Does anyone really believe that the majority of Americans would choose Trump?

[Lodestar]

I don't buy it. I think we're getting railroaded by the media and corruption of the
voting system. If the Donald wins I think that's evidence of a voting scam.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. Maybe a plurality but less likely than not./nt

[Le Taz Hot]

2. If he's running against Hillary? Yup.

If he's running against Sanders? Nope.

[hifiguy]

43. Agreed.

She will strongly depress the Dem turnout and motivate the hell out of the reichwing base that has been waiting to vote against her for 25 years. They will do everything short of come out of graves to vote against her. She's a win-win for whomever Repig emerges from their pigpen.

[PoliticAverse]

3. No one elected will be getting the votes of a "majority of Americans". n/t

[TheUndecider]

21. Too true

The majority will be watching the Kardashians! Sigh

[CBGLuthier]

4. The real question is does anyone believe the majority of Americans have lost their fucking minds.

The answer is.

Yes. Yes, I think they have.

[LexVegas]

5. If Bernie is the nominee Trump will win. nt

[Fawke Em]

13. LOL.

It's the other way around.

Hillary is the establishment everyone wants to shit-can.

[LexVegas]

25. By everyone you mean mostly white people. nt

[hifiguy]

46. Srsly?

Try again.

[LexVegas]

48. See SC this weekend to see the difference between Bernie's base and the Democratic base. nt

[Lizzie Poppet]

31. Perhaps in the Star Trek goatee universe.

In the one we live in, Bernie's our best shot in November.

[vi5]

6. What's the quote? "Nobody ever went broke......"

I think you all know the rest.

[TCJ70]

7. If he's running against Clinton...

...yes. I think it will happen in a few different ways:

1. Republicans will come out in droves to vote against Clinton. One of their mantras this time around is "No More Clintons/Bush's"

2. Independents don't support Clinton enough to make up for number 1

3. There are a certain number of Sanders supporters that will/can not vote for Clinton. This is largely due to the fact that she represents the exact opposite of Sanders in so many regards, it would require them to give up core principles to support her.

She's not the best suited candidate to go after Trump, Sanders is. He's proved it over and over again.

[el_bryanto]

8. I hope they won't but I think it's possible.

The logic is pretty straightforward though.

"America is on the wrong track. My paycheck is stagnant while prices keep going up. Life is harder and harder, and I think it will be even harder for my kids. We need a change. We need new blood. So my choices are the archetypical Washington insider who promises incremental improvements on what we already have and a loud-mouthed outsider who promises something new."

Some people, maybe many people, will go for door number 2.

Bryant

[TDale313]

9. If we nominate Hillary? Yes.

[AxionExcel]

10. Seig Trumpen Furher!

[Stuckinthebush]

11. NO

Hillary will beat the crap out of him.

[hifiguy]

47. How.

She embodies the establishment people are sick to death of.

She has zero appeal to independents, the disaffected and Millennials.

The Repub base will do everything short of coming out of the grave to vote against her. They've been waiting to vote against her for 25 years and are not going to miss their chance.

She has completely alienated the left/liberal base of the Democratic Party.

So just how does she win?

[BillZBubb]

12. Two words: w bush

If that guy could get in the White House twice, anything is possible.

[Lodestar]

14. Yes, but he was 'selected' by SCOTUS and that was also the year

of the 'hanging chads' and the discovery of the Republican owned electronic voting
machines, and all manner of sketchy voting disruptions, etc. A corrupt election if ever there was one. And I think we'll see it again,

[djean111]

15. That's what I was thinking. n/t

[Agschmid]

16. Wrong forum...

But also everyone should take Donald seriously, he has a chance of beating BOTH our candidates.

[TheUndecider]

22. Oh crap

Used to think he was the ideal foe, now he just scares me

[peacebird]

17. Over Hillary, yes. I do believe it. Hell, I have friends who are actively supporting him because

They are so disgusted with status quo. People want someone to address income inequality, and people believe that politicians in general are in league with corporations.

Guess what? People are tired of seeing our politicians become millionaires while our wages are stagnant.

Will they vote for The Donald over Hillary? Hell yes.

[Katashi_itto]

57. Yeah my friends and aquaintances are the same way.

A good portion says they flat out the will vote Donald over Hillary if she's the Nominee.

I can see their reasoning. Why support a political system that doesn't remotely represent you?

[peacebird]

58. Sadly I can understand their reasoning also.

[Octafish]

18. More people know about Trump, the less they like him.

Friend of Roy Cohn. Speed Freak. Divorces and no VD. Bankruptcy with Benefits...

Guy carries more baggage than Ivanka's footman.

[nichomachus]

29. Just like Hillary n/t

[Armstead]

35. Unfortunately he is also covered with Teflon

[flamingdem]

64. Roy Cohn? There must be photos of him dancing at Studio 54! nt

[togetherforever]

19. Against Hillary it's a no brainer

She is despised by most Americans .

Even by many Democrats

[JudyM]

26. Welcome to DU, togetherforever.

[Proud Public Servant]

20. Don't think majority, think map

Look at the electoral map from 2012, and ask:

1) Would there be any Dem pickups against Trump? (I'd say no)

2) What would Trump be able to pick up, and would it be enough?

To that second question, I'd say he could perhaps pick up FL (anti-immigration would play well), OH (angry blue-collar resentment country), NH and CO. That's not enough. I don't think VA would buy what he's selling, thankfully. The big if would be PA, which is usually more safely Dem than the press likes to admit, but Trump would play very well in the middle (Republican) part of the state and could pick off blue collar support in Philly and Pittsburgh.

So, yeah: it's a fairly narrow path to victory, but it's a path.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

23. Bush was reelected in 2004

It has nothing to do with a "majority of Americans". It has everything to do with turnout and swing voters.

[Zorra]

24. Yes, if he was running against Hillary Clinton. Republicans are getting record turnouts

in the primaries so far.

The young voters who Bernie has brought into the Democratic party are motivated to participate in the process because Bernie reflects their values and knows what he has to do to give them the springboard opportunities they need for a saner and more rewarding future.

If Hillary gets the nomination, many of these young voters will throw up their hands in disgust and stay home for the GE, or vote third party, or leave simply not cast a vote for a presidential candidate.

Many longtime Dems and left independents have been alienated beyond the tipping point of being able to tolerate holding their noses and voting for the lesser of two evils. They will no longer allow themselves to be held hostage in a two party system where oligarchs control both parties and use them for their own profit and power accumulation purposes. Many longtime Dems will most likely vote third party or not cast a vote for a presidential candidate.

So here we are, standing at the crossroad.

[JudyM]

27. Srsly. Remember how many voted for Shrub's 2nd term? Inexplicable.

[hoosierlib]

28. Yes...a majority of the electoral college...

Most Americans are uniformed idiots...and unfortunately the come out and vote regularly...

[Thinkingabout]

30. He is disliked by 50% of republicans but what is more scary is he will pick his VP,

he could resign and whoever we would have whoever Trump picks. For all who wants to disparage either Hillary or Sanders and allow Trump or any Republican to be elected.

[Nitram]

32. I don't believe Trump would win either the popular or the electoral vote...

...against either Democratic candidate.

[Basement Beat]

33. Judging by the overt racism...

and idiocy that is pervasive in the good ol' country from the top down, I would say yes. Yes Trump has a great chance. The most outrageous and racist he gets, the more support comes out.

[Contrary1]

41. Yep. Nearly 20% of Trump Fans Think Freeing the Slaves Was a Bad Idea

http://time.com/4236640/donald-trump-racist-supporters/

[Mufaddal]

34. It doesn't need to be a majority of Americans

It just needs to be the majority of voters. And in a Clinton-Trump election, I think there is an extremely good chance that Clinton would lose. With any other candidate, that's less of a worry for me. With Trump, it's a big one.

[Cobalt Violet]

36. Having survived Reagan, Bush and Bush, yes I do believe it.

We have a lot of misinformed people out there.

[eppur_se_muova]

37. Well, only a bare majority of Americans even turn out to vote ...

it only takes about 28% of the voting population to win. If Trump wins, it will be due to inaction.

[olddots]

38. most of us see "most " -Americans on TV

from what I see on TV I beleive Trump will be the president of the dumbest brain washed place on earth . By watching all this shit we are becoming what we see .

[Marr]

39. Majority? Possibly. Enough to win the election? Absolutely.

Look around you-- this is a Kim Kardashian/Michael Bay's Transformers sort of time you're living in.

[Spider Jerusalem]

40. Nope, but then a majority of Americans don't have to

voter turnout at the 2008 election was 57%, in 2012 it was 55%. Which means that the winner will be decided by around 30% of eligible voters. Winning a majority of people who can be bothered to vote is a rather different thing than winning a majority of Americans.

[bigwillq]

42. Yes

People seem to want change and he's saying what they want to hear.

[JackRiddler]

44. No. A majority of Americans will not back Trump.

But the corporate media will do him all the favors - continuous uncritical coverage of every piece of nonsense he forwards, while providing enough occasional "criticism" through the irrelevant punditry just enough to feed the liberal media myth.

And you can also rely on them to treat "terror" and the like as crises, and to continue playing everything in terms of a personal soap opera, while ignoring every issue that matters and is truly a threat to the people and the medium and long term survival of civilization and the human race.

I'm genuinely curious about how the big PAC money will go, but expect it to line up behind him as if he were any Republican.

So there are no guarantees. Obviously I think Sanders is the stronger candidate but no guarantees.

[jberryhill]

45. After Reagan? Sure, why not?

The same things were said about Ronald Reagan. He was a "joke candidate" for several cycles until he won.

[Orsino]

49. Not I.

I think our Dem will win, whoever we're talking about as nominees.

[Betty Karlson]

50. Reagan won a landslide with just 27 % of the votes of all eligeable voters.

That's why Rove, Republicans and DINOs all agree on one thing: "I don't want all people to show up at the polls"

[jeff47]

51. No, I believe the majority of Americans will not participate out of disgust at their two choices.

Of the remaining minority who will participate, Trump can win.

[EdwardBernays]

52. American voting

Has absolutely nothing to do with the majority of Americans.

It has to do with winning a few specific locations in a few specific states.

[dchill]

53. Unmotivated Dem low turnout...

Motivated Repub high turnout.

President Trump.

[JustAnotherGen]

54. I do

The majority is white and based on a discussion I'm having elsewhere on DU -

There are too many poor white men - and those are the people voting for them.

If Americans had not voted for Reagan when I was a little kid - this wouldn't be a problem.

So they voted against their interests then and this guy comes along and is promising to take things away from blacks, hispanics, asians, women, glbt, of all socio economic backgrounds and give it to them.

And that's why Trump can win.
.

[gcomeau]

55. Two words for you.

1. Bush.

2. Re-elected.






Never ever ever ever underestimate the insanity of the US electorate.

[Arugula Latte]

65. Well, not legitimately re-elected, but tampering in Ohio did the trick.

Poor KKKarl had his heart set on the same game plan in '12, which is why he was left sputtering when Obama won Ohio.

But, yeah, the point is that enough Americans actually did vote for the evil schmuck to get him within cheating distance of a win and they were also stupid enough to vote for Ronnie twice. So I won't be surprised if it happens again.

[Beowulf]

56. We asked that same question in 1980.

That turned out so well for us.

[TheSarcastinator]

59. you DO remember that GWB was RE-elected, dontchya???

I mean, you can claim the first round was stolen by a conspiracy of Naderites, but the second round made things a little more clear, really. Every Dem I know thought Kerry could take Dubya in a cakewalk...and we know how that worked out.

Hubris, they name is Team Clinton.

[gwheezie]

60. I think Trump can beat both of them

I think we have a slim chance of keeping the WH and the candidate who faces trump will a tough fight. It's going to be ugly.

[lunamagica]

61. No I don't. Blacks, Latinos, other PoC, Muslims, LGBT, Jews, REAL Christians, most women

won't want that monster in the WH.

There is no way he can win without all those groups

[TheFarseer]

62. I wouldn't have believed we'd reelected Bush

So who knows what could happen. Also, if democraticunderground is generating tons of Hillary hate, guess what the country at large will do.

[bettyellen]

63. I don't believe it.