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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:03 PM Feb 2016

Super Tuesday just may be last stand for Bernie Sanders

WASHINGTON — Bernie Sanders vowed yesterday that his campaign will go the distance in the Demo­cratic presidential primary. But in reality, Super Tuesday could be Sanders’ last stand.

It’s all a matter of arithmetic.

Sanders’ surge following his strong showing in Iowa and his big win in New Hampshire made him appear to be a formidable challenger to Democratic favorite Hillary Clinton. Sanders was riding a wave made up of equal parts momen­tum, money and grass-roots support.

Then he lost in Nevada.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/kimberly_atkins/2016/02/super_tuesday_just_may_be_last_stand_for_bernie_sanders
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Super Tuesday just may be last stand for Bernie Sanders (Original Post) SecularMotion Feb 2016 OP
The last stand was Nevada. He just doesn't get it yet. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #1
Totally workinclasszero Feb 2016 #5
Its like a zombie campaign now. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #6
I do expect Samders to lose in the Southern and surrounding states. He'll surely lose in SC. Cal33 Feb 2016 #7
You wish. Clinton has just been overtaken by Sanders in the national polls. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #2
National polls don't mean squat till the GE workinclasszero Feb 2016 #11
These ones? Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #14
In two days workinclasszero Feb 2016 #17
57 delegates from SC will not change the entire world, sweety. Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #37
Are you relying on that crap poll saying Sanders was up 6%? mythology Feb 2016 #19
Maybe. He said he'd be in it, though. We'll soon see. merrily Feb 2016 #3
You Wish AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #4
Many of the Democratic Establishment people are doing what they can to help Clinton win. Cal33 Feb 2016 #10
If "the choice is clear here", tell us which States we should expect Sanders to win... brooklynite Feb 2016 #29
35 states vote after Super Tuesday. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #8
Apparently they dont count. bunnies Feb 2016 #20
not larkrake Feb 2016 #9
He will win even if he loses.. workinclasszero Feb 2016 #12
Yes, most likely.. DCBob Feb 2016 #13
Actually spoke to a candidate I know in Maine today... brooklynite Feb 2016 #31
OPs like this look foolish and uninformed angrychair Feb 2016 #15
Why would he leave a race where the other candidate could be GreenPartyVoter Feb 2016 #16
good point. Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #25
Also, why would he lelave the race pdsimdars Feb 2016 #30
I think so ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #18
She has Blacks and Hispanics on her side. He won't be able to ovecome that lunamagica Feb 2016 #21
Yup... SidDithers Feb 2016 #22
But Bernie.. DisgustedTX Feb 2016 #23
or not... we will see Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #24
Sorry guys, the coronation has been postponed. . . . pdsimdars Feb 2016 #26
Or NOT! Haha, see how that works? thereismore Feb 2016 #27
He's staying in until the convention in Philadelphia farleftlib Feb 2016 #28
Get him out soon . . . pdsimdars Feb 2016 #32
Nope. The Redheaded Guy Feb 2016 #33
No reason that Bernie wouldn't stay in the race until June BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #34
He says he is in it MuseRider Feb 2016 #35
So the desperate keep telling us whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #36
They really want him to bow out after super tuesday bobbobbins01 Feb 2016 #38
 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
7. I do expect Samders to lose in the Southern and surrounding states. He'll surely lose in SC.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:11 PM
Feb 2016

I expect to see him gaining thereafter. It will be a close fight right up to June, 2016.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
11. National polls don't mean squat till the GE
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:19 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie's campaign will live and die with the state by state primary polls.

Many of them are posted here and they are all extremely bad news for Bernie except Vermont.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
14. These ones?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:25 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511329699

I agree, extremely bad news for Sanders. Only in Vermont would Sanders get all the delegates. In six more states he would merely win, and in some cases not even by double digits.

Compare that to Clinton's landslide in Iowa (0.2%) or her 5 % win Nevada, or her showing in NH...

Oh wait...
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
17. In two days
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:55 PM
Feb 2016

the world is gonna change and then Super Tuesday.

Bernie will not be a viable candidate afterwards, it is what it is.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
37. 57 delegates from SC will not change the entire world, sweety.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:37 PM
Feb 2016

No disrespect to South Carolina, but that hyperbole is detached from reality.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
4. You Wish
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:09 PM
Feb 2016

You don't understand that this is not like any other election cycle. The rules don't apply here. People are not figuring out which corrupt politician to choose. The choice is clear here, between a super corrupt politician and the most decent politician and human being in American politics today, and a fighter of the 99%.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
10. Many of the Democratic Establishment people are doing what they can to help Clinton win.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:19 PM
Feb 2016

The fight is uphill for Sanders all the way, in spite of which he is doing extremely well. He
is attracting more and more supporters as time goes on. I believe he will win in the end -
but it will be close.

brooklynite

(94,589 posts)
29. If "the choice is clear here", tell us which States we should expect Sanders to win...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:20 PM
Feb 2016

EDIT - I mean "which States THAT WILL GET HIM THE DELEGATES HE NEEDS should we expect Sanders to win?

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
9. not
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:16 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie will be supported all the way in high delegate states. He will win even if he loses the nomination, because he is right in solutions, is not a corporate shill like Hillary nor is he a pathological liar/narcissist like trump-Cruz-rubio

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
13. Yes, most likely..
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:25 PM
Feb 2016

and it doesn't get any easier for Bernie after that. Here the next 11 states after Super Tuesday.. the only one Bernie has a decent chance to win is Maine... the rest are mostly Clinton states.

Michigan
Louisiana
Mississippi
Florida
Illinois
Missouri
North Carolina
Ohio
Kansas
Nebraska
Maine

brooklynite

(94,589 posts)
31. Actually spoke to a candidate I know in Maine today...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016

...apparently the Clinton campaign has been racking up sign ups for absentee ballots. Ballot requests are about 10,000 more than expected.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
15. OPs like this look foolish and uninformed
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:52 PM
Feb 2016

There are 1,004 delegates available on March 1st. All states issue their delegates proportionally, no one comes out of Super Tuesday with a 1,000 delegates or anything crazy like that.
Current pledged delegates: 51Sanders/51Clinton

SuperDelegates don't count till the vote on convention night is over. Stop looking foolish using that number in a delegate count. They can and have flipped at the very last second before.
Example: do you really think that New Hampshire's SuperDelegates will not all vote with Sanders? He won the state by the largest number in a contested primary in state history, Democrat or Republican.

Link to help educate yourself a little:
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/02/super_tuesday_2016_when_is_it.html

GreenPartyVoter

(72,377 posts)
16. Why would he leave a race where the other candidate could be
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 01:52 PM
Feb 2016

in trouble with the FBI? Makes more sense to stay in until convention and see how things play out.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
30. Also, why would he lelave the race
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016

When his popularity is rising and hers is falling?
Just a matter of time . . . . . .
That's why they want him out ASAP, before she falls flat.
Just a matter of time . . . . .

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
28. He's staying in until the convention in Philadelphia
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:19 PM
Feb 2016

where he will accept the nomination of the Democratic Party and go on to be POTUS.

He has said this many times. It has been posted many times. He's in it to win it. Thank you for your "concern."

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
32. Get him out soon . . .
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:23 PM
Feb 2016

He is rising and she is sinking . . . it's only a matter of time . . . that's why they want him out so badly. . . . as time goes by, she will fall flat.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
34. No reason that Bernie wouldn't stay in the race until June
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:26 PM
Feb 2016

Remember that Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated in June, as Hillary noted when she explained why she stayed in the race against Obama in 2008.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
35. He says he is in it
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 02:35 PM
Feb 2016

until the end. We have a candidate that does no lie to us. Unless something horrible happens he is in this to build up the people to stop the oligarchy. No one else is going to do it. Why would he stop and why should we stop supporting him?

Sorry, we don't want Hillary and we are not planning on handing it to her. I think the dems are so used to just giving up they can't imagine this.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
38. They really want him to bow out after super tuesday
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:42 PM
Feb 2016

But the fact is, yes, he'll take a big hit from now until March 15th, but he could potentially win every state after that. So they need to hurt him now to prevent that. Don't listen.

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