2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEight years ago President Obama did not immediately
prevail over Hillary.
And I remember Obama in a video taping, with some setbacks 8 years ago, telling his group of advisors -- "I never said this would be easy. Anyone here think I said this [beating Hillary and the Democratic machine] would be easy?"
No one heard him say it would be easy, and it was not easy but Barack Obama won and Bernie Sanders can do the same!
Politics is not for the faint of heart. The worthwhile struggle is never easy but Bernie Sanders is my spokesperson and I support him -- and will support him in the future -- totally.
He exemplifies the best of us, has never stopped trying to improve the lives of all Americans, and he will not stop helping us all if he has a heartbeat. He knows the road is steep, the dangers many, but I could not imagine a better candidate for the Presidency!!!
I gave him a $60 contribution tonight, $50 pledge and 20% tip.
Go Bernie!!!
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)1) Win South Carolian by nearly ten points.
2) Win at least 3 states on March 1 by a minimum of 20 points.
3) Win 3 more states on March 1 by a minimum of 5 points.
Good luck with that, it's now less than a week to South Carolina and a few hours more than 9 days to Super Tuesday.
Bohemianwriter
(978 posts)By any means should African Americans vote for Hillary in SC?
What has she done in office (including as First Lady) to earn her a civil rights chamion and their vote?
And what do you think you have to gain by dragging the good name of civil rights acticists through the mud with your Karl Rovian attacks?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Look at polling aggregates. At this point Sanders doesn't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of even coming close to it.
He has nine days to turn that around. Hilary is above 90% chance to win a majority of states on Super Tuesday and at 99% to win South Carolina.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... of the n-word then what did Sanders expect in the super Tuesday states?!
AzDar
(14,023 posts)And we KNOW how it ended... FEEL THE BERN!!
Kang Colby
(1,941 posts)and it will soon be mathematically impossible for Bernie to win. So yeah, what does 2008 have to do with this?
localroger
(3,634 posts)As I write this Hillary is up in the delegate count 51 to 47. The superdelegates are not pledged and can change their preferences, and they probably will if Sanders wins the pledged delegate count. The difference in their performance to date is exactly meaningless, as is any consideration of which states were won or lost. The race is a dead heat.
The theory in 2008 was that Super Tuesday would make it mathematically impossible to win. Clinton won most of those states, but because of proportional representation did not get a commanding delegate lead. People, obviously including important members of the Clinton team, do not seem to understand the difference between proportional and winner-takes-all math. There are no "firewalls" in this contest. It does not matter who wins any particular state by less than five points.
Even if Hillary comes out of Super Tuesday with a lead of a couple of hundred pledged delegates she can still lose. If you are staying up late to see whether the last few returns make the race 48-52 or 52-48 you are paying attention to the wrong thing. I've been told several times that Clinton hired many of Obama's strategists for this campaign, but there is little evidence that she's listening to them.
I am not saying this to beat a drum for Bernie. In 2008 Clinton came to a chess match, played by the rules of checkers, and lost. And every time I hear the word "firewall" or "commanding lead" from one of her people I see history repeating itself.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)he had some establishment support even though she had more.
Dems apparently were worried about her losing 2008.they don't care if they lose in 2016.
The caucus system wasn't fixed against him.
Blacks would listen to obama.majority of them won't to bernie.