Hilary's BLM response, "I've never been asked that before." No script=no answer

[morningfog]

Like with everything unscripted with her, she can't answer until her advisors, focus group and attorney craft a response.

It was this way when the first questions with the private server were asked.

It was this way with the release of the transcript request.

Here, the young woman asked simply if black peoples were owed an apology. Hillary could not answer, not without her minders.

[VulgarPoet]

1. That's a mighty expressionate hand-puppet there. n/t

[Merryland]

2. This comment stood out for me

It was a kind of put-down as well as no script = no answer. And Clinton became immediately bombastic, "Let's get back to the issues that are important..."

[PonyUp]

3. In other words, "Let's get back to the script." n/t

[Merryland]

4. Yes.

Her attitude just reeks of superiority.

[peacebird]

18. Condescending.... This is why #WhichHillary is trending hard on twitter.

Her royal highness is being skewered on twitter. And it has hit M$M as well. Let's hope the video has legs.

[merrily]

6. A remark like "super predator" is not important? o.k.

[tk2kewl]

10. "do you want to hear the facts?"

That one was pretty bad too tone deaf

[Betty Karlson]

62. "back to the issues that are important" = black lives don't matter

So much for caring for People of Colour. Hi, I said you are superpredators, I have impoverished your communities, locked you up for recreational marijuana use, support the death penalt that disproportionally affects your communities, but all of that doesn't matter. Your lives don't matter to me, just your votes. Because you are my firewall.

And that is the woman Debbie wants as our nominee? Is she out of her DINO-mind?

[merrily]

5. This has been my impression. She is good at memorizing and playing back.

She is not good in the moment.

[TheUndecider]

8. Of course not.

She hasn't got that script from Goldman yet

[merrily]

11. Or from her campaign team. Either way, she does not seem on point when

something is unexpected.

[BernieforPres2016]

13. Particularly at an intimate $500 per person fundraiser in a multi million dollar house

Hillary thought she was in a safe space without any of the proletariat around. Heads are going to roll for not screening that BLM woman.

[freebrew]

40. So the woman was escorted out?

Hope she got a refund...

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

57. "Hillary thought she was in a safe space"

Great answer!

[d_legendary1]

17. Probably the reason why the town hall format works for her

while debates simply put her at risk.

[tex-wyo-dem]

70. Happens when you are the most...

Scripted, focus-grouped, lawyered-up politician in history.

[pipoman]

9. I think she could be good in the moment

if she wasn't always exercising her right to remain silent....taking the 4th...etc....she is always in defensive lawyer mode

[CoffeeCat]

29. Can you even begin to imagine

what she would be like in a debate with Trump? She would most likely unravel at the seams. Bernie, on the other hand, would obliterate him.

Clinton is scripted down to the word. If she's not, she morphs into a walking, talking disaster. Just look at her response to Bernie when he asked her about her Wall Street donations. Invoking 9/11? Holy shit.

She's scripted like a Hollywood actor, but she's also not used to anyone challenging her. She surrounds herself with sychophants who cater to her narcissism. Her campaign, and her life, are lived out in a bubble.

Reason 23,546 that she is a complete disaster.

[merrily]

37. Remember when she called Trump out on sexism and he replied about Bill?

That was not even a face to face debate. She and Bill both went silent. No comeback from either of them. I think it will either be like that, or she will go out of control.

[CoffeeCat]

59. And Trump isn't one to mince words. He'll be delighted to go after HRC

Bernie has been a true gentlemen. Some could argue that he's given HRC a free pass.

Trump will not be giving HRC a free pass. You won't hear, "I'm tired of hearing about your damn emails" come out of Trump's mouth.

She is not good on the fly. She's especially awkward when someone is calling her out.

Let's hope that America has some kind epiphany and realizes that HRC as our nominee is a vote for Trump as President.

[tk2kewl]

7. She's a train wreck w/o a script

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[AllyCat]

19. Video gone?

[tk2kewl]

20. WTF?

it was the Pelly "truth" video

[tk2kewl]

22. found a replacement

now i need to update my other post that had the pulled one

[Betty Karlson]

65. There is no script for the GE. Imagine how much she would wreck the GE. eom

[cyberswede]

12. She'll look into an appropriate reply

...after it's been poll tested with a focus group.

[RiverLover]

14. Too late to put her finger in the wind to check direction.

She just got knocked over by a tornado.

[Merryland]

15. Thanks! So true.

Ashley Williams demolished her.

[d_legendary1]

16. Apparently race isn't an important enough issue to give a response to

Escorting that poor girl out using her armed security adds a chilling police state element that she is supposedly against.


Now back to the important issues...

[AllyCat]

21. Is there video of this? I missed it.

[tk2kewl]

26. here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511332938

[AllyCat]

33. OMG. "Back to the Issues?"

The woman stopped asking her questions when Clinton said "Would you let me answer?" Then Clinton never answered. So the woman kept asking her question.

Brave woman in that unsupportive environment.

[Basement Beat]

41. Brave indeed!

That video made my blood boil at all the hissing and sighing and moaning from the crowd. Hillary getting in an aggressive stance when trying to get "back to the facts".

[Fairgo]

89. That's what has stuck in my mind

how very brave she was to walk into that space and challenge the powers that be in the foyer of wealth and entitlement.

[ejbr]

23. Excuse me...

We are not allowed to criticize her because:
1. She's a woman
2. She's the front runner
3. The Republicans do it
4. We shouldn't use her own words against her.
5. If its negative, it's a lie.

Did I cover everything?

[retrowire]

24. just about! lol nt

[tk2kewl]

27. and now apparently she was right about super predators

or something like that

[Buns_of_Fire]

28. 6. You'll hurt her chances, and by extension The Party, in the GE.

That's Brock's latest contribution.

[treestar]

44. what a straw man

It is Bernie we are not allowed to criticize on this board. Yesterday a poster got hides for comments about Bernie's resume. Nothing said against any DUer and nothing uncivil. Just criticism, not even criticism, but suggestion of Bernie's imperfection.

[ejbr]

86. If you say so

but not sure that this list is a straw man when I've seen it with my own eyes. Yet I am surprised that you didn't point to her superior poll numbers as a means to deflect from her shortcomings; shouldn't you rely on the ignorance of the populace as a defense?

[greiner3]

56. She's DNC.

Anointed from on high (read low)

[Jack Rabbit]

72. 6. She's the establishment's bullhorn

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[Stryst]

80. You forgot

"She's evolved on the subject" (see marriage equality, circa 2004).

[MisterP]

91. 6. "she's the Black candidate!"

[democrank]

25. I don`t care whether or not Hillary has been asked this before.

I care why she said what she said.

[thereismore]

30. She should just apologize goddammit. How hard is that? But she isn't like that. She can't change who

she is. And the young lady skiing the question won't heel and a generation of young people with her.

[morningfog]

31. Hillary's insulting non-response guarantees she will be asked again.

And when she then gives her practiced answer it will be torn apart.

[thereismore]

35. Correct. She fucked up with "All lives matter" but got away with it. She won't get away with this. n

[merrily]

38. Sanders was the only one who did NOT say "All lives matter." Both Hillary and O'Malley said it.

[thereismore]

39. Absofuckinlutely. Yet Bernie got so much heat. Incredible. nt

[WillyT]

32. K & R !!!

[SoapBox]

34. Not Presidential material.

She should have been able to answer.

AND what has she done for communities of color?

[UglyGreed]

36. Her staff is working on an answer

[PonyUp]

53. I'm afraid the numbers won't add up. n/t

[UglyGreed]

55. Yeah but some just

don't care......

[treestar]

42. How silly

She is very smart and knows when not to speak off the cuff. After the 11 hour grueling that could not be scripted, really? You sound like right wingers who said Obama couldn't think without a teleprompter.

[morningfog]

45. The 11 hour hearing was all scripted. There were no surprises there.

[treestar]

47. what a crazy assertion

how could it have been scripted? LOL. Nice try. Back to the drawing board.

[morningfog]

48. Her answers. She knew the topics, what would be discussed. She was very well prepared.

It was not a spontaneous event.

[treestar]

49. What the fuck is wrong with being prepared ?

LOL that is mantra number one for lawyers, prepare prepare prepare. Know the facts so you can handle the unscripted trial. OMG! This is beyond hilarious. How dare she PREPARE for something that important? I guess people should not study for exams either. If they study it's too scripted.

Back to the drawing board as this is a major fail.

[morningfog]

54. Wow you really miss points.

Absolutely she must be prepared for that type of hearing and she was. She did great. She was very well prepared.

Which is my point. When prepared, she does fine. Debates, hearings, speeches, etc.

When she is asked spontaneous, unexpected questions, like the BLM question, she falters.

There is no drawing board but in your mind.

[MaggieD]

78. LOL - yeah, sure.

Oh my.

[ladjf]

43. Hillary lacks imagination. She is a good script reader.nt

[Javaman]

46. she seems to always come off as dismissive.

I just can't get past that.

and this recent incident highlights that.

she reminds me of that aunt that wants to hang around with the young kids but then instructs them on what they are doing is dangerous.

[MaggieD]

50. She should have just "income inequality!" I guess

https://m.

[polly7]

66. He's great!

[mountain grammy]

51. She must realize how Clinton policies that she fought for

have actually hurt more people than they've helped.

[MuseRider]

52. Why is it so hard to apologize?

Every person I have ever known that simply could not or would not apologize does so because they meant what they said and do not feel like they owe anyone anything. If pressured to apologize you get the non-apology apology.

If someone actually cares that something they said or did hurt someone else an apology comes naturally and with great remorse.

[MaggieD]

69. Has Bernie apologized for his vote for mass incarceration?

If so I missed it. Got a link?

[morningfog]

74. Did Bernie call black kids super predators who need to be brought to heel?

That is the subject of this OP.

[MaggieD]

75. She called gangs super predators

Maybe you think gangs are only comprised of black kids, but that's just not the case. Never has been.

[morningfog]

76. She called inner city KIDS In gangs super predators, don't forget the heeling part.

[MaggieD]

79. I'm against gang violence

Don't see the problem with calling out the problem of gang violence. YMMV.

[morningfog]

82. And you don't have a problem calling kids super predates who need to heel?

[MaggieD]

84. Nope - I think our kids deserve to live in a culture free

From gang violence. And so do their parents. Black, white, asian, Latino. It's pretty universal.

[morningfog]

87. Amazing. Double plus good.

[Waiting For Everyman]

58. Exactly. Why didn't she just answer it?

Offer an explanation, an apology, and one of those loads of hugs she keep trying to get herself photographed doing.

She had a chance to show some REAL warmth and honesty. But she doesn't have any.

I hope because of Ashley Williams' bravery a lot of black people catch on to who HRC really is, and what she has really done.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

60. missing her Minders, her polls, her focus groups, her Sydney Blumenthol, her

parsing of a previously tested (highly selective, paid audience) response,

Without that, she has no answer.

[Betty Karlson]

61. CLINTON IS NOT A LEADER, SHE IS A FOLLOWER.

And I throughly distrust the men and women she follows.

[PWPippin]

63. Her comment about getting back to the issues says that BLM issues DON'T matter.

[PatrynXX]

64. oh hello Bush Jr here. you want to know what about war. hhmmm let me ask Dick about it

he'll let me know how I should respond (face palm) Yeah I'll go to a bunch of men no doubt and see how I should answer this

[Arazi]

67. She's had 20 years to apologize. She's not going to now

[Duval]

68. Courageous young woman asks a question and receives a condescending answer.

And then she was escorted out of the room? I hope this video goes viral.

[Sinan]

71. So?

Piling on Hillary for events that happened in the 90's is absurd. In case you forgot or were too young to remember, that era did have significant problems with crime and most everyone thought getting tough on crime was an important thing to do. Was her comment racist? Not really, at least in light of the fact that some kids were indeed doing a lot of nasty things. So let us stop beating her up, she is going to be our nominee despite Bernie's amazing run. If you want to elect Trump, keep this stuff up. As a 60 year old liberal, the last thing I want to do is see him become POTUS. We can still love Bernie and vote for Hillary. Grow up people.

[Ino]

92. Could you be more condescending?

Piling on Hillary for events that happened in the 90's is absurd.
Not when she is running for President and that is part of her record. It would be absurd NOT to talk about it.

In case you forgot or were too young to remember, that era did have significant problems with crime and most everyone thought getting tough on crime was an important thing to do.
I'm not too young, and haven't forgotten, thanks anyway.

Was her comment racist? Not really, at least in light of the fact that some kids were indeed doing a lot of nasty things.
Not really? In light of the fact that they deserved it?! Does that excuse her talking about kids -- even those doing nasty things -- like they are DOGS?

So let us stop beating her up, she is going to be our nominee despite Bernie's amazing run.
In your opinion. It is my mission to nominate Sanders, not coddle Hillary.

If you want to elect Trump, keep this stuff up.
If you want to elect Trump -- or any Republican -- nominate Hillary.

As a 60 year old liberal, the last thing I want to do is see him become POTUS.
As a 63-year-old progressive, the last thing I want to do is see Hillary as the Dem nominee.

We can still love Bernie and vote for Hillary. Grow up people.
Hey, let's just skip the primaries and go straight to the GE. OK Mommy!

[Sinan]

96. Great. Fight for Bernie and then vote for the winner.

At some point the Bernie Bots have got to understand that if you do not end up supporting the winner even if Bernie loses, then you are voting for Trump. So, are you going to have a tantrum if Hillary gets the nod and then not vote for her? If you say yes, you are a traitor to the Democratic Party and everything we stand for and have stood for since you and I were kids. If you accept who ever wins and fight hard for them to beat Trump, then you will be a true Democrat. It is your choice but make the right one. Our lives are close to ending, our kids lives are at stake here.

[Ino]

97. Yes, you could be more condescending...

and insulting!

This Bernie Bot is supporting A Winner in the primary.

I'll let you count your chickens before they hatch, burn your bridges, and stew in your own juice.

[Sinan]

99. Great, I will vote for Bernie too, love the guy.

But the deck is stacked and you can hope all you want but Hillary is going all the way and then what are you going to do? As for condescending, grow a pair. This is high stakes poker and if the left decides to cry in their beer because Saint Bernie did not win, then you are giving it to Trump and he will get FOUR SCOTUS picks. Are you that irrational? I hope not.

[gyroscope]

73. Poor Hillary

She's a deer in headlights when anyone asks her a non-scripted question.

[LanternWaste]

77. I think it's wonderful that so many posters are interested in black lives

I think it's wonderful that so many posters are interested in black lives and black culture and black concerns for the very first time.

It's only a coincidence that Sanders is attempting to court the black vote and having a difficult time doing so. It's also a coincidence that after the primary, that very same interest will fade away.

[morningfog]

83. I don't know what forum you've been on, but this

has been a heavily discussed topic for months.

[jsmirman]

95. Nice to see that one of my favorite posters

from the old days, still can spot the game afoot.

[azmom]

81. It was, I've never been asked that before, dear.

Dismissive and condescending as hell.

[Laughing Mirror]

88. Calling her dear watching her being removed

And then rubbing her nose, quickly changing the subject to things important to her.

[LittleBlue]

85. She's already in GE mode. Can't alienate the whites, don't need black people anymore

Her emphasis on black issues will disappear as fast as it appeared, at least once she senses victory in the primaries. She thinks she's nearly there, so bye bye black people.

It was a useful issue in taking down Bernie, nothing more.

[MisterP]

90. "You might think that: I couldn't possibly comment"

[Ino]

98. Season 4 starts March 4!

[John Poet]

93. Oh, Hillary answered. Her answer was to allow SS

to throw protester out of the event.

I guess only white contributors matter.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

94. seems that she might want to get out more...

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