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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:21 AM Feb 2016

DU approves of Bill Clinton appointed federal judges now? Seriously?

US District Judge Emmitt Sullivan is permitting discovery in a FOIA case against the State Department because the arrangement of Hilary's private email server leaves serious questions about whether State is even capable of adhering to FOIA law at this point.

Sullivan is a Clinton appointee and handles dozens of FOIA cases. He no man on a right wing witch hunt. He is a learned jurist and federal judge in good standing.

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DU approves of Bill Clinton appointed federal judges now? Seriously? (Original Post) morningfog Feb 2016 OP
I do not think many of these people truly grasp the story nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #1
for those interested in searching the emails iAZZZo Feb 2016 #2
I have done my share of reading nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #3
Wow thanks for that HillDawg Feb 2016 #5
you're welcome (n/t) iAZZZo Feb 2016 #18
When the other team's quarterback joins our team, he becomes a hero. arcane1 Feb 2016 #4
No one gets blanket approval from me just because of WHO supports them, Lucinda Feb 2016 #6
Wow. So now the federal judge is aligned with judicial watch because morningfog Feb 2016 #7
I linked to his statements about the Obama administration in MaggieD's thread Lucinda Feb 2016 #11
Yes, and it was all in the context of this case. morningfog Feb 2016 #12
Really? You think the administration is hiding things on Hillarys behalf? Lucinda Feb 2016 #13
I think the facts of the case support the judge's ruling. morningfog Feb 2016 #15
So the answer is yes, then. I don't believe a judge is always the bastion of all that is good Lucinda Feb 2016 #16
The judge's ruling doesn't mean that the administration is hiding things on Hillary's behalf. Jim Lane Feb 2016 #17
Actually, what they're trying to do is conflate a right wing group with the judge. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #8
Oh I know, but some people refuse to understand that. morningfog Feb 2016 #9
I just wanted to point it out. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #10
Assuming it is all over the news tomorrow nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #14
It's beyond ironic, isn't it? jillan Feb 2016 #19
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
1. I do not think many of these people truly grasp the story
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:25 AM
Feb 2016

yeah, JW is on a witch hunt, that is what they do. But you do not go for discovery unless there is a reason for it. And this judge thinks there is. But, but, but... all I can say is... the reaction is not just predictable (Religion and politics are just as predictable ), but at this point, at least to me... sheer comedy. I should be reading... by the way

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
4. When the other team's quarterback joins our team, he becomes a hero.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:42 AM
Feb 2016

When he joins another team, he's a villain again.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
6. No one gets blanket approval from me just because of WHO supports them,
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:45 AM
Feb 2016

and a couple of decades old appointment deserves looking into when they align themselves with Judicial Watch.
You may think our judicial system is fault free, but I don't. It doesn't have to be a CT to be worth looking at.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
7. Wow. So now the federal judge is aligned with judicial watch because
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:50 AM
Feb 2016

of one favorable ruling?

What are you even saying, "looking at?"

Are you wanting to review the docket and read the pleadings to see whether he abused his discretion? Do you believe he acted contrary to the law?

I just don't get what you are saying. There is no evidence that this judge has been anything but patient and fair.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
11. I linked to his statements about the Obama administration in MaggieD's thread
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:57 AM
Feb 2016

I'm not going to post a second link to the Washington Times, once was bad enough, but you can find it on this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1331812

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
12. Yes, and it was all in the context of this case.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:31 AM
Feb 2016

He has seen State's actions and said there is reasonable suspicion they have not acted in good faith and for good reason.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
15. I think the facts of the case support the judge's ruling.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:37 AM
Feb 2016

where is there an abuse of discretion?

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
16. So the answer is yes, then. I don't believe a judge is always the bastion of all that is good
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:41 AM
Feb 2016

and I also don't see any wrongdoing by Sec Clinton or the Obama admin, so we are clearly talking at cross purposes and wasting each others time.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
17. The judge's ruling doesn't mean that the administration is hiding things on Hillary's behalf.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:41 AM
Feb 2016

The standard for discovery is not "the party seeking discovery establishes that its position in the litigation is correct." Discovery is for the purpose of giving all parties a fair chance to make their case, and to prevent surprises at trial, by giving them access to the potentially relevant evidence. Then comes the decision about which side is correct.

The question before the judge was whether the disclosure sought by Judicial Watch was reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence. If that standard is met, the judge should grant the request even if his preliminary opinion, based on what he's seen so far, is that Judicial Watch will ultimately lose.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
8. Actually, what they're trying to do is conflate a right wing group with the judge.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:50 AM
Feb 2016

Yes, Judicial Watch, a right-wing group, has filed suit for access to Hillary's emails on the private server. We know this.

But the decision to compel witnesses to testify was made by a judge, appointed by Bill Clinton, and not some right-wing group or GOP partisan committee.

Just like they try to conflate Benghazi with the private server. They want to muddy the waters. The two are separate investigations. The latter by a bunch of crazed loons in Congress, the second by the FBI, a group of trained investigators. The issues are separate.

And Judicial Watch isn't calling the shots here. A judge is.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
10. I just wanted to point it out.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:54 AM
Feb 2016

Looks like they're testing their talking points for when this is all over the news tomorrow.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
14. Assuming it is all over the news tomorrow
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:33 AM
Feb 2016

I count on the news having a kitty rescue on backup.

Is my cynicism showing?

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