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leveymg

(36,418 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:28 AM Feb 2016

War is foreordained: what Hillary has told us about her Presidency:

"Obliterate Iran" (2008);
"Syria No-fly zone" (2016);
"We came, we saw, he died" (Libya, 2012);
"If you’re part of Hezbollah, you’re part of a terrorist organization, plain and simple.” (2015)
“I would not support this agreement for one second if I thought it put Israel in greater danger” (Iran again, 2015); and, of course,

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
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tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
6. that's for the poor kids
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:01 PM
Feb 2016

the ones who can't have free tuition because some rich kid might take advantage of it

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
11. See, war is good. It gives poor people jobs, it makes money for the MIC, gives leaders a thrill.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:42 PM
Feb 2016

oh yeah, it kills and maims our youngest and brightest. Sucks to die, but sucks worse to come back missing limbs, and with PTSD and find there is no Room at the VA Inn...and still there are no jobs. Sorry guy/girl, you're messed up.

For the 1%, what's not to like? Even if we lose, they win and conspire to fight yet another and another and...

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
5. In 2002
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 11:54 AM
Feb 2016

I marched in Wash DC carrying a sign that said "Another Bush, another war."

A vote for Hillary is a vote for war. Period. No amount of failure, destruction and death will deter her from getting her war on.

RunInCircles

(122 posts)
7. Did you watch Hilary's answer about Libya in the Town Hall?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 12:12 PM
Feb 2016

Libya is a disaster zone do you think we should learn any lessons about indiscriminate regime change.
Blah Blah Genocide. Blah Blah Democratic Elections.
Genocide has been reliably poll tested to illicit outrage and horror but it does not apply in the case of Libya.
And why are the Libyans not more grateful that they got a chance to vote for one of our handpicked puppets?
We are of course the victims here those ungrateful slobs living in a war torn hell hole should count their blessings that we let them vote. Kind of like the USA experience of voting for the pre-approved corporate candidate. USA USA

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
9. Libya was "liberated" (liquidated) to free up arms and Jihadi fighters to bring down Syria.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:34 PM
Feb 2016

Genocide is the calculus that drove Saudi Arabia and Qatar (with our help, and the encouragement of Israel) to support and spread an escalating Sunni religious war against Shi'ites across the MENA region. That serial regime change strategy depends upon the spread of Islamic terrorism. Secretary of State Hillary along with CIA Director Petraeus were the principal advocates of this strategy. Blowback was considered by them an acceptable risk until Ambassador Stevens was killed.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
8. ''Now if this sounds familiar, it’s what Hitler did back in the 30s...''
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:08 PM
Feb 2016

War is great for warmongers, banksters and politicians. For the rest of humanity, not so much.



Hillary Clinton says Vladimir Putin’s Crimea occupation echoes Hitler

Former US secretary of state says Russian president’s argument that he is protecting his people was used by Nazis in 1930s


The Guardian
Associated Press, March 6, 2014

EXCERPT...

Putin has said he is protecting ethnic Russians by moving troops into Crimea. Clinton said on Tuesday at a closed fundraising luncheon in Long Beach that Putin’s actions were similar to what happened in the Nazi era in Czechoslovakia and Romania.

“Now if this sounds familiar, it’s what Hitler did back in the 30s,” Clinton said, according to the Press-Telegram of Long Beach. “Hitler kept saying: ‘They’re not being treated right. I must go and protect my people.’ And that’s what’s gotten everybody so nervous.”
Responding to a question submitted at the UCLA talk, Clinton said she was not making a direct comparison although Russia’s actions were “reminiscent” of claims Germany made in the 1930s when the Nazis said they needed to protect German minorities in Poland and elsewhere in Europe.

“The claims by President Putin and other Russians that they had to go into Crimea and maybe further into eastern Ukraine because they had to protect the Russian minorities, that is reminiscent of claims that were made back in the 1930s when Germany under the Nazis kept talking about how they had to protect German minorities in Poland and Czechoslovakia and elsewhere throughout Europe,” she said.

“I just want everybody to have a little historic perspective. I am not making a comparison, certainly. But I am recommending that we perhaps can learn from this tactic that has been used before.”
Clinton said Putin was trying to “re-Sovietise” the periphery of Russia but was actually squandering the potential of his nation and “threatening instability and even the peace of Europe.”

SOURCE: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/06/hillary-clinton-says-vladimir-putins-crimea-occupation-echoes-hitler



Thank you, leveymg for this most important history you brought up. You are fearless in your dedication to the nation and in telling the truth.
 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
10. I have ZERO doubt that she would have the US in another
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

boots-on-the-ground war within six months of being inaugurated (the FSM forbid!). She is a neocon different only in degree, not in kind, from Whistle Ass.

We have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
12. That's one of the things that scares me most about her. That and a fervor for
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:22 PM
Feb 2016

trade agreements that punish American workers.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
13. I remember back in 2003 when hundreds of thousands of Americans took to the streets
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:31 PM
Feb 2016

in protest of the pending invasion of Iraq. I was one of them.

Some people are serious about stopping war, and some support Hillary Clinton for the Presidency. It's no surprise that these two groups don't get along.

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