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Related: About this forumHillary Dissed Black Leaders During Africa Trip: Lectured,Criticized, Patronizing Neo-Colonial Scold
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Secretary of State Hillary showing respect toward Africans and Africa (NOT):
hillHillary Was Tone-Deaf During Africa Trip
One day before [Hillary Clinton] arrived in Nairobi, her first stop on the seven-nation tour, Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga told the United States: "We don't need lectures on how to govern ourselves.
Lecturing us on issues that deal with governance and transparency is in bad taste."
The next day, Clinton went ahead and criticized Kenya's leaders, calling on them to hold those responsible for the post-election violence accountable.
In Nigeria, the ruling party and the Senate President strongly condemned Mrs. Clinton's remarks.
In South Africa, the Southern Times argued in an editorial titled "Do we need these lectures from the West?" that her preaching cast her in the role of a "neo-colonial scold."
An editorial in the East African, "Poor Hillary, just good enough for Africa," pointed out that Clinton has been relegated to the "sort-out-the-Africans role," while her husband and other White House envoys get the critical foreign policy assignments.
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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's 11-day trip to Africa, which came less than a month after President Barack Obama's visit to Egypt and Ghana in July, was an attempt to emphasize Africa's importance to the United States. Clinton was supposed to reassure African leaders that the Obama administration intends to engage with the continent, despite wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and perennial problems in Israel and the Korean peninsula.
The trip, however, merely reinforced Africa's marginal position in U.S. foreign policy. Clinton did not announce any new initiatives or policy directions. Instead, she said the United States would continue to support Bush administration initiatives on "faith-based" HIV prevention and Millennium Development grants. She also pledged to extend military aid to Somalia and $17 million for victims of sexual violence in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC).
Clinton's rhetoric during the trip signaled a continuation of the Bush administration's dualism in its policies toward Africa. This dualism consists of moral condemnation of corruption and human rights abuses while facilitating economic and security ties with mineral-rich and security partners.
Her self-proclaimed "tough love" speeches sounded patronizing.
She threatened Eritrea with unspecified action for supporting militants in Somalia. In the DRC, she lost her temper at skeptical questions from students. In response to a question about the motives for her trip, she replied that the United States was not obliged to aid victims of violence. [/b
]She also took umbrage at another student's query about her husband's views on China's investments in Africa. In Angola, too, she struck an incongruous figure lecturing on good governance, despite the history of U.S. efforts to subvert the democratic process by financing a terrorist militia (UNITA) to destabilize the government.
Clinton insisted on giving unsolicited advice on the connection between democracy and economic growth.
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Nesbitt, Francis Njubi. Foreign Policy in Focus. (Aug 21, 2009).
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Americans but not African Africans.
desmiller
(747 posts)instead of settling.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)during the parts of the debates / 'town meetings' (guffaw, guffaw) that I have had the stomach to watch.
superior
imperious
patronizing
and all the rest
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Eko
(7,301 posts)to what you posted would be good.
amborin
(16,631 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]
amborin
(16,631 posts)dsc
(52,162 posts)it can't be because you are telling us a story you like instead of an honest story.
R. P. McMurphy
(834 posts)try googling "Nesbitt, Francis Njubi. Foreign Policy in Focus. (Aug 21, 2009)."
Took me about 20 seconds to find the article.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)restaurants as well with the name. It was explained to me that they were very popular because they had helped a lot of the programs all over the country. All political press coverage tends to be very partisan, so I bet you;d find articles saying the reverse.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)That's funny. Here's a link to a list of the top 100 male and female names in Tanzania and Clinton isn't on either list. Nor is Bill, nor is Hillary.
The male names go down to 0.14% of the population for the 100th name, so even if Clinton was name #101 and also at 0.14%, you'd have to meet 700 boys to find 1 Clinton by random chance, 4200 boys to find 6 Clintons.
If you're going to make up a story, at least try to make it credible.
http://www.studentsoftheworld.info/penpals/stats.php3?Pays=TZA
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)need to do better than some random list like that. I did meet a load of people with last names adjectives as names, both seemed very common, and I don't see a lot of either on your list. So maybe none of them were ever pen pals.
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kgnu_fan
(3,021 posts)yardwork
(61,622 posts)The countries mentioned in this article imprison and kill people for being gay. The U.S. has complained - mildly - about these and other human rights violations promoted by those leaders. In return, the leaders complain about being told what to do.
The U.S. gives a lot of aid to Kenya and other African nations. I'm in favor of this, but I'm also in favor of protecting the lives of gay and transgender people in those countries. They are treated horrifically.