hab a bad cold!! Tks for confirming my suspicion. Someone not even SSL is spreading
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:31 PM
Feb 2016

this. It is what it is.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
15. We had that exact conversation here at home
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:37 PM
Feb 2016

she lied to that kid. There is nothing she can do at present to change that deportation order. NOTHING, Not one bit.

And it turned my stomach. The fact that she is willing to make that an add will not play well, because people who have contact with La Migra know better. And some of their family members do vote.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
20. Primero aprende a escribir antes de criticar.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:41 PM
Feb 2016

O pensas que aca no hay nadie que sepa leer en español?

A todo esto, la palabra es "mentirosa", no "mentidosa".


 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
22. And she still lied to that kid
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 03:48 PM
Feb 2016

and that alone is despicable.

Y si hablo español. Y lo escribo tambien. Esto dice mas acerca de ti, y la politica que tu apoyas

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
29. Actualy, Central Americans, Argentinians, Uruguayans and others say "pensas"
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:23 PM
Feb 2016

As in "Vos pensas", instead of "Tu piensas"

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
32. Link? Of usages of "Pensas"? Here are a few
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:49 PM
Feb 2016
http://santelmoloft.com/2008/06/02/vos-vs-tu-a-los-pedos/ (sorry for the vulgarity in the title)

Conjugating with Vos

It would be much easier if all one had to do to speak Castellano were change the tú to vos. But as luck would have it, the verbs are also different. For example, in most Spanish-speaking countries to ask where a person is from you would say “¿De donde eres tu?” In Castellano it’s “¿De donde sos vos?” Notice that the two verbs–eres and sos–are completely different.

There aren’t too many verbs that change so drastically. In most cases, it’s the accent and maybe a missing vowel that accounts for the difference between tú verb forms and vos verb forms. Actually, the vos verb forms are easier. Drop the final -r on the verb, add an -s, and put the accent on the final syllable. Simple.

Verb Vos Tú

ser (to be) vos sos tú eres

estar (to be) vos estás tú estás

tener (to have) vos tenés tú tienes

querer (to want) vos querés tú quieres

venir (to come) vos venís tú vienes

decir (to say) vos decís tú dices

pensar (to think) vos pensás tú piensas

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A song, "Vos Pensas"

http://www.musica.com/letras.asp?letra=1456141


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¿Y vos pensás que no podés? Mirá esta historia…

http://blogs.lanacion.com.ar/running/actualidad/y-vos-pensas-que-no-podes-mira-esta-historia/

azmom

(5,208 posts)
33. I see, but look at the whole post. If it is not in spanish,
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:03 PM
Feb 2016

Then there are more grammatical errors.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
34. I'm sorry, I'm not understanding. If it is not Spanish? It is Spanish, all of it
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:35 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:08 AM - Edit history (1)

Castellano and Spanish are the same thing.

http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/castellano.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
36. There are variations of Spanish.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:00 AM
Feb 2016

Argentines don't call it "español", they call it "castellano" because the "vos" is old Castilian. The only ones who I have heard used the "vos", aside from Argentines, are people from Uruguay (it used to be part of Argentina) and the region of Antioquia in Colombia. If you're familiar with the singer Juanes, he uses the "vos" too.

By using the familiar "vos" instead of "tu", verbs are not conjugated the same.

For example:

Tu piensas - Vos pensas

Tu quieres - Vos queres

Spanish is not as simple as some people deem it to be.

Beacool

(30,253 posts)
35. That just shows your ignorance, not mine.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:52 AM
Feb 2016

I learned Spanish in Argentina, they don't use the "piensas" because they use the "vos" instead of the "tu". I went to high school in Buenos Aires and I'm equally fluent in both languages.

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