Sanders concession: "ordinary people are catching on" to the influence of superpacs on elections

[ucrdem]

Yes Senator, we are, and possibly that's why your opponent won by 5 points:



http://www.AmericanCrossroads.org

Did he really think we wouldn't notice?

[virtualobserver]

1. You are a member of Team SuperPAC....Hillary is on life support from her Wall St. pals.

[ucrdem]

2. Bernie's concession is one indirect insinuation after another.

Wall Street, criminal behavior, Obama let them go free (he doesn't say Obama), Hillary's in their pocket (but he doesn't say Hillary). Snide and basically mean-spirited.

Hillary on the other hand gave a gracious, issue-oriented speech that puts everything in perspective inlcluding Wall Street. She's right: she's not a one-issue candidate and I believe that is why she won tonight.

[virtualobserver]

3. the truth isn't mean spirited

you have found a way to live with that truth, but we haven't

[ucrdem]

4. Here. Listen to both:

Bernie's concession speech:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/bernie-sanders-concession-speech-nevada-219554
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Hillary's victory speech:

[virtualobserver]

7. Bernie doesn't do mean spirited.....Hillary has a team assigned to that.....

David Brock and Bill Clinton.

[CorporatistNation]

15. She Will Be Feeling The Bern Going Forward Especially in The Primary States Where

CHEATING is a bit more difficult!

[AzDar]

5. sHill was up by nearly 30 points weeks ago, so I'd say he's spot-on ( as per usual)...

Go, Bernie... GO!

[Avalux]

6. What are you talking about? Hillary was supposed to blow Bernie out of the water in Nevada.

Your lame attempt to conflate Bernie with American Crossroads is just that, lame. Seems as if someone is a bit nervous tonight.

[ucrdem]

8. He called it the "number one issue": billionaires buying elections through "powerful and well-funded

Superpacs" (audience boos) and he's taking on the establishment etc etc.

Yet his own campaign is the beneficiary of a widely-known powerful and well-funded SuperPac, Rove's, just one of many RW Superpacs per the NYT in July:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/us/the-best-way-to-vilify-clinton-gop-spends-heavily-to-test-it.html

If it's that important to him, you'd think he'd make sure to disavow the helps he's been getting from SuperPacs ...

[virtualobserver]

9. Find me a Bernie speech where he doesn't ATTACK them.

hillary's wall st. and billionaire funded SuperPACS are about to go to town on Super Tuesday......she can't go to enough Wall. St. fundraisers to keep up with her regular campaign funds.

[ucrdem]

10. "We will not allow billionaires and their Superpacs to continue to buy elections in the US"

Bernie says forcefully. And yet he's allowing Rove's SuperPAC to continue to buy his own election, or try to. Do you not see a huge problem with this message? It's a logic fail, and whether or not caucus members sort it out to the letter, his message clearly makes no sense.

p.s. and the reason I'm drawing attention to it is that Sanders also promises to bring his strange message to voters in upcoming primary states, and that would be unfortunate.

[virtualobserver]

12. "allowing Rove's SuperPAC"...LOL

Bernie has no power over Rove.

Your post doesn't make a lot of sense. It is a logic fail.

I'm concerned about both Rove and Hillary and every Republican candidate playing this same game.

[ucrdem]

17. He can forcefully disavow it. Hillary gave him a chance to at the pre-Iowa debate. He didn't. nt

[virtualobserver]

20. Bernie can't come to her rescue every time.If she can't handle the Republican tactics and strategy..

then she needs to rethink her campaign.

[ucrdem]

23. The ads feature Bernie and defend his healthcare plan by making Chelsea look untruthful.

Since he's in them, including his image which can be seen in the screenshot in the OP, he needs to disavow them, or the logical conclusion is that he doesn't denounce them, i.e. he approves of them.

[virtualobserver]

24. I realize that having the support of billionaires and the entire establishment isn't enough.....

but she is going to have to handle this on her own.

If Rove defends Bernie's healthcare plan against the Hillary campaign's lies, then my advice to you is to tell Hillary to stop lying about Bernie. Then Rove won't have anything to work with.

[snot]

29. . . . his "strange message" being . . . what, exactly?

[ucrdem]

31. At several points he refers to billionaires buying elections through superpacs.

Listen to the speech. At the beginning he says it's the number one issue and at the end that he's leaving to battle a dark Superpac that wants to destroy him or some damn thing. Weird. Anyway these are all references to the Clinton campaign, which with Rove's help has been painted as a pawn of Wall Street, but the fact of the matter is that Sanders is getting help from the worst SuperPac of all, Karl Rove's American Crossroads. Click the link and see for yourself:

http://americancrossroads.org

[ucrdem]

32. Here is the passage I'm talking about,

from a transcript of Sanders' Nevada concession speech by Egoberto Willies, hattip to Egoberto:

But I also know that on Super Tuesday and before, we are going to be taking on a very powerful and well-funded super PAC, a super PAC that receives a significant amount of money from Wall Street and wealthy special interests.

http://egbertowillies.com/2016/02/21/bernie-sanders-nevada-caucuses-concession-speech-transcript-video/

What "very powerful and well-funded super PAC" does Bernie have in mind, if not Rove's, which is helping him and which he's never to my knowledge mentioned let alone "taken on"?

[hedda_foil]

11. W.H.A.T. T.H.E. F.U.C.K.???????

You know perfectly well that the article and your own fabrication have no more to do with each other than Bernie has to Super PACs. In other words NADA, NOTHING. ZERO.

[MrMickeysMom]

13. ^T^H^I^S^

[ucrdem]

14. I don't suppose you read it?

An ad titled “Shadow,” which ranked among the most effective ads that Crossroads tested in Orlando, argued that scandal trailed Mrs. Clinton like a menacing shadow. “Whitewater, Travelgate and Filegate,” a narrator began, referring to scandals from decades ago, including one over a real estate deal. Then the narrator moved on to more recent controversies, including her deleted emails, the foreign donations to her family foundation and the four Americans killed in the 2012 attacks on the United States compound in Benghazi, Libya.

“There’s a sense of distrust, a sense of unease about her authenticity and her candor, that isn’t hard to stimulate,” said Steven Law, the president of Crossroads.

In modern campaigns, given the fragmented way media is consumed, television ads are important but not always enough to create a narrative, especially over a long period.

Crossroads plans to use a kaleidoscopic approach for its anti-Clinton campaign. In order to target particular voters with tailored messages, the campaign will feature tools including television and radio spots, digital ads on mobile devices, and pre-roll, the commercials that play before videos online.

Crossroads is eager to establish itself as the leading attack dog against Mrs. Clinton, but it is a crowded field, especially as other super PACs are emerging as bigger players in the Republican money world.

[nc4bo]

19. LOL this is some funny shit, fresh out the shitter!

Now Bernie you go tell kkkarl to cut it out!! Doesn't matter that you have nothing to do with kkkarl whatsoever and Camp Weathervane are the ones using kkkarl's playbook all willynilly.

Oh ho LOLLOL.

What a reach

[ucrdem]

22. He had an opportunity to simply say "I have nothing to do with Crossroads," "I don't approve of

these ads," "I disapprove of Karl Rove's tactics as much as you do," etc. It would have been soooo easy. But he didn't say anything.

[hedda_foil]

25. And none of this has fuck-all to do with Bernie.

[ucrdem]

26. He's the direct beneficiary of Rove's ads. He's named and pictured

in the Chelsea ad (see OP). And yet he keeps casting aspersions on some unnamed sinister SuperPac supporting Hillary, While he's a beneficiary of a well-known RW SuperPac -- Karl Rove's American Crossroads, as has been noted in the NYT and on ABC TV:

Now do you see the problem?

[hedda_foil]

27. No. I don't see your problem. What.I see is your ridiculous bullshit that not even you believe.

[ucrdem]

28. No I don't believe Bernie's insinuations for a second. Not since about 1994.

But the point I'm making is that he can't possibly win with such a strangely self-referential message. Sooner or later some wiseacre like Trump or Cruz is going to send out a tweet that will flatten him.

[Armstead]

16. Why doesn't Hillary ask Trump to stop calling Bernie a Communist?

That's about as relevant as your insinuating post.

[ucrdem]

18. Trump is not creating campaign ads for her. nt

[sadoldgirl]

21. This is the silliest attempt to smear Bernie.

However, if it gives you a good night's sleep,
keep at it.

[restorefreedom]

30. unrec.nt

[ucrdem]

33. Transcript of Sanders' concession speech (link and excerpts):

From the beginning:

But what I think is happening is that as people hear our message — and it is a tough message — because it speaks about the truth of the American society today that a lot of people just don’t want to address. And that is the fact that we have a corrupt campaign finance system which is undermining American democracy and must be changed.

We will not allow billionaires and their super PACS to continue to buy elections in the United States of America.

From the end:

But I also know that on Super Tuesday and before, we are going to be taking on a very powerful and well-funded super PAC, a super PAC that receives a significant amount of money from Wall Street and wealthy special interests.

Transcript: http://egbertowillies.com/2016/02/21/bernie-sanders-nevada-caucuses-concession-speech-transcript-video/
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Yet Sanders has never mentioned let alone denounced or taken on Rove's AmericanCrossroads ads. Am I missing something?