Nonpartisan Latino Org: Sanders Won Latino Vote in Nevada 53% to 45%.

[AtomicKitten]

It's pretty weird when we can't agree on the facts, but I still see people insisting Sanders did not win the Latino vote in Nevada. A nonpartisan, nonprofit public policy research organization, the William C. Velásquez Institute, reviewed the data from Nevada's caucuses. They found the Clinton Camp was using 30-year-old and long since abandoned methodology. Sanders won the Latino vote by 53% to 45% and the white vote by 49% to 47%. (Interesting, ABC has since found that Latinos under 45 voted for Sanders 70% to 27%: http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/22/1489323/-ABC-News-Hispanics-younger-than-45-voted-70-27-percent-for-Sanders-over-Clinton-in-Nevada). These figures are based on entrance/exit polling which we have used to monitor other nations for fraud. This is not to say these statistics will necessarily carry over from state to state; these findings specifically address the Nevada caucuses.

The findings:

William C. Velásquez Institute

For Immediate Release More Info: 323-332-6160
Statement by WCVI President Antonio Gonzalez:

Who Won the Nevada Latino Vote?
Latinos Reached a Record Share of Nevada Democratic Caucuses

(Los Angeles, Feb 22)After hearing about disputes between the Sanders and Clinton over the Edison Entry Poll Survey results on the Latino vote in the Feb 20 Primary Caucuses WCVI undertook a review of the publicly disclosed data.

WCVI concludes that the survey results are statistically consistent with the margin of victory of Hillary Clinton on Feb 20. The main dispute among pundits and between campaigns has been the assertion that it is statistically impossible for Hillary Clinton to narrowly lose the Latino vote (45% to 53% with Latinos representing 19% of the voters) and narrowly lose Whites (47% to 49% with Whites representing 59% of the voters) and still win the election by 5.3%.

However WCVI concludes the Clinton margin of victory is adequately explained by the large margin of victory Secretary Clinton won among African American voters (77% to 23% with AA's representing 13% of the voters).

Simply put there is no relevant statistical inconsistency between Edison's Entry Poll results for Latinos, Whites, and Blacks and the overall election results. Based on this fact WCVI concludes that there is no statistical basis to question the Latino vote breakdown between Secretary Clinton and Senator Sanders.

We note that some analysts have said that Secretary Clinton's victories in heavily Latino precincts proved that she won the Latino vote. However the methodology of using heavily Latino or "barrio" precincts to represent Latino voting behavior has been considered ineffective and discarded for more than 30 years due to non-barrio residential patterns been common among Latino voters since the 1980's.

Lost is this controversy is the fact that the data shows a record high Latino vote share in the Democratic Caucuses with Latinos representing 19% of the vote compared to 13% in 2008.

WCVI is a non-profit, non-partisan Latino public policy and research organization founded in 1985 with offices in Los Angeles and San Antonio.

link: http://myemail.constantcontact.com/Who-Won-the-Nevada-Latino-Vote-.html?soid=1114208817960&aid=TUzlNNKZYHc

[nashville_brook]

1. k and r

[amborin]

2. K&R

[winter is coming]

3. Thanks for the link and the explanation.

It will be interesting to see how the other states play out.

[AtomicKitten]

13. you're welcome

It will be interesting when we get to Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona to see how this dynamic plays out. It's good to know that Bernie's message is breaking through the din of politic bullshit assaulting voters.

[liberal_at_heart]

4. Hillary supporters think if they repeat a lie enough times it becomes the truth.

[AZ Progressive]

5. As someone who is half hispanic, this makes me glad

I don't want another president meddling around in Latin America, and I was appalled with Hillary and the Obama Administration's role in the Honduras coup.

[Nyan]

10. Amen!

[AtomicKitten]

17. agreed x 10000

[Vattel]

6. Viva el viejito!

[Zorra]

7. MSM Clinton shills were desperately lying their faces off to convince naive

people that it was impossible for Latinos to have voted in greater numbers for Bernie than for Hillary in Nevada.

In one of their most awful word salad propaganda pieces, they went so far as to say that young Latino voters didn't really count as Latinos.

It was some of the most disgusting propaganda I have ever seen, reminiscent of Bush's MSM lapdogs during his residency in the WH.

WCVI rocks for truthtelling.

[mythology]

8. Entrance polling a caucus?

Sounds rather useless. The point of a caucus is that the other people have a chance to convince you to join their side.

Primaries offer a much better way to measure the level of support.

Additionally the polling was of a very small and unrandomized sample at a small number of precincts.

Even national exit polls have trouble accurately measuring minorities. One of an individual state polling 25 precincts and 216 Hispanic voters isn't exactly confidence inspiring.

The initial polling showed Sanders and Clinton tied. But in the end Clinton won by about 5.5%.

[AtomicKitten]

16. Entrance/exit polling is used to determine election fraud internationally.

When it doesn't match up, something is wrong. Hillary is reported to have won by 5.5%. Perhaps that reflects the scores of Clinton voters who were allowed to caucus without registering. The findings above reflect a study content with the outcome, so I wouldn't poo-poo their findings too vigorously. It may cause an actual investigation of WTF went on and the pattern emerging of Team Clinton pulling all kinds of bullshit in the caucuses, especially since much of it has been caught on video.

[Uncle Joe]

9. This is what Brock is afraid of, Bernie's message is taking hold across racial lines.

Thanks for the thread, AtomicKitten.

[AtomicKitten]

18. I hope he continues to sway hearts & minds to his message.

State after state.

[Dont call me Shirley]

11. K & R!

[Jefferson23]

12. I keep hearing this is for one, not really happening and that it won't matter in the end.

Looks like good news to me..thank you.

[workinclasszero]

14. Explain the fact that Hillary won all the major

Latino areas in Nevada then.

[AtomicKitten]

15. It's in the OP. Nobody is going to spoonfeed you this. If you want to know, read their findings.

[LWolf]

36. She did.

It's right there in the OP.

Should she write it louder and slower for you?

[EndElectoral]

19. Edison polling also found Sanders won the Latino vote by the same margin.

No one can definitively say since voting is not tracked by race in the vote, but polling showed Sanders did win the latino vote even though Clinton got a lot of the casino votes.

[AtomicKitten]

23. Yep she swept the casinos thanks to Reid's thumb on the scale.

[jillan]

20. I read something earlier that explains this. It said that while districts that were predominately

Latino did go to Clinton it does NOT mean that everyone that voted in that district was Latino.

It's so true. I live in a neighborhood that is predominately white. But it's probably 70% white. So the other 30% don't count? Lol!

If you put it in the context it all makes sense and why the NYT is wrong and also is the only place saying that Hillary won the Latino vote.

I believe it was the LA Times.

[AtomicKitten]

26. interesting perspective ... thanks

[workinclasszero]

21. NOPE...OP is fantasy

No, the Polling Doesn’t Prove Bernie Sanders Won the Hispanic Vote in Nevada

The actual election returns in Las Vegas’s Clark County hint at a different story. Analyzed neighborhood by neighborhood, they suggest that Mrs. Clinton might have won the Hispanic vote by a comfortable margin. She won about 60 percent of delegates in heavily Hispanic areas, a result that calls the finding of the polling into question.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/22/upshot/why-clinton-not-sanders-probably-won-the-hispanic-vote-in-nevada.html?_r=0

[AtomicKitten]

22. Wrong. The study discusses that obsolete methodology.

I know it stings but FFS it's one state.

[workinclasszero]

24. LOL sure w/e

[AtomicKitten]

25. you're a poor sport just like Hillary, how embarrassing for you

[workinclasszero]

27. I'll live with it

Bernies time is limited OTOH.

[CoffeeCat]

29. No one believes that except you. Bernie supporters aren't buying your schtick

This race isn't over.

There is only 1 delegate between Sanders and Clinton.

Only three states have voted.

You mocked me and other Sanders supporters who said that he would do well in Iowa. Many of your ilk said it would be over after Iowa.

You guys have written Bernie's political obituary thousands of times.

We're still going strong after three states---nearly tied in delegates.

That's reality.

[workinclasszero]

30. We fight till the end

So be it...

[CoffeeCat]

31. We're all going to the mattresses--both Clinton and Sanders supporters

That's just how it is.

May the best candidate win.

[workinclasszero]

32. Fight on warrior

Its an honorable thing

May the best candidate win and then the damned republicans!

[CoffeeCat]

33. Word (nt)

[CoffeeCat]

28. This jives with what happened in Iowa...

I received many messages from a LULAC leader in Iowa. He is a Clinton supporter.

He was kind enough to share with me that 63 percent of the Iowa precincts that had the highest Hispanic populations, went for Sanders.

Also, Hispanic participation in the Iowa caucuses increased 300 percent from 2008. That is an astounding statistic, because 2008 was such a record-breaking year for the Iowa caucuses.

I was also told that Sander's message really resonated with the Latino community. He even went so far as to say that the Latino community was instrumental in helping Bernie secure the impressive tie.

I am very encouraged by this. Bernie is building an eclectic, diverse supporter base.

He's only behind by 10 in Texas--and I imagine the more that Hispanics in that state hear Bernie's message, the more it will resonate with them--just like in Iowa and Nevada.

Good news!

[Zorra]

34. ^

[AzDar]

35. K & R

[Zorra]

37. uno mas ^