BLM Activist Interrupts Clinton "I am NOT a Superpredator."

[kcjohn1]

[VulgarPoet]

1. And anyone who has ever used that term to describe someone else shouldn't be near the White House.

eom

[roguevalley]

39. it takes guts to speak truth to power

I applaud her greatly

[senz]

71. A brave and lovely young woman.

I love the way she did it, the neatly drawn homemade sign on cloth (easy to fold and carry), the silent unveiling of it, and then politely said what she needed to say.

[VulgarPoet]

173. Amen. n/t

[Aerows]

222. Twitter has been brutal - here's a sample.

[monicaangela]

227. PERFECT!

[zentrum]

246. Wow. Well Done!

Great question about who is the super-predator.

That activist should not have been removed. She paid her $500. Was calm and soft-spoken.

HRC should have had an answer for her because supposedly HRC cares deeply about this issue and has thought profoundly about it for years and has not just been mouthing platitudes. Right?

Observations in your last photos are spot on.

[Unknown Beatle]

245. But...

Hillary Clinton Is One of the Most Ethical (and Most Lied About) Political Leaders in America, doncha know.

Yeah right! I want what the writer is smoking, unless it's crack or meth.

[JonLeibowitz]

2. "Let's get back to the issues that I think are important" --HRC

[NWCorona]

67. That qoute will have have some legs

[sarge43]

128. Always about her.

Quite the authoritarian.

[agracie]

135. How do we get that video "out there" ?

I am speechless with disgust and loathing. " BACK TO THE ISSUES " ????? The ISSUE was just led out the door, and you did NOTHING to stop it.

[enigmatic]

141. It's way, way out there right now.

Trending on twitter, and being spread on Facebook.

Cat's not only out of the bag, but has left the station on an cross-country tour.

[PonyUp]

166. The video is going viral so fast some sites can't handle the internet traffic and are giving errors.

[That Guy 888]

145. I heard "Let's get back to the issues. The issues that I think are important..." and the video ends

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Before we hear what Clinton thinks are important issues. Two separate sentences, slightly less awful. She wants this to go away and never be mentioned again, but I think Town Hall Forums are about to become Hillary's least favorite debate format.

She truly is stuck in a pre-smart phone, pre-youtube, pre-social media, political fantasy.

[PonyUp]

165. That's one speech I bet Hillary wish she had the only copy of. n/t

[Merryland]

201. yep!

[New Earth]

3. wow

good for that girl!

[Wilms]

4. And it's all caught on video.

[Sancho]

159. You do realize this 20 year old discussion was about drug gangs?

It was not related to black, hispanic, or any particular race.

At the time, there was an effort to reduce violent crime at the end of a rising crime wave. Lots of political campaigns were talking about it, and lots of government officials were concerned.

It's simply inaccurate to say that efforts to reduce crime was intended to be discriminatory. A lot of the crime at the time was reported to be gang-related.

[Wilms]

162. Was there anything other than a spike in crime that led to the comment??

According to her it seems there was a new kind of crime going on. And actually, there was. Crack cocaine. How did that stuff find it's way to the inner cities?

She is part of the problem.

[Sancho]

167. That's quite a stretch...

I seriously doubt that Hillary was a crack drug dealer. I don't think Hillary was part of a violent gang. I haven't noticed any gang tattoos and she doesn't ride around on a motorcycle.

She was not part of the problem, and the conversation at the time was about gang violence. It was true that drug trafficking was involved with some gang activity; but to say it was simply crack or entirely related to drug trafficking is an exaggeration.

Hillary made this speech before she was elected Senator from NY. It's hard to be part of a problem that she had no vote or involvement in creating.

The reasons for the decline in crime has many reasons, but the top of the list is a change in police strategy - and other things like an aging population and eliminating lead from child environments. Crack was part of the problem, but only a part. In fact, at the time putting more people in jail was cited as a cause of the crime decline. We now look back and say that too many were put in jail for non-violent crimes, but that was not an issue at the time.

http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/LevittUnderstandingWhyCrime2004.pdf

Regardless, Hillary's speech was not aimed at black people; but was simply talking about the crime wave of the time and an increase in gang violence. It's incorrect to make it something it wasn't - and the BLM protestor didn't understand the quote that was taken out of context an put on her sign.

[Wilms]

168. I asked how cocaine got on the streets.

While saying she's part of the problem, I did not mean to suggest she was in on it. It was a CIA thing.

But you did remind me. Another response to my question could be, "Through the airport in Mena, AR."

[Sancho]

172. Are you suggesting that Hillary was part of the CIA???

Do you think that Hillary was running drugs in Arkansas while she was First Lady in the White House? I don't recall Hillary being an agent in the CIA in the 90's (even though she likely reported what she saw while traveling the world).

Is there some new CT?

Hillary was speaking in 1996 and describing a gang violence problem. The article I linked described the proposed and actual scientific reasons discovered by scholars for the decline in violence.

At the top of the list of real reasons for the decline was an increase in the number of police and greater incarceration of criminals. Use of crack is included in the article.

What is wrong with speaking out against crime; and the ways to reduce violence? In 1996 it was the height of a crime wave that the entire country was discussing. When the article was written in 2004, crime was rapidly declining and the causes were discussed by researchers.

Again, there was noting racial implied in her description of gang violence.

[Wilms]

175. Reread what I wrote. n/t

[Sancho]

181. You aren't reading what I gave you...facts.

The OP is some kind of implication (and your link to the original video) that Hillary had a racial motivation. That video was repeated on MSNBC this morning.

All of the pundits and commentators reached the same conclusion that I did. The AA commentators too.

There's nothing in her speech except a comment about doing something on gang violence. It has nothing to do with race - those gangs could be any or all races.

You can look back in hindsight and discuss drug laws, police actions, criminal justice, or anything else. Whether crack was some CIA plot or not is irrelevant to Hillary discussing gang violence. Even if the violence was some weird CT (like the CIA was purposely encouraging violence or creating gangs), that still would not change the misrepresentation of Hillary's decades old video.

The BLM group has legitimate complaints about police treatment, criminal justice, and social justice. This particular video is taken out of context - just like Bernie might be taken out of context for something he said or did years ago.

[Wilms]

185. Where did I single out AA?

Reread my comments and tell me where I said that.

And dare I add, "All Lives Matter".

[Sancho]

188. The implication of the BLM protester is that Hillary was making a racist statement.

You linked the original video, so I responded to the video.

I was pointing out the same thing (as discussed on MSNBC this am); that the video is being taken out of context by BLM.

The reference was to the gang violence of the 90's and a crime wave. Hillary was not pointing at minorities.

In today's time, we can look back at mandatory sentencing and police actions and see things need fixing. That was not the issue at the time of her speech.

If you were not making it a racial issue, then I misunderstood you. If you were, then I think the facts dispute that assertion.

[Wilms]

189. I'm not making it a racial issue.

Some may. And I understand that. If I were AA I'd be a bit uneasy too.

No. It's class warfare. The rich declared war, the first victims are the poorest. Often, that means African Americans.

[Sancho]

194. Maybe, here in the Sunbelt it's not just AA...

in the 60's I picked tobacco alongside migrants. Later, I worked my way through school in SC textile mills. I have relatives who worked their entire lives on small farms or in mill villages as poor whites who were just as exploited as AAs in some ways - even though there was not social discrimination, the economic issues were similar.

I am sure that racism is different from economic opportunity. My parents used the GI bill to be first in their generation to go to college (late 40s). That changed my family forever. Overcoming economic problems is only part of the problem.

Today, the big issue is immigration reform along with continuing discrimination on many fronts. If you solve economic issues it won't create social justice. I've lived that story. To me, the social justice is more pressing. The economic problems will be resolved in most cases as people become aware of them (just like the 2008 meltdown) - maybe not to everyone's satisfaction - but it will be addressed in today's world of internet information.

Social justice is a value that cannot be easily legislated, so that is more difficult. At least our government can represent better values and legislate when possible.

[Wilms]

195. I agree wholeheartedly with your last paragraph.

Racism can't be legislated away.

But when more and more people participate in the economy, there are more interactions between people and races. THAT, I think, helps break down racism.

I've watched racists soften as they got thrown into mixed-race work settings.

[questionseverything]

236. i think the protester understood hc's intent perfectly

and if the "tough on crime" stuff was not supposed to imprison poc, why are the prisons so full of them?

and she still wants to imprison non violent mj users

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/why-is-marijuana-banned-the-real-reason-is-worse-than-you-think/

[bread_and_roses]

208. So that made it OK to call youth "Super-Predators" ?

It was pandering, pure and simple. We had young people growing up in ravaged communities where there were no jobs, the schools were crumbling, schools and homes were running with rats and roaches, children going hungry, no hope, no future (and we still have all this). And somehow THEY were to blame? THEY were "Super-Predators" who were tearing the fabric of society apart? What about the forces that brought about those conditions? What about our complete abandonment of the inner cities?

And I think the effort to paint this as "not racist" is completely specious and disingenuous.

[Sancho]

213. Yes, gang members randomly killing and planning crime sprees were predators...

and if you study the issue, your description is not accurate. We all know the frustration of marginalized youth, but many of these gangs were not simply as you imagine.

Some of the organized gangs were adult criminals with plenty of resources who made a living preying on others - a modern day mafia.

I have personally worked with at least two "youth" who committed murder, and one who was a major felon. Two of the three made a living partially by selling drugs. One was a sophisticated thief. Without revealing identities, I can say that there is a difference between an 18-30 year old professional gang leader who makes a conscious decision to be a criminal, hurt people, and poor youth who have a tough upbringing. All three that I worked with had middle class homes with suburban education, opportunity for college, and family support! Two of the three ended up in jail for life, but many of us knew 10 years before a murder they were dangerous. The third was resilient and reformed after a short jail stay.

Maybe some of the predators started in tough neighborhoods and some did not. Regardless, Hillary was addressing a concern of the time where there was a great increase in crime, and much was gang related. Law enforcement made the choice to go after gang violence specifically at some point.

That's not "pandering", it's just stating the facts. In hindsight 20 years later - its perfectly clear what happened and what Hillary was talking about at the time.

[bread_and_roses]

219. Criminal gangs were nothing new & are still with us now

It was quite clear to many of us at the time that the whole "tough on crime" and "drug gangs" and "drug crime" rhetoric was coded to evoke racial stereotypes. Just like the language of Clinton's "welfare reform."

It was pandering, it was racist, and I think HRC's angry and defensive response shows she knows it too.

[Sancho]

220. I was on the front lines and I disagree...

in fact, many of the worst gangs were not minority.

You can "see" it however you want, but targeting the rising crime wave in the 90s was not targeting minorities. In fact, there was a lot of talk about NOT profiling. It's true that police might be racist, but that was not part of the effort to reduce crime.

HRC has not responded. She clearly said the sign that showed up last week was the first time anyone had mentioned it to here. As such, there has been no "angry" or "defensive" response.

[questionseverything]

243. actually it was about jailing blacks

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511339737

[ellennelle]

237. lead

there is also strongly suggestive evidence that that spike follows the path of kids getting diagnosed with lead poisoning over the years, and the drop coincides with the actions take to delead buildings, monitor blood samples, and treat the kids with chelation, etc.

now we get to see this hypothesis tested in vitro, as it were, with the flint population.

dear gawd help us.

[artislife]

5. Gee, in Seattle, Bernie gave them the mic. nt

[JonLeibowitz]

7. Seems some are more receptive to others' ideas.

Apparently it is called being a progressive, or some such thing.

[artislife]

8. And the crowd wasn't happy as well

but his crowd didn't get to see the protesters hauled out. I wonder what that crowd would have done if the protesters (on camera and off) hadn't been hauled away in less than 2 minutes would have reacted.

[JonLeibowitz]

15. I see your point, but worth mentioning it wasn't 'his crowd' -- he was a guest speaker at another's

event.

[artislife]

22. Oh I know, it was a Medicare Event

I went to the evening event with 12,000 in Seattle. I almost went to Westlake mid day. This one hits pretty close to home. It was the best of times, worse of times...

[JackInGreen]

156. So, Art?

My theory is if the girls protesting bernie had been dragged off, despite the few totally negative voices, would the crowd have turned on the cops?

[artislife]

177. I don't know.

I wasn't in the crowd. I have been to other rallies at Westlake and haven't felt it could turn that way.

But there was the Battle in Seattle, but that was a whole different set up.

This was a rally to hear speakers on Medicare, so it was a slightly older crowd of boomers.

[nashville_brook]

10. And was excorciated for it by the hypocrites who will make excuses for this

[senz]

115. Yes, they will make excuses for this.

They are NOT sincere.

[Marr]

133. +1

[artislife]

17. Raise hands: How many believe this was the first time

that somebody asked her that question?!

She can't help but lie, it is a personality flaw.

[JonLeibowitz]

23. My hand is not raised. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. I can think of amother time she was

and it was also on video... not directly about that specific speech, but mass incarceration, you betcha.

I used the video recently too.

[6chars]

129. Well, it was nice how she then said so she would address it

As the young lady was taken out of the room and then the topic returned to the issues that were important.

[PonyUp]

171. We've heard this before. "I will look into it". n/t

[Go Vols]

212. yep

[thereismore]

202. Exactly. Not raising a hand here. nt

[thereismore]

203. Besides, what kind of a response is that? How many people does it take before she

considers a request like this?

[Betty Karlson]

99. Clinton doesn't give anything, not even a dime, without consulting focus groups and polls first. eom

[PonyUp]

170. Someone wrote Bernie gives them the mic in Seattle. Hillary gives them the Secret Service in SC. nt

[eridani]

176. He did nothing of the sort. The Social Security Works rally organizers gave them the mic

He was due at another event in 15 minutes and had to leave.

[nashville_brook]

6. That Hillary is quite the friend to black folks, you can tell by how

She had her butler gently remove the black person from the exclusive white event.

[BillZBubb]

9. Too true.

Maybe this was her "Sister Souljah" moment! Oops that's supposed to be after you win the nomination.

But, don't worry, her firewall will hold. For the life of me I can't see why it even exists.

[nashville_brook]

16. Time for Hillz to break out the asbestos pantsuit

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. The butler actually is part of her Secret Service detail

[sarge43]

132. Which makes it even worse

The Service is paid by us to protect her life, not her imagine.

The young woman was no threat. That may have been Clinton's 47% moment. We can but hope.

[nadinbrzezinski]

134. I have been saying this all night

here from rock the vote

RockTheVote-Com ‏@0ggles 7m7 minutes ago Palm Harbor, FL
#WhichHillary put Rosa Parks on the back of the H? #BlackLivesMatter #BLM #Hillary2016 @johnlewisretail #Blackish




The twitter has been.... brutal

[artislife]

18. That! Okay, I laughed, I did

[JackBeck]

11. Hissing, followed by comments such as "This is inappropriate" and "You're being rude".

That is a very brave young woman of color speaking truth to power, while other folks around her are being dismissive of what she has to say.

I could create a rather large narrative to instigate outrage on multiple levels at the moment based solely on this video, but I won't. It's right there for everyone to see. Given what this website saw last weekend when mistruths were allowed to spread like wildfire, I'd rather let what occurs in this clip speak for itself.

[nashville_brook]

19. They sound like they're from Downton Abbey

[JackBeck]

27. Seriously. I'm having to censor myself from writing what I truly think about all of this.

[nashville_brook]

34. You and everyone else - and the story only broke

Like a half hour ago.

Oh my.

[JackBeck]

77. My stomach was in knots when the Huerta thing broke last weekend.

I was disappointed that ANY Democratic candidate's supporters would have a reaction like that.

And boy did that powder keg explode on here. Yet when it was proven false, folks still held on to the narrative and wouldn't let it go, and then it morphed into something removed from the original accusation.

Here we have Hillary Clinton and her supporters on video being condescending and dismissive of a BLM protestor and I'm already concerned over how this one will be spun by her supporters not only here, but on other social media platforms.

[nadinbrzezinski]

88. This has the potential of a 47 percent piece of tape

and back then Mittens supporters dug in

[JackBeck]

104. I lived in New York when Clinton was Senator.

I had multiple, off-the-record meetings with her on a variety of issues. Some folks wouldn't believe me if I shared some of the ridiculous things she has said. But since I didn't have any recording device and they were background, my hands are tied.

[nadinbrzezinski]

107. As working media I understand

I got some lovely stories (on background and the things they say) about our local pols too. Some really make you go... did heshe say that? Really

[nashville_brook]

90. i double dog dare a Brock to try and impugn this girl's integrity

right now I bet she's booking shows for tomorrow

[nadinbrzezinski]

100. He just needs a single dare not a double dare

his sleuths are already working overtime and renting the backhoe. Yes they will.

[enigmatic]

108. There's no way he's going to sweep this under the rug or destroy the BLM activist

Without destroying himself and Hillary's campaign.

[nadinbrzezinski]

110. Remember mittens tried

and so did his supporters. But the season just entered a new level of ugly

[enigmatic]

116. And they failed miserably, too

People saw through it immediately.

If anything, this video is even more straight-forward than Mitten's gaffe; his was cluelessness draped in 1 percenter's arrogance; this was downright ugly. And the white folks hissing and heckling Ashley Williams on top of this?

No, there's no way to spin this.

[nadinbrzezinski]

117. Well some of the twitter hashtags

read this (from a black poster by the way)


Joel Fuller
‏@JoelAFuller
#BackToTheIssues @HillaryClinton I guess Black Mass Incarceration is not an issue for you #NotASuperpredator

…

[enigmatic]

97. This is a straight-forward video

of Hillary showing who she really is, to a BLM activist in front of a bunch of white people hissing at her for having the audacity to pay 500 bucks to ask Hillary some Hard Questions.

There's no way to spin this. Brock and his goons attack this young lady and it shows all of them to be who they really are and what they will do to win at all costs.

Again, no way to spin this.

It's Hillary's "47%" or "Macaca" moment, and no amount of spinning or Chris Matthews carrying water for her is going to make this go away.

[JackBeck]

111. I know, I still can't believe my eyes and ears.

It's heartening to see more folks around here already rallying to this young woman's side.

Every single one of your points is spot on, enigmatic.

[arcane1]

114. Exactly! They paid hundreds of dollars but didn't expect to be able to ask questions.

After this, we can all guess what she was telling her high-paying Wall Street audiences, and what they wanted to hear!

[Marr]

137. "Back to the ISSUES...", she says.

Because mass incarceration isn't an issue for any of the country club members in that room. Hell, she's never even been ASKED about it before!

BLM was never in the 'issues' category for Hillary, apparently-- just the 'useful photo ops' category.

[arcane1]

54. Where were they? It looked like a rich white family's living room. Hell, it was the foyer!

[JackBeck]

62. Looks like a mansion to me, or maybe one of those suburban, gaudy event halls

that cost and arm and a leg to rent out.

Regardless, I'm sure the hosts were terribly embarrassed that such riff-raff infiltrated their delicate, elite bubble.

[Divernan]

146. Private mansion in elite Charleston - home of the Slave Market

Two Black Lives Matter activists interrupted a private Hillary Clinton fundraising event Wednesday night in Charleston, South Carolina. Williams said she and a colleague, whom she did not identify, contributed $500 to attend the Clinton event, which was held at a private residence and was attended by around 100 guests.

Williams said she and her colleague strategically placed themselves at the front of the crowd and waited until Clinton appeared. Speakers introducing Clinton around 9:30 p.m. Wednesday night discussed Walter Scott , the Charleston A.M.E. Church shooting and how Clinton had a strong record of racial justice.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-black-lives-matter-south-carolina_us_56ce53b1e4b03260bf7580ca

Googling for Hillary events turned up this invitation to protest at 676 Olde Salt Run. But tracking down this address turned up photos which don't match the photos Williams' provided. Conclusion, HRC is running back to back evening event rundraisers. You can't say she doesn't grift hard for her money!

Next Wednesday February 24th, Hillary Clinton is coming to Charleston SC for an evening fundraiser at 676 Olde Salt Run

Here's a link to real estate info about 676 Olde Salt Run. However the photos of that $2.5 million house don't match up with the photos of the house where this racist event unfolded. I think Hillary is doing back to back fundraisers the same evening. https://www.redfin.com/SC/Mount-Pleasant/687-Olde-Salt-Run-29464/home/103944843
https://greenwire.greenpeace.org/usa/en/events/rally-hillary-clinton-fundraiser-charleston-sc

Charleston was the epitome of the Old South - many magnificent antebellum houses and home of the Old Slave Mart

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Slave_Mart

The Old Slave Mart is a building located at 6 Chalmers Street in Charleston, South Carolina that once housed an antebellum slave auction gallery.[3] Constructed in 1859, the building is believed to be the last extant slave auction facility in South Carolina. In 1975, the Old Slave Mart was added to the National Register of Historic Places for its role in Charleston's African-American history. Today, the building houses the Old Slave Mart Museum.[2][4]

The Old Slave Mart was originally part of a slave market known as Ryan's Mart, which covered a large enclosed lot between Chalmers and Queen streets. The market was established in 1856 by Charleston City Councilman Thomas Ryan, after a citywide ban on public slave auctions made private facilities necessary. Slave auctions were held at the site until approximately 1863; in 1865, the Union Army occupied Charleston and closed Ryan's Mart. The Old Slave Mart Museum has operated on and off since 1938.[4]

[BernieforPres2016]

180. Hillary is going to fire some people over this incident

Those types aren't supposed to get in her private fundraisers in homes of the top 1/10 of 1%. I'll bet there was hell to pay after that fiasco.

Bravo to the brave young woman. I am going to see if there is a Go Fund Me page for people to reimburse her for the $500 her and her friend paid to have access to the Queen.

[Nyan]

73. +1

[AngryAmish]

183. The crowd looks like America

[Merryland]

204. yes, so many levels to this video, it's very powerful

1) a young African American woman speaking truth to power
2) nasty commentary by background people
3) the young woman being touched by several white people, pressed to stop speaking truth to power.
4) the bombast issuing from Mrs. Clinton as she struts around

and more

[99th_Monkey]

12. Congrats to courageous BLM peeps asking for some accountability. n/t

[JonLeibowitz]

20. Fortunately after Secret Service shut her up HRC could get back to the issues she thinks important.

[nashville_brook]

21. Boom goes the DUH-nomite

[artislife]

24. Really, this wasn't a part of her "listening" tour? nt

[Lorien]

44. No, it was $500 a head for one per centers to have the honor

of listening to her. Pay to play, baby!

[artislife]

46. They did pay. They paid full admission. nt

[TheFarS1de]

140. And she did'nt even have the good grace

to answer the query . I guess she meant it when she said she would only talk to white people .

[artislife]

179. Oh snap! nt

[beedle]

192. She can soon this as

Evidence that she is incorruptible ... The girl paid $500, failed to even gain access let alone bribe her. That Hillary, those elites with their 'people of color privilege' aren't going to buy influence over this courageous fighter for the middle class. /snark

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. And the time and place is going viral on the twitter and facebook

have fun... this one has potential...

[HillDawg]

30. Some retweets and shares

Among your fellow Bernie supporters doesn't count as going viral.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. I am not a sanders supporter

nice try.

[HillDawg]

38. Still applies

I'm sure sanders supporters are eating it up, even though there is nothing to it. Not sure what you expected to be done differently. Hillary didn't just throw her out. She was going to talk with her, but the young lady would not listen. Hillary is not just going to let her stand there all night and yell at her. If this gains any media coverage, it won't impact Hillary, because there was nothing done wrong.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. As a poltiical observer this has the potential of a certain 47 percent tape

during the 2012 election. You might remember that one, in case you don't here is a reminder. This is just breaking. Sharpen your talking points.

[grasswire]

76. yep

I expect to see it all over the networks tomorrow.

[nadinbrzezinski]

79. It should, it truly shoud

god this is ugly

from the twitter

JeSuisNotWithHer ‏@RenagadeGirl 4m4 minutes ago
#WhichHillary reminded the world that JFK was assassinated in JUNE as her explanation for staying in the 2008 race while losing to Obama?

OUCH

[askew]

84. Definitely reminds me of that moment.

Incredibly arrogant, tone deaf politician in a room of wealthy, white people. Hillary standing in that expensive foyer while an AA voter asks her to apologize for her racist language and is escorted out. That's going to have some legs.

[nadinbrzezinski]

95. Yup, the one with Boston and BLM was bad

I am point to talk to white people, but this one is worst

[senz]

75. Well dammit, nadin, I wish you were.

You'd be a good one.

[nadinbrzezinski]

78. I am a reporter

so as media who I vote for, is my own damn business. Why at the paper we cover all, the bad, the good, and the ugly. Given where I am... the other side of the Continent, depending how this develops overnight, I might write a story.

I got the feeling that this could be the 47 percent moment of the mittens campaign.

Here is a tweet a couple minutes ago... ouch

Julia Gumm ‏@jujubee_84 4m4 minutes ago
#BLM has pay 2 get into high dollar fundraiser to get HRC's attn. But she throws em out anyway. #WhichHillary?

[senz]

86. Okay, understood.

But I hope you do write a story on it. Love the tweet, too.

[nadinbrzezinski]

92. Depends on wether the stumps grow into legs

but this definitely has stumps growing already. We did run a story on the Boston BLM story and I used the tape recently as well, for another story related to mass incarceration. After all the kids, (I am double their age), went there. So I did go there.

[PonyUp]

174. Thanks for what you do! n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

211. And we did, social media angle taken

http://reportingsandiego.com/2016/02/25/whichhillary-explodes-overnight-could-affect-the-clinton-campaign/

[Fantastic Anarchist]

57. Well, you can always tell BLM to "heel" ....

... and see if that works for ya.

[nadinbrzezinski]

60. I will get to the edge and watch

I am not getting in the middle of that one

[Fantastic Anarchist]

68. LOL ... no doubt!

[The Redheaded Guy]

169. May I join you? I'll bring the gourmet popcorn if that's your thing.

I like triple cheddar myself...

[nadinbrzezinski]

210. Cool, what is your poison to drink

[The Redheaded Guy]

214. Hemlock....

I prefer with a hint of Diet Coke

[nadinbrzezinski]

215. LMAO

I was thinking more like Whiskey

[The Redheaded Guy]

217. Not a whiskey aficando.

Single malt scotch has been an experience for me. Dad left me all these liquor bottles. We even have a unopened 1940 or something single malt scotch that we are saving to pass down. By then it should be terrific.

[nadinbrzezinski]

218. We honestly do not drink... so this is kind of funny

and about those bottles, I know, I have one that I will pass down... I suppose. It will never get opened

[grasswire]

63. yep, it's all over the place

and to the poster above who got a hide for calling the young woman who protested "that chick"...............damn, that's ugly verbiage.

[nadinbrzezinski]

66. Nothing surprises me any more

I should go to bed, but need to see where this is going overnight.

[JackBeck]

32. Curious, when do you think is the appropriate time?

And in what venue do you think is the appropriate place for this activist to voice their concerns?

[HillDawg]

33. How about in a setting

Where:

A.) Her voice is actually more heard, like s public setting. This was clearly an event where doing something like that was not going to do much anyway.

And

B.) In a manner that let HillDawg respond. Hillary was willing to discuss with her, but the lady just continued to just shout over her. What the hell else did you expect to happen? Hillary just let me girl stand there and shout at her all night?

[nashville_brook]

42. She BROKE THE INTERNET with the video

You might not have noticed but YouTube has been hosed up since this was posted at HuffPo. It's only now starting to get populated on other servers.

So, she met her objective and Hillary FAILED miserably, assuming no one was filming. Acting as if no one was watching but the DONORS.

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. Jesus, that is why I could not download it earlier?

Thanks

[CBGLuthier]

49. C. In a setting where there are no cameras and she doesn't have to release the transcripts.

[Kittycat]

74. Does HRC have rallies?

Serious question. I thought she just did small town hall-like events, and speaking engagements.

[JackBeck]

50. You mean like the legislative meeting with Clinton I attended with a room full of women of color

where she promised us that she was going to vote the right way on the welfare reform reauthorization bill back in 2002? And then she signed on to the most conservative version and basically lied to our faces?

Those avenues have been exhausted and I respect BLM using similar tactics that ACT-UP did in the 80's and 90's to hold people in power accountable for their awful legislative decisions and dragging their feet while folks are dying.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

65. She should have told her to "heel" ...

Maybe she would have known her place, then.

[berniepdx420]

69. care to explain the " super predator " thing... ???

[grasswire]

82. it's Hillary's words...

....when she was advocating for Bill's get tough on crime legislation. She talked about the unruly young urban people as "super predators" and how they should be "brought to heel"

[berniepdx420]

96. Thanks grasswire... but I was trying to get Hilldawg's opinion on the term "super predator" ... ???

[nadinbrzezinski]

101. He got his post hidden

so he can't answer on this thread

[berniepdx420]

102. oh.. thanks...

[askew]

89. Hillary's had BLM protestors escorted out of her public events more than once.

And she is always surrounded by staffers, Secret Service and reporters. This was the best way to ask this question. And the BLM activist wasn't rude. She asked Hillary a question which Hillary didn't answer and kept dodging.

[passiveporcupine]

144. I could barely make out what she was saying.

She was NOT shouting.

[Warren DeMontague]

25. you know how I can tell that this interruption is not okay?

because Bernie Sanders isn't standing there.

[arcane1]

61. Right? And they're all talking about how it "should" be done instead.

Credibility = 0.00

[AzDar]

28. This young lady is very brave... HRC has a LOT to answer for...

She's 'looking into it', I'm sure...

[BlueCaliDem]

36. So does Bernie. Look up Brisenia Flores.

[Lorien]

43. Don't even go there.

You'll just embarrass yourself. Seriously.

[BlueCaliDem]

53. Just did.

[hedda_foil]

55. Brisenia was a sweet little Arizona girl who was murdered with her father by a border vigilante

How can you possibly try to imply a connection between Bernie Sanders and this true American tragedy?

[BlueCaliDem]

59. Like I said, look her up and read who did the murdering.

And they weren't just a border vigilante group. They were a protected racist vigilante group. I would post more but Bernie supporters have already silenced me before when I had, so forgive me if I won't do it again until after the primaries.

[passiveporcupine]

149. Your meme is not true

So, a Hillary supporter said:

The Hillary supporter replied with this: "He voted no on the bill yet he voted in favor of an amendment that would allow militias to operate in the border without fear of federal prosecution." And he posted this link to the Congressional record:

www.congress.gov/...

Concerning the amendment 971 to HR6551

Rep. Sabo, the only Democrat to speak on the amendment at all, said this:

"We are told by Customs and Border Control that this amendment has no effect on its operation because it only shares information when required by international treaty, the same as what this amendment says. So to the best of my knowledge, this amendment simply restates what is policy. If people want to put it in the bill, I guess that is OK because it merely restates policy."

The amendment itself reads:

"None of the funds made available by this act may be used to provide a foreign government information related to the activities of an organized volunteer civilian action group as defined by DHS OIC-06 -4, operating in the state of California, Texas, New Mexico, or Arizona, unless required by international treaty."

It has nothing to do with federal prosecution of said militants.

I might also add that even if this amendment had not been added to the bill, it would not have made a difference in the death of Brisenia Flores...it was not done by illegal immigrants crossing the border, it had nothing to do with anyone warning (or not) of Mexico of where vigilante militant groups were operating in the US. It had absolutely nothing to do with Mexico.

The responsible woman, Shawna Forde, who started her own little splinter vigilante group, after she was kicked out of Minutemen Civil Defense Corps, was a criminal and her 2nd in command had possible connections to the Aryan Nation. They were killing Americans as presumed drug dealers so they could finance a 40 acre land purchase to start their own little militant base on. This woman was a mental case with delusions of grandeur, but failure to approve this amendment could not have prevented what she did, nor did it protect her group from prosecution. This whole story is bullshit.

Oh,and here is a story by DKos on this too:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/02/19/1487614/-Did-You-See-a-Hillary-Campaign-Slam-That-Bernie-Voted-to-Protect-Militias-from-Lawsuits-It-s-a-Lie

[BlueCaliDem]

198. The meme remains true no matter how you wish to deny it.

The racist vigilante border group, the Minutemenm should've been prosecuted, not protected by the U.S. Gov't, as they acted like anti-Mexican armed vigilantes of which three members eventually ended the life of a 9-year-old Mexican-American girl. Whether Forde was no longer a member of the Minutemen Project or the leader of a splintered group thereof...it makes no difference since she adopted the name.

What's also glaring about that amendment is, much like the racist vigilante group, it only covers the southern border, not the northern. This bill should have covered ALL borders so as not to give the appearance of being discriminatory and anti-Latino, which it does now.

The language in the amendment prohibited notifications of activity only in California, Texas, New Mexico and Arizona - all States on the Mexican border. No such prohibition applied to groups operating in the border states of Alaska, Washington, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Minnesota, Michigan, New York, New Hampshire, Maine or Sanders' home state, Vermont.

Maybe it might not have made a difference in Brisenia's death, but you have to admit, the optics are not good. Combine that vote with his vote against the 2007 comprehensive immigration reform bill and his vote and actively lobbying for the Texas-Vermont-Maine Compact, and something doesn't look right. If people are going to hold Hillary Clinton accountable for something she said back in 1996, then it's fair game to hold her rival accountable for what he voted for in 1998, 2006, and 2007.

[passiveporcupine]

233. No, she did not adopt the name

She started her own little group and gave it a different name. Minuteman American Defense. the group she was kicked out of was Minutemen Civil Defense Corps.

From the wiki, concerning the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps.

Simcox states that the group merely reports incidents to law enforcement, and does not directly confront immigrants. There is a standard operating procedure (SOP) that must be followed by Minutemen volunteers. Rules include not speaking to, approaching, gesturing towards or having physical contact in any way with any suspected border crossers they may see.[3] The organization has been criticized as being a right-wing militia.[4] The MCDC is often confused with or thought to be affiliated with The Minuteman Project Inc., but the two groups are wholly distinct.[5] The group was originally co-founded by American neo-Nazi, J. T. Ready

In 2010 the President (Mercer) of the group sent out an incendiary letter to the group saying:

This March we return to the border locked, loaded and ready to stop each and every individual we encounter along the frontier that is now more dangerous than the frontier of Afghanistan."

but got such a "dramatic" response that she 'called for the dissolution of the group on March 23.'

The group is gone. And they may have collected weird militant type people with a vengeance against illegals, but they are not responsible for what Shawna did after she was kicked out of the group, I can only assume, for being too "dramatic" and not willing to follow orders. She wanted to do her own thing. Kinda like the two militants who were kicked out of the Bundy group and then shot and killed two cops and a person at Walmart before they killed themselves (or were killed by police...can't remember how that ended). They were nuts. Were the Bundy group dangerous? Probably, but not crazy like those two and they are not responsible for what they did after they kicked them out.

Why does it cover only the southern border? Partly, and especially, because there was evidence that the border guards were giving info to Mexico about where these militant groups were, to help illegals from being intercepted. At the time a lot of people were for this because illegals crossing the border was a big problem. Has it been the same thing for the Northern border? Do we have Northern border guards who have been helping people sneak into the US? Haven't heard of it. Canada has a good thing going up there and they have a better standard of living that we do, so why would people migrate here. But our economic policies (maybe mostly under Clinton) had a lot to do with economic problems in Mexico that left a lot of people scrambling for the border for a way to support their families. And then there is the war on drugs. A shameful legacy for all Presidents involved.

Was the amendment discriminatory? It can be perceived that way...but there was and is a legitimate problem on the Southern border that does not exist at the Northern border, so congress was addressing a specific problem. A lot of congressmen from the states affected by that border, and nearby states with large populations of immigrants, were trying to find ways to stop the influx of immigrants and drugs, and they felt the feds were not helping them, so they were willing to accept the help of the militant group. The militant groups were not threatening or hurting anyone, except for this one crazy loon woman who was kicked out for being too extreme.

But again, the amendment did not change anything, except to state in the new bill what was already supposed to be policy of the Border Control. We don't have that problem at the Northern border. Agreed the amendment might look better if it addressed all borders, but it addressed the problems the congress was dealing with at the time. that does not make anyone guilty of a crazy woman's crime. It also had zilch to do with prosecution or protection from prosecution of any group for any reason.


There were all kinds of kooks screaming about terrorists crossing our borders. They were probably far more responsible for the militant groups activities than anyone. And many if not most of those were not politicians. Those threats turned out to be unfounded...but it takes time for people to deal with fears like that. Americans (especially in the south, I gather) have a lot of fears of terrorists sneaking in this country.

for example:

For example, in 2005, rumors were frequently published on a popular web media outlet claiming that al Qaeda had smuggled several tactical nuclear devices into the United States with the help of the Salvadoran Mara Salvatrucha street gang. According to the rumors, al Qaeda was planning to launch a horrific surprise nuclear attack against several U.S. cities in what was termed "American Hiroshima." Clearly this never happened.

https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/examining-terrorist-threat-americas-southern-border

And remember who was our President just five months prior to this event...and during the rise of the militia groups protecting the border...the man who attacked Iraq for 9/11. He did not help the tone of fear in this country, about terrorism and drugs. The war on drugs really amplified the southern border problems. We did not have people smuggling tons of drugs across the Canada border. They were coming across the Southern border. And who is responsible for the war on drugs? Not Bernie. That started in '71 with Nixon, and and got ramped up by Reagan, both Bushes and Clinton (policies were even continued by Ford and Carter). It wasn't until 2011 that there was any resistance to the war on drugs as a failed policy. All the drug war did was make it even worse for Southern border states who now had battles going on over drugs...many citizens were terrified. That all affected congress' decisions on the National Security bill and influenced the people who signed off on the amendment that didn't really appear to change anything.

Did that amendment turn out to affect immigration and drug policies or how they were handled? I cannot see any affect it has had...but the war on drugs was the biggest problem behind it, and I don 't see your outrage at the people who participated in that, like the Clintons. You are blaming the wrong people (all those who agreed with the seemingly innocuous amendment and passed the National Security bill that needed to be passed) for the girl's death. And it's a pretty nasty smear to try to lay at Bernie's feet. About par with accusing Clinton's of Vince Foster's death. And the article you are all using to beef up this meme, written by Spandan Chakrabarti from his supposedly progressive blog "The People's View", yeah, right...the guy who apologizes for chained CPI? That Spandan Chakrabarti? The guy who consistently attacks the progressive movement. Yeah, you've got a real good cheerleader there. The guy who was against Obama before he was for Obama...I thought you guys loved Obama (I do too, but that's not the issue here). The guy using every Hill meme out there to attack Sanders...the memes that actually hold no water.

Stop with this garbage. You do yourself no favors and you do embarrass yourself when you continue this crap.

I will say it again. Bernie has a race problem. ~Spandan Chakrabarti

He's got a problem alright...but it's not racial. It's Hillary supporters.

[BlueCaliDem]

234. She adopted Minutemen, yes? You noted as much in your long post. So yeah, she did, and I don't

give a damn what prefixes or suffixes were used to change it. She identified with the Minutemen and they were all racist and murderers and White supremacists. So that changes nada.

I'm not going to debate details with you on this issue. We both known that the Minutemen Project was (and still is) a racist, xenophobic southern border group that hated Mexicans, and their one goal was to ensure no more brown people entered this country - even to the point that they'd be shot. You can rationalize (excuse) them all you want, but fact remains, Mexican-Americans believe that the Minutemen Project was nothing but a bunch of closeted White supremacists and Latino-hating bigots pretending to be patriots.

Thank god the Minutemen imploded within itself.

But when you vote for a Republican bill and Republican amendment that gives ANY degree of protection to a border racist vigilante group - making them official - then you're on the wrong side. Period.

We're not even going to discuss his votes on the Texas-Vermont-Maine Compact or his vote against the 2007 immigration reform bill that contained an earlier version of the DREAMact because of the guest worker language that, lo and behold, was also in the 2013 immigration reform bill - the one he voted for (with an eye on running for president, of course). Coincidence? How do you explain those votes away?

So how about you stop making excuses for him. No one is going to buy them, and it's embarrassing YOU.

And Spandan is correct about Bernie having a race problem - how prophetic, huh? - as we now see. Bernie can't - and won't - get the Latino OR Black vote and will have to rely on the angry Anglo-American vote...which translates into...he will NOT get the nomination.

As a person of color I say, just desserts.

[passiveporcupine]

238. They were?

She identified with the Minutemen and they were all racist and murderers and White supremacists. So that changes nada.

Where are your links that this border patrol groups were murderers? I agree the were probably all racists, or the would not have been doing what they were doing. They may have all been white supremacists...but that doesn't make them all murderers.

But when you vote for a Republican bill and Republican amendment that gives ANY degree of protection to a border racist vigilante group

It didn't. Flat out didn't. It had nothing to do with protecting anything or anybody, other than the US.

We're not even going to discuss his votes on the Texas-Vermont-Maine Compact or his vote against the 2007 immigration reform bill that contained an earlier version of the DREAMact because of the guest worker language that, lo and behold, was also in the 2013 immigration reform bill - the one he voted for (with an eye on running for president, of course). Coincidence? How do you explain those votes away?

I'll look into it. I haven't had time. Never even heard of the TVM compact. But from my bad memory, I'm thinking this is again incorrect memes that are based on lies. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. After I investigate it.

I don't care what your skin color is. It has nothing to do with this discussion, which should be based on truth and facts, but so far has not been, coming from you.

[BlueCaliDem]

35. If I were cynical, I'd say the so-called BLM woman was a Bernie supporter.

Is she a BLMer?

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. Actually yes she is

Here is her blog

http://www.museumofthenewsouth.org/media-center/blog/ask-an-activist-ashley-williams

And in case you wonder, BLM is not impressed with Clinton either.

[Lorien]

41. Yet another $500 a ticket private event

because Hillary doesn't like to mingle with the riff raff.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

47. Back to the issues.

Means "You're getting in the way of my coronation. Now heel!"

[pa28]

48. Last time she encountered BLM she said she would only talk to white people.

Looks like she meant it.

Hillary Clinton: 'I Will Talk Only to White People ...'
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/32028-focus-hillary-clinton-i-will-talk-only-to-white-people-

[nadinbrzezinski]

56. Yup here is the video

[jeff47]

207. Well, this is who she talked to after the protest.

[Babel_17]

209. I hadn't seen that. Ouch!

As nadinbrzezinski observed, this story is growing legs, and photos like that going viral will accelerate that growth.

[arcane1]

51. Clinton and her small audidence shush and hiss a BLM protester.

Please defend and justify this, hypocrites.

[berniepdx420]

52. That took a lot of courage.. good for her !!!

[desmiller]

58. Looks like the past are coming back to haunt her in form of a protester. It's just a matter of time

before Ring of Fire picks this up.

[Juicy_Bellows]

91. I fell into a bernin ring of fire!

And it berns berns berns.

Edit - and it will get picked by a lot of places I'd imagine.

[desmiller]

105. Berns like hellfire, but

this is the only type of hellfire i find soothing

[Juicy_Bellows]

109. Exposed wounds burn like hell, don't they?

Cheers.

[TheLogicalSong]

64. Not very diplomatic.

Which is concerning, since she was the nation's top diplomat for several years.

[grasswire]

70. she was quite snotty, I thought. nt

[JackBeck]

72. I wonder if she calls Angela Merkel "dear". n/t

[grasswire]

83. the amusing part is that she READ THE SIGN herself...

....out loud to the crowd before she realized what it said.

[senz]

93. I know, funny. Karma was doing a little happy dance.

[askew]

98. That was the best part. Ha!

But, truthfully we saw the real Hillary in that video just like we saw the real Mitt in the 47% video. And if the media actually plays this video for the general public, it will really really hurt her. She was smug, condescending and dismissive.

[draa]

112. Seriously?

Hahaha, that's too damn funny. And not very self aware I might add.

[grasswire]

113. yes, watch the video

It's comedy gold at that point.

[Art_from_Ark]

123. "I'll be happy to address that issue"

Obviously, she wasn't all that happy.

[islandmkl]

155. but first, I have the pressing matter of some speeches I had to look into...

[enigmatic]

80. Appalling

But not surprising.

It's going to be Hillary's "47%" moment and yes, it's being spread far and wide on twitter and Facebook as we speak.

[senz]

81. Where are all our valiant AAs?

They usually weigh in on these matters.

[phleshdef]

85. I support Bernie. I didn't like it when this kind of thing was done to him and I don't like it...

...being done to her.

But man am I gonna miss Obama, he can handle these situations better than anyone.

[grasswire]

87. I hope we get to know this young woman's name.

She is quite brave for calling out the most powerful woman in the world.

[nadinbrzezinski]

103. Here

http://www.museumofthenewsouth.org/media-center/blog/ask-an-activist-ashley-williams

Huffpost broke the story by the way

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-black-lives-matter-south-carolina_us_56ce53b1e4b03260bf7580ca

[arcane1]

106. Ashley Williams

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511333301

[Oilwellian]

122. Indeed

[MisterP]

124. Ashley Williams!

[Betty Karlson]

94. Good for them.

Shame on her.

[enigmatic]

118. .

[link:|

[arcane1]

121. Sanders is filling stadiums but she can't even fill a resiential atrium.

[The Redheaded Guy]

182. It's a high dollar fundraiser

$250 was the minimum to get in (She and a friend paid $500).

It's said around 100 showed up. That's just her gas money for the week. $250,000.

[Oilwellian]

119. How unfortunate for Hillary's campaign

This looks really bad.

[SamKnause]

120. I find Hillary to be extremely hateful and condescending.

Of course those in attendance sided with Hillary.

2 thumbs up for the BLM activist !!!!

[grasswire]

126. she did sound horrible in that unguarded moment

Compare that snide tone with that new commercial where she is all sugar plums.

[loyalsister]

125. white supremacy in action

The way people applauded as she was escorted out brought me to tears.
The demand for an apology is exactly what Hillary (and Bill) need to hear. And they need to take it further if they are going to heal the wounds.


Hillary Clinton Should Ask for Black America's Forgiveness Before She Asks for its Vote

Whether we look at "The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act " signed by President Clinton in 1994, a piece of legislation which led to more black men being incarcerated than we had seen in all of America's dark history, which is saying a lot. Or, the Telecommunications Act of 1996 which nearly gutted black media ownership by removing caps on corporate media ownership. The Clinton era was marked by a reality of setbacks for African Americans that are too often understated, and are best summed up by Michelle Alexander, author of the bestseller "The New Jim Crow".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/antonio-moore/hillary-clinton-should-as_b_9238064.html

[grasswire]

127. to say nothing of welfare "reform" nt

[loyalsister]

138. Yep

I think nearly every second of that clip has a very revealing meaning. The narcissism, the dismissive attitude, and those horrible people she so wants to get back to talking with. She seemed to be very smug when she thought she found the right words to use when she talked down to that woman.
It is burned in my brain as the image of the real Hillary Clinton. Definitely a 47% moment.

[enigmatic]

143. The only thing I can think of is that they didn't realize they were on video

as it was happening. I won't say that's the only thing that makes sense because we saw what Hillary was capable of the last time BLM tried to talk to her but the whole scene from Hillary's dismissiveness, condescension, and that "Back to the issues" line, coupled w/ the all-white rich crowd hissing and jeering Ashley Williams and the other BLM activist as they were thrown out after paying 500 bucks just to get in is just.....wow.

I still can't believe what I saw.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

152. They figured out how it would go down.

And the smartest thing they did was make sure there was video of it, not just her going alone, or her and her friend protesting. Without the video, they'd be labeled liars if they tried to disseminate their version of events.

[JimDandy]

187. There's no way Clinton knew there was video. Was probably some type of glasses/button spy camera.

It picked up the sound pretty good too, except for the very last thing Ms Williams said to Clinton, because her back was turned to it then.

[Autumn]

130. Wow.

[mikehiggins]

131. This is incredible. Everyone who can should copy this snippet of video.

I'm pretty sure you're going to see it a lot though maybe not on CNN or MSNBC.

[enigmatic]

136. No way MSNBC or CNN isn't playing this in a loop

Even they can't hide this.

[John Poet]

139. Kicking.

I guess you just have to know the "right way" to interpret these types of events.

Bad Reaction: Bernie hands them the microphone
Good Reaction: Hillary ignores, and SS removes protesters


No... Hillary kind of blew it here.

[Ino]

142. View of people at this event...

[JackBeck]

147. At the :25 mark, you can see someone try to pull Ashley's protest sign from her

before she has even uttered a word.

Gotta protect Hillary's beautiful mind from having to come face-to-face with her own words.

[Laughing Mirror]

150. Then to be strong-armed out of range

so Clinton can "get back to the issues that" she thinks "are important."

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

154. While Her Majesty looks on in disdain. nt

[Laughing Mirror]

158. "You are the first one to ask me, dear."

I loved that "dear." Quite revealing to a woman who was not expecting that question and had no response to give. The response being to delete the question by removing the questioner and move onto the "important" matters.

[Fairgo]

161. Ooooh creepy

Get your fucking hands off me...

[Ino]

191. A woman wearing a long black sleeve...

I'm going to guess it's the woman on the right with her hand over her mouth.

Edited: Nope, I'm going to take that back. Not her.

[Warren DeMontague]

148. Where's the #bowdownhillary hashtag? The outrage at her supporters' display of white privilege?

Hmmm, weird

[mariawr]

151. Kick. nt

[SMC22307]

247. The mouth that roared is on timeout yet again.

I'm sure she would have introduced #bowdownhillary to DU. SURE.

[forjusticethunders]

153. "Now back to the issues."

In my mind, Hillary Clinton effectively said black lives do not matter.

[polly7]

199. "The issues that are important". nt.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

157. Rates a big old yawn over in

one of our DU groups.

I have NEVER seen this level of concern relating to anything concerning blacks on DU before. In fact, and I may be foggy about this, but I remember when BLM interrupted Bernie Sanders at an event and the responses here were...problematic. Fast forward to yesterday and Hillary gives an, admittedly, less than stellar response to a BLM activist, and they're apoplectic. They now stand in solidarity with BLM, and have posted 15 threads to prove it.

Bernie, many months ago, getting his first introduction or two to BLM stumbled, then recovered nicely and went on in fact to meet with CampaignZero and hammer out the start of a racial justice platform. Most Bernie supporters came around to supporting BLM as soon as they saw it wasn't just a political attack on one candidate as Hillary met with BLM in a back room, tells them 'she'll only listen to whites'.

Fast forward months, and I guess she proves she meant it, 'Now back to important issues'.

But it's just amusing to her supporters...

[PeteSelman]

160. The horror! Saying we should end the scourge of drug cartels and gangs.

As a Bernie supporter, I have to once again step in and say how stupid this line of attack is. There are so many legitimate things to go after Hillary on and something as inane and stupid as this is the focus. Her comments in 1996 are not inappropriate at all.

Who the hell disagrees that bringing cartels and gangs to heel is a bad thing?

Seriously.

As absurd as the attacks on Sanders as a racist are, so too is this.

[forjusticethunders]

190. Clinton was playing dogwhistle politics.

Read a few things from Lee Atwater sometime. (For the sake of his immortal soul, I do hope his deathbed repentance of the vile shit he said and did was genuine)

[PeteSelman]

197. I disagree.

I know all about Atwater and I don't see this as one of his tactics. Just how is anyone supposed to talk about crime? Some things just are what they are on their face.

[Bluenorthwest]

224. Easy, you don't use the word 'kids' if you are talking about irredeemable killers who need to be

brought to heel. Talk about criminals by talking about their crimes, not by calling them kids repeatedly and dismissing adult societal responsibility toward them by saying 'we can talk about that later, first bring them to heel'.

I was in Los Angeles at that time, I know exactly what she meant and who she was pandering to with that crap.

[PeteSelman]

228. Why? Do you know anything about L.A. Gangs?

The combat soldiers are hardcore, irredeemable killers by the time they're 13, 14, 15 years old. Not all gang members are military but those who are would certainly be classified that way.

It doesn't matter, you're going to see it as you want.

[Warren DeMontague]

229. ...Because the laws against "cartels" ended up filling our prisons with pot smokers?

[kgnu_fan]

163. brave

[RedCappedBandit]

164. Can anyone tell what question she asked that Hillary said nobody has asked before? nt

[PonyUp]

178. I googled "ashley williams + BLM + Hillary" and got 336,000 hits. n/t

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

184. Morning Joe about to discuss after commercial break.

The framing? "Is it fair game to bring up something Hillary said 20 years ago?"

[ybbor]

186. There is a strange absence in this thread

Where are all of those folks who told us how Bernie and his supporters handled his situations so poorly and actually in racially charged ways last summer?

They sure as hell had a whole lot to say then, and that's when Bernie actually let them have the mic to say what they wanted to say. No one was forcibly removed from his events, and I sure as hell heard no hissing. Hissing? Really?

Your silence is deafening.

I guess it just speaks to your real character.

Good luck with that.

[Bluenorthwest]

225. The presence of their absence demonstrates the difference between advocacy and exploitation of

issues.

[ybbor]

230. So very true

Maybe that's why they prefer her, they are opportunists. When convenient for their best interests they act.

I am mystified by the lack of meme thrown out yet. I have been offline for a few hours, and am replying to you before looking, but earlier there really was no rebuttal.

Perhaps they are too busy talking about the issues that are important.

[Sunlei]

193. She has to speak about the 'for profit' prison Industry our Gov. Fed & State allows & funds.

For over 100 years now, the 13th amendment has been used to keep slavery legal in America.

[Waiting For Everyman]

196. The focus should be the protester's MESSAGE

more than the fact that she protested. She did it beautifully! Exactly as it should be done.

But the POINT is the mass incarceration and the private prison industry, which black people don't seem to EVEN KNOW ABOUT. This is a protest to get that message out. The comment about super-predators was made by HRC while promoting Bill's crime bill, which created the prison conditions we see today.

People will be voting on Saturday in SC who don't know about the Clintons' involvement with this, and their double-dealing with the black community. There's a lot of interest on social media but it needs to be more and to break through on the MSM. Help this brave protester out and give it more push, any that you can.

Use #WhichHillary on Twitter. The protester had it on her sign and people are using it. I don't mean to sound bossy, just trying to help.


Edit: Just now I see the video picture on MSNBC, but with a reporter saying typical generalized talking points over it rather than playing the video. It needs more push.

[JimDandy]

235. Bless you for that!!

...the POINT is the mass incarceration and the private prison industry...This is a protest to get that message out...

That is a point all by itself. This dire problem must be solved, regardless of who becomes president. And Blacks are very aware of this problem--it affects their families and communities daily. With the prison industry, Black is the new $Green$.

People will be voting on Saturday in SC who don't know about the Clintons' involvement with this, and their double-dealing with the black community.

Please keep in mind that this is not an either/or situation. We can wage two battles: a short-term one to make it known that we are certain that the Clinton's, the people who had a large part in creating the current problem, are not the right ones to get us out of it; and a longer-term, problem-solving endeavor.

[nadinbrzezinski]

239. It is getting more push

[PonyUp]

200. Unreal. n/t

[yourpaljoey]

205. ROH ROH!

[olddots]

206. I see the people in that house , her doners

and I see people I have nothing in common with .Nothing .

[Beacool]

216. I figured that someone would bring that over here.

Did Hillary say in that short segment of her original speech that every young person was a "super-predator"? Nope, she mentioned a few people who had no conscience or remorse. In 1989 there had been a terrible attack on a young woman in Central Park. She was attacked by 16 mostly AA and Latino youths. Not only was the attack brutal, the young woman almost died and left her with permanent damage, what shocked people was the aftermath. A number of these teenagers felt no remorse whatsoever, it was "fun", they said. They only felt bad about being caught, but didn't recognize the damage done to the victim. There was a lot of talk and much speculation about these young people. How do you reform a person who seems not to have a concept of right and wrong?

Five of these youths were tried and convicted. The conviction was later overturned because police and prosecutors had deliberately engaged in misconduct. They later on sued in civil court and won a $40M settlement.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

223. I'm loving all these Sanders's fans suddenly pretending to care about racism. I thought they were

more concerned with class, not race.

Suddenly when it comes to HRC's racism in 2008 and beyond, it's really racism that they care about? I call bullshit!

(Note: Both campaigns are pretending to care about black people. Yes, BOTH! Many black people are well aware of how both campaigns are exploiting race and pretending to care about race/racism by using black surrogates. This is something that we notice and fully understand is happening.)

[Beacool]

248. Exactly, when it comes to politics, everyone is a hypocrite.

In states that have a lot of Hispanics, TX, CA, AZ & NM, they care about the Hispanic vote. In states that have lots of AA, like SC and the rest of the SEC states, they pander to AA. In FL they talk about Social Security and Medicare. The whole thing is a game.

[merkins]

221. K&R!

[EndElectoral]

226. Let me answer...ok, throw her out..now, back to the issues.

[Enthusiast]

231. Kicked and recommended!

[Dont call me Shirley]

232. I am not a superpredator. I stand with Black Lives Matter.

[Galraedia]

240. This is stupid.

Kweisi Mfume and the Congressional Black Caucus supported and overwhelmingly voted for the Violent Crime and Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, so how is Hillary Clinton to blame for the mass incarceration of black people?

[whereisjustice]

241. Hillary droning on and on about bullshit that she doesn't believe and no one in the room

believes. They just want to be near money and power. God help us, what a horrible candidate DNC has chosen for us.

[jwirr]

242. I wish to thank this young woman for standing up to power.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

244. why was she ushered out? That man has his hands on her!