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berniepdx420

(1,784 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:39 AM Feb 2016

BLM Activists Ashley Williams talks about confronting hillary clinton

Black Lives Matter Activists Interrupt Hillary Clinton At Private Event In South Carolina

They wanted her to account for some of her past statements on racial justice.
02/24/2016 10:36 pm ET | Updated 40 minutes ago


Two Black Lives Matter activists interrupted a private Hillary Clinton fundraising event Wednesday night in Charleston, South Carolina.

Youth activist Ashley Williams demanded that the Democratic presidential candidate account for inconsistencies in her record on race, specifically around comments she made about crime in 1996.

Williams said she and a colleague, whom she did not identify, contributed $500 to attend the Clinton event, which was held at a private residence and was attended by around 100 guests.

Williams said she and her colleague strategically placed themselves at the front of the crowd and waited until Clinton appeared. Speakers introducing Clinton around 9:30 p.m. Wednesday night discussed Walter Scott, the Charleston A.M.E. Church shooting and how Clinton had a strong record of racial justice.

As Clinton spoke to the crowd, Williams stood to her side and held a sign quoting controversial statements Clinton made in 1996 in reference to at-risk youth, when she said "we have to bring them to heel."


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BLM Activists Ashley Williams talks about confronting hillary clinton (Original Post) berniepdx420 Feb 2016 OP
Do you remember how roundly hated they were here just a couple months ago? Lots of us do. bettyellen Feb 2016 #1
Nope - I won't ever forget that MaggieD Feb 2016 #21
Do We Remember How.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #23
Sanders didn't let them speak - the event organizers did MaggieD Feb 2016 #29
Which event are we talking about? Bradical79 Feb 2016 #45
You need to view the video of Sanders getting Interrupted By LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #65
Posting an article that shows how this young woman was treated by Hillary and her supporters notadmblnd Feb 2016 #61
Of course one of the reasons Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #26
"BLM: Bernie gave them the mic; Hillary showed them the door." n/t JimDandy Feb 2016 #27
Bernie didn't give them the mic - the event organizers did MaggieD Feb 2016 #35
"grabbed the mic from Sanders" The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #46
This is a bold faced lie. N/T Krytan11c Feb 2016 #50
This isn't ancient history. We know what happened so revision won't work here Arazi Feb 2016 #69
kick kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #52
Different variations of this are going around the net. JimDandy Feb 2016 #55
Scarlet being Scarlet. Downwinder Feb 2016 #2
I hope they got their money back! n/t californiabernin Feb 2016 #3
I think it was money well spent passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #13
We should all kick in to pay for her tickets. panader0 Feb 2016 #62
Say her name. grasswire Feb 2016 #4
Again Downwinder Feb 2016 #5
"I want to know which Hillary is running for President, the one from ’96, ’08, or a new Hillary?" 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #6
That has been asked repeteadly on the twitter nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #7
she's got guts. I admire that in anyone but this is at a level that roguevalley Feb 2016 #10
You bet she's got guts enigmatic Feb 2016 #16
Well she needs to work on her accuracy a bit MaggieD Feb 2016 #36
From the horse's mouth herself.. The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #47
None of the above. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #15
Hilli Vanilli Hillary.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #24
That's the key part Mufaddal Feb 2016 #80
Isn't that the truth! TM99 Feb 2016 #85
Video Oilwellian Feb 2016 #8
The crowd hissing is disgusting. Juicy_Bellows Feb 2016 #9
The hissing is beyond the pale enigmatic Feb 2016 #11
We all know this. Indeed. Juicy_Bellows Feb 2016 #12
I felt like I was watching an outtake from "The Help" MgtPA Feb 2016 #38
I was going to ask same thing, "Who the fuck hisses?" autonomous Feb 2016 #75
Booing is for the little people EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #79
Back to the issues, Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #18
I am so proud of Ashley Williams monicaangela Feb 2016 #54
The condescension and arrogance. TM99 Feb 2016 #86
"Williams said the Secret Service threw her out out of the event." Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #14
I highly doubt they "threw" her anywhere MaggieD Feb 2016 #20
For the the life of me I cannot understand why someone who is a Democratic voter be for Hillary? fourcents Feb 2016 #41
Many conservatives have infiltrated the Party. Broward Feb 2016 #53
And socialists. grossproffit Feb 2016 #70
You just proved my point. Broward Feb 2016 #83
Really? Did Ms Williams threaten Clinton? sarge43 Feb 2016 #22
Brave woman! Matariki Feb 2016 #17
I believe she was in the wrong room for that monicaangela Feb 2016 #57
And yet her supporters will not swarm the Internet with nasty stuff about AA MaggieD Feb 2016 #19
wow...stunning post maggieD... berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #31
Isn't that something? notadmblnd Feb 2016 #66
So stating a fact about the event that just happened is "swarming"? The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #48
They already began here SwampG8r Feb 2016 #51
You're right. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #67
A 47% Moment in 2016 and With A Different Candidate.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #25
Yet Clinton did not call "black people" super predators MaggieD Feb 2016 #33
Yes she did. The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #49
Crickets JackInGreen Feb 2016 #76
Implications, code language, you know the regular vernacular of someone monicaangela Feb 2016 #56
Have you saw the video linked... LovingA2andMI Feb 2016 #63
Oh, man. "I just want to know which Clinton is running? The one from 96, 08 or PatrickforO Feb 2016 #28
Same one MaggieD Feb 2016 #30
You're on fire tonight...stunning berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #32
Yet I'm correct MaggieD Feb 2016 #34
It's right there on the video.. explain ? berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #37
The protestor said Clinton called "black people" super predators MaggieD Feb 2016 #39
Who did she call super predators then ?? berniepdx420 Feb 2016 #40
Gangs MaggieD Feb 2016 #42
Can you name any white gangs? loyalsister Feb 2016 #44
more than 10% are. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #72
Only 13% of gang members are White Arazi Feb 2016 #82
Google MaggieD Feb 2016 #73
Couldn't name one off the top of your head? loyalsister Feb 2016 #84
Don't play dumb. Ah fuck it. Play as dumb as you want. morningfog Feb 2016 #59
This was in the 90's EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #68
Yeah. Gangs MaggieD Feb 2016 #71
Let me fix that for you: coyote Feb 2016 #90
No. 1: They felt like she did, especially considering what followed-- Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #43
Thank you for this wonderful comment monicaangela Feb 2016 #58
Spot on. We aren't where we are by accident. nt raouldukelives Feb 2016 #64
Sadly, I think the Clintonites feel this will help them with the white vote and it will have little Skwmom Feb 2016 #60
Ashley Williams autonomous Feb 2016 #74
Hillary is not one to apologize without huge political pressure. thereismore Feb 2016 #77
For contrast EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #78
And one of those young ladies TM99 Feb 2016 #87
This will be like Mittens' 47%er comment. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #81
Got to love them clapping TM99 Feb 2016 #88
it's like with shootings--piles of dead 1st-graders only makes them say "that means *I* need MisterP Feb 2016 #89
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
1. Do you remember how roundly hated they were here just a couple months ago? Lots of us do.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:46 AM
Feb 2016

It was hard to forget.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
23. Do We Remember How....
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:14 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie Let Them Speak And Was NOT RUDE But How Hillary Team Literally Threw Ms. Williams Out The Door After Paying $500 to attend this "event"?

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
29. Sanders didn't let them speak - the event organizers did
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:05 AM
Feb 2016

Also, you need to check the definition of the word "literally."

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
45. Which event are we talking about?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:47 AM
Feb 2016

One event they took the mic, Sanders stepped aside and watched silently. Another, I think the moderators gave them the mic when Governor O'Malley was on stage.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
65. You need to view the video of Sanders getting Interrupted By
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:34 AM
Feb 2016

#BLM. He STEPPED BACK from the Mic to Let Them Speak. Or again -- is it easier to bury your head in the sandbox of denial for your candidate?

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
61. Posting an article that shows how this young woman was treated by Hillary and her supporters
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:20 AM
Feb 2016

is hardly championing BLM.

How do you even get that from that one post?

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
26. Of course one of the reasons
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:23 AM
Feb 2016

Was because people thought the person they were targeting did not deserve it. Even my AA fiance thought it was a bit bizarre, but I didn't say anything here about it because I didn't want to add to the racial tension. Hillary definitely deserves this though.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
6. "I want to know which Hillary is running for President, the one from ’96, ’08, or a new Hillary?"
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:00 AM
Feb 2016

She deserves an answer IMHO.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
10. she's got guts. I admire that in anyone but this is at a level that
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:24 AM
Feb 2016

most don't touch. good for her to do this.

enigmatic

(15,021 posts)
16. You bet she's got guts
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:27 AM
Feb 2016

I admire the hell out of Ashley Williams.

She has alot more guts than her detractors ever will.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
36. Well she needs to work on her accuracy a bit
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:20 AM
Feb 2016

Clinton did not call "black people" super predators.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
15. None of the above.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:27 AM
Feb 2016

If she wins we get a whole new Hillary, one that doesn't need to win 2020. We get a Hillary that has free reign with her most pwerful and closest friends on the right and the power to do as they will.

There is no limit. Anything is possible. The middle class has so little today, but when you centralize everything they have into one spot you realize how much they still have left to steal.

With the current Congress ratio and Hillary at the head it will be easy pickings.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
24. Hilli Vanilli Hillary....
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:17 AM
Feb 2016

The One That Change Like A Chameleon Depending On Which Crowd She's Addressing On Any Given Hour, Minute, Section....

(Singing) "Girl You Know It's True...."

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
80. That's the key part
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:08 PM
Feb 2016
"We did this because we wanted to make sure that black people are paying attention to her record, and we want to know what Hillary we are getting."

“Hillary Clinton has a pattern of throwing the Black community under the bus when it serves her politically," Williams said in a statement before the event. "She called our boys ‘super-predators’ in ’96, then she race-baited when running against Obama in ‘08, now she’s a lifelong civil rights activist. I just want to know which Hillary is running for President, the one from ’96, ’08, or the new Hillary?”

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
9. The crowd hissing is disgusting.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:22 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary could have played that a helluva lot better. Love to see the next five minutes of video.

enigmatic

(15,021 posts)
11. The hissing is beyond the pale
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:31 AM
Feb 2016

Switch out Hillary for Bernie in this video and DU would be broken w/ all of the posts by Hillary supporters burying him and calling him and the crowd flat-out racists.

We all know this.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
12. We all know this. Indeed.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:45 AM
Feb 2016

Edit. Who the fuck hisses? I've attended well over a thousand live events and have heard all sorts of things, hisses just don't happen. Of course I've never ponied up 5 large to attend any live event.

MgtPA

(1,022 posts)
38. I felt like I was watching an outtake from "The Help"
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:25 AM
Feb 2016

Those Junior League women would have hissed, for sure.

 

autonomous

(45 posts)
75. I was going to ask same thing, "Who the fuck hisses?"
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:57 AM
Feb 2016

Mythologically speaking, monsters hiss when the hero confronts them.

Ashley Williams.

EmperorHasNoClothes

(4,797 posts)
79. Booing is for the little people
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:08 PM
Feb 2016

The upper crusters at Hillary's events wouldn't stoop to such bourgeois claptrap.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
54. I am so proud of Ashley Williams
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:07 AM
Feb 2016

And so happy that the young people in the African American community are not being fooled by Hillary Clinton as some of their older counterparts are. I can't believe Ashley Williams is the first person to ask Hillary about this, and although she says in the video she will be happy to address it, she never does.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
86. The condescension and arrogance.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:01 PM
Feb 2016

Let me speak, and you listen. Hiss, booing, "you are tresspassing."

Come on Clinton supporters, where are you? Seriously, get the fuck in this thread and give her credit. I mean y'all attack Sanders mercilessly when young women actually shoved him at an event that wasn't even his to headline. This young lady paid to attend a Clinton event. She never touched Clinton. She demonstrated exactly what the best of non-violent activism is about. Clinton was arrogant and condescending. The crowd was harsh and demonstrated their white privilege.

So come on!

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
14. "Williams said the Secret Service threw her out out of the event."
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:15 AM
Feb 2016

Well, that's how you deal with that shit.

If you're a Clinton that is.

Williams said she and her colleague strategically placed themselves at the front of the crowd and waited until Clinton appeared. Speakers introducing Clinton around 9:30 p.m. Wednesday night discussed Walter Scott, the Charleston A.M.E. Church shooting and how Clinton had a strong record of racial justice.

Williams said when Clinton paused and looked at her sign, she asked the former secretary of state to apologize to black people for mass incarceration. The mostly white audience yelled at Williams and told her she was being rude, she said.

"I wanted to bring her to confront her own words," Williams told The Huffington Post after the protest, adding, "We did this because we wanted to make sure that black people are paying attention to her record, and we want to know what Hillary we are getting."

Williams said the Secret Service threw her out out of the event.
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
20. I highly doubt they "threw" her anywhere
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:59 AM
Feb 2016

And as she has demonstrated in the past, I'm sure Clinton would have had a dialogue with her if she wanted that. But clearly she didn't. So she got to say her peace and then it was time to leave.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
22. Really? Did Ms Williams threaten Clinton?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:06 AM
Feb 2016

The Service's job is to protect her life, not her image.

If Clinton needs bouncers, she should hire a few and pay for them .. like Trump.



Matariki

(18,775 posts)
17. Brave woman!
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:30 AM
Feb 2016

Clinton could have handled that better. Used it to create a dialog about something she professes to care about.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
57. I believe she was in the wrong room for that
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:18 AM
Feb 2016

Now if she had been before a room of AA's I'm sure she would have stopped and politely addressed her concerns, but being in front of that crowd, I don't believe she felt she needed to. Says a lot about this candidate.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
19. And yet her supporters will not swarm the Internet with nasty stuff about AA
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:57 AM
Feb 2016

Like the Sanders supporters did. Including here if I recall correctly.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
66. Isn't that something?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:34 AM
Feb 2016

I can't wait til election season is over and these folks who only come out during them go back into their hide-y holes.

 
48. So stating a fact about the event that just happened is "swarming"?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:50 AM
Feb 2016

Have a nice rest of the day, MaggieD.

SwampG8r

(10,287 posts)
51. They already began here
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:57 AM
Feb 2016

One clinton supporter has asked how she could afford it like black people have no money
Another says she is a front for sanders ( no ct though!)
Another says her companion something something
So that dog.....it dont hunt

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
67. You're right.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:38 AM
Feb 2016

they'll wait til after the election when the AA vote has been secured and they've no longer a use for POC.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
25. A 47% Moment in 2016 and With A Different Candidate....
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:20 AM
Feb 2016


Good Job Ashley Williams. Hope you receive a refund....
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
33. Yet Clinton did not call "black people" super predators
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:12 AM
Feb 2016

As this protestor claims. You realize that, right?

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
56. Implications, code language, you know the regular vernacular of someone
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:15 AM
Feb 2016

who is accustomed to southern dog whistle politics.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
63. Have you saw the video linked...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 10:26 AM
Feb 2016

Over 20 times in forum or are you just burying your head in the sand on purpose?

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
28. Oh, man. "I just want to know which Clinton is running? The one from 96, 08 or
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:56 AM
Feb 2016

the NEW Hillary."

On Huffpo no less. Calling out Clinton for too much evolving and perhaps not enough principle.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
39. The protestor said Clinton called "black people" super predators
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:27 AM
Feb 2016

Not true. Clinton never said that.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
42. Gangs
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:37 AM
Feb 2016

Are we going pro-gang now or something? I mean I can understand why no one has asked her about that 20 year old comment before. Gangs are still not a good thing. Right?

Are people making the (racist) assumption that gangs are only comprised of AA people? Every race has gangs in urban areas. It's hardly specific to AAs.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
44. Can you name any white gangs?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:44 AM
Feb 2016

The "black on black crime" meme grew out of the belief that gangs are predominately black. If someone refers to an individual as a "gang banger" what image do you think most people (especially white people in the suburbs) will imagine?

To this day, the word "gang" is a dog whistle. Denying that is just dishonest.
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
72. more than 10% are.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:36 AM
Feb 2016


What is shocking is how many people here on DU automatically equate "Gang" with "black".

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
84. Couldn't name one off the top of your head?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:27 PM
Feb 2016

I bet you did know who the Bloods and Crips are, though. If you remember the 90s, you will remember that in popular culture gangs were presumed to be composed of black youth. For that reason, it was a dog whistle and the Clintons knew it.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
43. No. 1: They felt like she did, especially considering what followed--
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:31 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:38 AM - Edit history (1)

--the mass incarceration of way disproportional numbers of black youth and men, on minor drug offenses (that whites were largely NOT going to jail for), keeping them in our dangerous, destructive, non-rehabilitative prisons for very long sentences--often private corporate prisons some of whom have donated to Clinton's current campaign; destroying their future lives, giving them lifetime police records, making them ineligible for student loans, ineligible for public housing, ineligible for food stamps, and depriving them of their right to vote!--all as the result of the Clintons' great escalation of the corrupt, murderous, failed U.S. "war on drugs."

No. 2: When white people call teen offenders "super predators," that is code for black. They are NOT talking about white "super predator" children! Black people know this. I know this. Any whites who have experience of black lives--friends, family--or even just do a bit of reading, knows this. You might try to be a little more sensitive, with your "FACT."

If it hadn't been for the follow-up by the Clintons--including the profiteering off of the destruction of black families and black communities all over this country--I might be inclined to give Clinton the benefit of the doubt, that she didn't mean black. Tone deaf, maybe, but not intentional.

But it is the follow-up that defines the meaning. She was going to use poor blacks, struggling to eke out a living-- who fell into drug use or the drug market by the evaporation of American jobs due to the Clintons' NAFTA--for building a personal fortune from the REAL "super predators"--Goldman Sachs, et al. For instance, the manufacturing corporations they were trading in, in their Big Casino, were paying workers $1/day or 35 cents/day wherever they could get away with it, leaving devastated communities all over the USA, both white and black, but black communities took the hardest of hard hits. And "to bring them to heel," police departments were militarized, given the "war on drugs" as an excuse, and who did they go after? Black kids and men.

Latinos also suffered mass incarceration in the same way. They got hit by NAFTA in two or more countries. NAFTA and associated destructive economic policies began destroying agriculture in Mexico, for instance, which decimated many small towns and villages. Families here with relatives in Mexico had to deal with joblessness and poverty in both places, which in Mexico included loss of small plots of land used for sustenance food. Those people began migrating north and their poverty had to be absorbed by relatives and communities here. And on top of this, some Latino kids and men also fell into drug use and/or drug markets to try to make a living in these desperate conditions. They, too, were way disproportionately jailed, often for minor offenses, with long sentences and permanent records.

It's still going on and Clinton supports it all, and it supports her!

Both groups, black and Latino, are often framed, often picked up for nothing, often brutalized for nothing, and almost never have adequate legal counsel. And we are seeing the "end game" of these policies in the outright shooting to death of innocent black youths and men for no reason at all!

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
58. Thank you for this wonderful comment
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:25 AM
Feb 2016

What a beautiful summary of the destruction that this "couple" this partnership has wreaked upon this nation. Excellent comment!

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
60. Sadly, I think the Clintonites feel this will help them with the white vote and it will have little
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 09:54 AM
Feb 2016

impact with the black vote.

The Clintons want to embrace blacks for the black vote but they need enough Sister Souljah moments to pander to certain whites.

Mika had to turn sideways on Morning Joe to hide her smile. And the heartfelt comments on the poor black child killed, I could really feel your concern

EmperorHasNoClothes

(4,797 posts)
78. For contrast
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:05 PM
Feb 2016


Although Bernie was clearly a little startled at first, he quickly handed the microphone over and let them say what they needed to. He could have just had them hauled off like Hillary did, but he let them speak.
 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
87. And one of those young ladies
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:03 PM
Feb 2016

actually physically shoved Sanders.

Oh, how we heard the hollars of indignation when anyone dared to criticize such actions.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
81. This will be like Mittens' 47%er comment.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:15 PM
Feb 2016

Give it a little time for people to wrap their heads around what it means. The young people will circulate it around social media and cell phones (as they're doing now) and they'll show it to their elders.

#WhichHillary (Williams' hashtag on the lower corner of her sign)

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