So...the official talking point from HRCHQ re: Ashley Williams is a shrug?

[grasswire]

I'm seeing that everywhere here on DU this morning, from multiple Hillary supporters.

Downplay the words and feelings of Ashley Williams. Just one "chick" (as a DU member called her last night) who had a bee in her bonnet.

Considering that the event was held in the foyer of a grand old home in a Southern location, I can almost hear echoes of Scarlet O'Hara. Dismissive. Snooty.

[Merryland]

1. Yes, the Deep South setting was just perfect

for the encounter that could change the South Carolina primary into something extraordinary. The snooty remarks "You're trespassing" (she wasn't, she paid) and "inappropriate" - wow, hand me a mint julep or something, or better yet, fan me as I take my afternoon nap before Ashley Wilkes shows up.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. It will have an effect

I have no idea how much... if it has an extreme effect, the commentariat (and the Clinton campaign) are going to go into panic mode. And given the social media reaction, it just might.

[TTUBatfan2008]

8. Even if it's blowing up on social media...

...there are a lot of voters who don't pay attention to that. I don't think it will have much of an effect.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. I think we are going to see an age split

This will be, in the best of cases, cost them a couple points. In the worst of cases, 47 percent moment for the HRC campaign, which, also first exploded in social media.

[TTUBatfan2008]

11. 47% received mainstream media attention.

I don't think this situation will get any attention from the TV networks.

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. It already is

Andrea Mitchell had it on her show, and asked an uncomfortable question to a HRC surrogate and CNN also had run it.

[TTUBatfan2008]

21. Good for Andrea.

Would be nice if the rest of the media decides to report on this too.

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. As I wrote this morning

social media is driving this train at this point.

We shall see if this translates to the afternoon shows I am sure they are hopping for a tornado or a shooting, anything that is breaking news... yes I am that cynical.

[lasttrip]

54. Check out Tim B..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=126285
Peace.
LT

[nadinbrzezinski]

64. One hell of another video from him

but he is not in the approved list, so I hear a bus coming.

[GeoWilliam750]

83. I wonder whether

Ashley Williams may have just chosen the next President of the United States, and changed the course of history

EVERYONE can make a difference. $500, a piece of paper, and a chest full of courage

Had Hillary just walked over to Ms Williams, wrapped her arms around her, and said very publicly, "Your message is important, I want it heard by everyone, and please stay behind so that I can get you comfortable with what I think and what we want to do", then Hillary might have been the next President

This incident has been coming for a long time, and she really should have been prepared

[nadinbrzezinski]

84. It does have that potential

[GeoWilliam750]

94. History is finely balanced

And Ashley Williams just hurled a freight train onto the scales

[nadinbrzezinski]

97. That is one poetic way of putting it

:-;

[artislife]

91. Just like social media has been driving Bernie Sanders' campaign

I don't know why some h supporters don't understand how impactful social media is. I mean, h would be waltzing without a partner to the convention if social media had no influence.

[KoKo]

65. Disappointed that Andrea didnt show the audio of the video

because it gave the impression that the protester just showed her the banner and that Hillary looked at it. Didn't show her being escorted out or the way Hillary blew her off. So, a casual observer wouldn't have known what it was about.
I'm pretty sure Andrea is a Hillary supporter so she wasn't going to show enough of the clip for it to get the outrage it deserved.

Thanks to your OP I did watch it and wouldn't have known about it if you hadn't posted.

One had to see the full video and audio to understand how badly Hillary handled it. Hopefully it will get more play.

[nadinbrzezinski]

67. CNN has a video with audio

It is just that FB ain't gonna let me embed it anywhere else

[KoKo]

75. Was it with Jake Tapper?

I've been surprised that CNN seems to be doing a better job with coverage of Bernie in the past couple of weeks than MSNBC has. And, Jake Tapper and Cuomo have been very fair. I don't like CNN in general, but the election coverage has me watching more MSM than I've done in years. Most of it is so filled with Trump, though, that I have to take a break.

[nadinbrzezinski]

77. No, this morning

And I have a theory why CNNis dong a better job. We have ourselves a real primary and they know (access to information) that Bernie has a chance. No use in pussing one side.

[Petrushka]

79. Here's another video with audio . . . one that I was able to post on FB --->

[nadinbrzezinski]

81. I mean their video of a news story

With this running with sound

[Mthomas1011]

86. Andrea wife of Bernanke?

Andrea Mitchell and MSNBC is in the Clintons fold as well! That's well known!

[KoKo]

121. No..Alan Greenspan former "Chair of the Federal Reserve"..

Who didn't serve the American People very well:

His Hstory From Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan

[Oilwellian]

116. It's important to listen to the very end

The end where Hillary said: "Uh, OK, back to the issues, the issues that I think are important."

That is her message to the Black Lives Matter movement. Period.

[LovingA2andMI]

40. It's Been Talked About..

On CNN, MSNBC and Fox News This Morning. Will be Covered by TYT, Ring of Fire and Thom Hartmann. Is being Spread By #BlackTwitterForBernie and On Podcast and Vlogs on by Black Twitter for Bernie Supporters.

It WILL cost her votes in South Carolina. If Bernie get the margin within 10 points -- that enough. Then it's on to Super Tuesday and believe us Social media is NOT letting this go.

It Is Time For African-Americans to Know #WhichHillary is the #RealHillary before they vote.

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. We picked it up

in media we call this growing legs. The fact that nationals have gone there, as well as Raw Story, and me, this will be picked up

And I also checked black twitter, it is blowing there as well.

[nxylas]

74. Excuse my ignorance, but who's "we"?

I know you're a reporter, but not which outfit you work for.

[monicaangela]

72. Here are just a few

http://www.abc-7.com/story/31315133/black-lives-matter-protesters-confront-clinton-at-a-fundraiser

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/25/politics/hillary-clinton-black-lives-matter-whichhillary/index.html

http://www.msnbc.com/way-too-early/watch/black-lives-matter-activists-interrupt-clinton-631020099759

and there are many more national and local stations reporting on this.

[KoKo]

92. Great Links for those of us who missed it..Thanks!

Hilly didn't handle this well at all. Hillary chastises her and then turns her back on the whole scene of Ashley being escorted out of the building after paying $500.00 to attend the event.

Neither Bernie Sanders nor Martin O'Malley were ever disrespectful to BLM Protestors. This is one of the reasons I support Bernie. Hillary's "other side" when revealed shows her lack of concern for the very people she is saying she cares about. Why not take Ashley aside and let her express why she is protesting and answer her right there.

That this was a Private Fund Raiser might mean why she was so dismissive of Ashley. Because she could. If this had been one of her big rallies she wouldn't have felt she could get away with what she did in that private environment.

Good for Huff Po for getting the video.

[monicaangela]

96. I agree with your comment KoKo

Regarding the tactics Hillary used, my feeling has always been that you can tell a lot about a persons true feelings if you catch them off guard. Ashley Williams presence at that fundraiser was unexpected, and I don't believe Hillary felt video of the event would get out. As you say, if this had been one of her public events where she gives speeches about how much she loves what BLM is doing, she would have handled it in an altogether different manner, in my neighborhood we call that hypocrisy.

[arcane1]

106. Hillary was surrounded by "her" people, after all. Rich and white n/t

[CorporatistNation]

119. Agreed... It IS SAD! MINIMAL At Best... PERFUNCTORY? Of Course....

http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm




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Characteristics Of Fascism
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Source Free Inquiry.co
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Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

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9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

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12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

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[askew]

32. I'd guess the age split will happen with AA voters as it has with Latino and White voters.

This has really taken off on social media whereas traditional media is downplaying it or ignoring it.
And younger voters don't get their news from traditional outlets anymore.

I think a lot of younger voters are just finding out about some of Hillary's appalling record in the 1990s/early 2000s.

If that is the case, the polls will have to be pretty far off. They have Hillary winning SC by 30-40 pts.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. The polls might start to reflect this, and start is the operative word

Tom and I were talking about it, if Sanders gets even closer, and by that I mean within 10 points, it will send the commentariat and the campaign into a real panic, This is the true firewall, not Nevada. Super Tuesday is when AA peak in importance for both campaigns.

Of course this is exploding in social media.

That was the story we ran actually, and also ran the other conversation, because I think it is important to put this in full context

http://reportingsandiego.com/2016/02/25/whichhillary-explodes-overnight-could-affect-the-clinton-campaign/

[askew]

43. I think by Sanders missing in Nevada it has really hurt his momentum.

I think even with this video getting out there, it won't be enough to bring SC to a 10 point race unless polling is way off and is underestimating the youth vote.

Can you register to vote same-day in SC? If so, I can see this having a bigger impact as young voters get angry enough to register and vote against Hillary on Saturday.

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. I see the potential for polling to be way off

that said, no you can't, from registgrar

Voter Registration in South Carolina:



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-be a United States citizen
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-not be under a court order declaring you mentally incompetent
-not be confined in any public prison resulting from a conviction of a crime
-have never been convicted of a felony or offense against the election
laws OR if previously convicted, have served the entire sentence,
including probation or parole, or have received a pardon for the conviction.
A citizen who wishes to register to vote can complete a voter registration application at their county board of voter registration.

[askew]

76. Good piece. I wish others in the media spent enough time to discuss the full context.

I have hope Rachel might tonight.

And I hope if Bernie is asked about it by Chris Matthews he doesn't blow it off.

[nadinbrzezinski]

78. I know I got to do one

On why Bernie voted for the bill. After a conversation this morning I realized many do not understand how riders work

[99th_Monkey]

19. Social media is where the pesky "transcripts issue" blew-up initially. There is hope. nt

[Dustlawyer]

14. I bet the "Fainting couch" was full!

They probably thought she was with the catering company and didn't belong in that room! They would never even think that she paid her money to be there!

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. Given where you live

I know you are close.

I know that I can say that happens in places like Mexico where i grew up.

Racism can be a double edged sword, and at times it can be very, very, very sharp indeed.

[Merryland]

16. Right!

"you're trespassing" implies she wasn't supposed to be in the room with all those rich (dare I say mostly white) people.

[sarge43]

30. Never occurred that the Secret Service would have vetted her and everyone else with access.

If Ms Williams hadn't shown a valid id and a receipt for payment, she wouldn't have been within a hundred yards of Clinton, let alone in the room.

Not our kind, don'tchaknow

just in case

[loyalsister]

55. That isn't how those funraisers work

With the mostly white crowd, I bet they were relived to have her there - at first. I'm sure they were worried about potential media coverage of an event that was obviously not inclusive.

[sarge43]

56. Just saying she couldn't have trespassed.

Having a young woman of color might take the edge off 'exclusive' .. temporarily.

[loyalsister]

58. She paid the $500 to attend

The secret service does not vet guests at those high dollar fundraisers. They trust people with money.

[sarge43]

62. $500 is nothing to people with money

The fee was probably kept low because Clinton has been getting some criticism for charging 2K and more to get in the room.

Minimum, the names were run through the data base ... police records, threatening letters etc, especially for a low dollar admittance affair.

If the past few decades have taught anything it's dirt bags can have money, lots of it.

[Divernan]

85. Old South ladies: " NOKD - Not Our Kind, Dear."

[femmedem]

101. It's on the front page of The Root

and their story includes the Super Predator video.

[nadinbrzezinski]

103. Boom goes the dynamite

The root is very influential.

I sadly need to do a story on bills and riders. I know this is wonky stuff.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

5. Unless they signed a contract promising no protests, I hope they got their $500 apiece back.

Given that they were given the boot and told they were 'trespassing'.

[John Poet]

49. The whole rollout of the Congressional Black Caucus PAC endorsement

reminded me a lot of 'Gone With The Wind'.

It was pretty clear that orders had come down from the Big House...

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

2. Might be the official one, but here on DU, it's

So, some folks are accusing Bernie Sanders Supporters of "Selective Outrage" as it relates to Ashley Williams and Clinton Handlers Throwing Ms. Williams out of an Fundraising Event SHE PAID $500.00 to be at.

Because Bernie supporters were upset when it looked like Bernie was the candidate being targeted by BLM, they're all automatically hypocrites when they point out how Hillary is treating BLM folks like crap every time she runs into them.

[pdsimdars]

20. Hillary gave them the boot, Bernie gave them the mic

You don't see a difference there???

[jillan]

35. This gets me. When it happened to Bernie, first I was surprised. Never had seen protesters so

in-your-face before.... more used to the Code Pink style of protesting.

But then I was happy. I thought - GOOD! Bernie needs to be challenged & to hear what these women have to say.
And he needs to be able to answer their questions.

Any candidate running for President should be challenged. Period.
They are running to be the leader of ALL of US.

[Matariki]

52. Same here

I'm in Seattle. My first reaction admittedly was 'wtf, why Sanders?', but the more I thought about it the more I realized what a smart tactic it was. And it took about a 1/2 hour from when I heard about it to go from 'wtf' to 'good'.

Sanders handled it smartly that day. Clinton could have handled things better last night, but the crowd in that room perhaps should be given the benefit of the doubt given the surprise of the protest. How it's handled today by team Clinton will be the real test. Use it to explain her past words and an opportunity for honest discussion or throw BLM under the bus?

[Arazi]

61. The HRC supporters there were HISSING at Ashley Williams!

calling out that she was trespassing! at an event she paid to be at

No way should those crowds be given the benefit of the doubt

[jwirr]

44. Ouch.

[leftofcool]

3. Nope. There have been many Hillary supporters defending Ashley.

I am one of them and there are many others.

[Bread and Circus]

24. Prior to Ashley have you condemned Clinton's words and deeds in the matters?

[NCTraveler]

6. So many seem to not get it.

I support BLM over either candidate. Period.

[randome]

7. Or some hold a different opinion than you.

Nah! Just kidding! That's not possible!

Let's see, multiple threads about this incident and what could one make of that...I know! "So...the official talking point from BSHQ re:..." You can fill in the rest.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]

[earthside]

10. Many Hillarians are just like Trump supporters.

It just doesn't matter.
Period.

"First Woman President!"

End of discussion.

[gwheezie]

12. I continue to support blm

After netroots, I was expecting and supporting blm confronting all the candidates who are asking for the black vote.

[gwheezie]

18. I bet she supported Palin too

I remember all those posts attacking the netroots activists.

[Beacool]

17. So...the official talking point from Sanders' supporters re: Ashley Williams is to embrace her?

Please.........

[Luminous Animal]

25. Many Bernie supporters and Bernie took the advice, "Listen and learn. It appears Hillary didn't get

the message.

[John Poet]

50. Hillary has more 'important' things to talk about....

After all, she doesn't have to worry about getting thrown in jail and beaten up or shot just because of her skin color.

(although she may have other reasons to worry about getting thrown in jail)

[Luminous Animal]

68. ....

[John Poet]

71. Hillary is the best candidate

for talking out of both sides of her mouth. We've known that about her for a long time, so this really is no surprise.

Only "White Contributors Matter".

[Betty Karlson]

90. That is the advice I took to heart. eom

[farleftlib]

28. when BLM protestors interrupted Bernie

He let them talk, he didn't have his goons put their hands all over a young woman and push her out the door.

Sanders supporters don't need talking points.

[oasis]

66. When BLM protesters interrupted Bernie it was in response to police

murders of black citizens. William's supposed outrage was in response to a 20+ year old, moth eaten, Brietbartized video. Hillary was actually speaking out against gang violence, including murder, in minority communities.

A whale of a difference.

[AtheistCrusader]

82. Thank you for putting that in text.

Very helpful. Your focus and special pleading is noted.

[farleftlib]

88. Bernie didn't commit those police murders

Bernie didn't defend those police murders. Bernie has been outspoken on this topic.

Hillary did use a racist dog whistle. She needs to apologize for that crap.

[oasis]

98. Huh??? In response to your 1st three sentences.

"No" in response to the last two.

[Cassiopeia]

89. Hillary's response was the biggest difference.

Hide the voter and the message. Escort her out of the room while having the last word.

[oasis]

95. If the message was: " I am not a super predator" .

and Williams wanted Hill to confirm it for her, maybe she should have chosen a different venue.

[Cassiopeia]

100. The venue is the least important aspect of this entire situation.

She had every right to be there. Hillary just didn't want any negative message at the time and handled it poorly and in a most disrespectful manner.

[oasis]

102. A "private residence" was selected for the sole purpose of donors

getting a chance to meet with HILLARY and hear what she had to say about current issues. They didn't pay $500 to hear about a 20 year old non issue.

[morningfog]

104. No, they didn't want to soil their little minds with that kinds of discomfort.

[islandmkl]

115. oh...so they had 'rules' for attendance...like the $500 was so cheap...

you couldn't step 'out of line'....

if you want to take the $$ what the fuck does a 'private residence' have to do with anything?...

oh wait...was it in a gated community, too?

how the hell did those two girls get in? just by paying $500 each?

if you want to keep people out, raise your prices...you know, to like $225K...

[Cassiopeia]

118. She paid $500 to bring it up.

I would say that clearly makes it a concern.

[artislife]

93. She runs on her "long political career". It's game. nt

[eridani]

123. WEll, no. Actually the representatives of Social Security Works who were on stage--

--let them talk.

[jillan]

39. Embrace? No. Listen? Yes. Have her taken away? No. Acknowledge her as a paying guest? Yes

Sit down and talk with her after your spiel? Hell yes.

[one_voice]

23. I've seen many Hillary supporters

say they continue to support BLM, which would include Ashley Williams.

[Luminous Animal]

27. While making excuses for Hillary's represehensible behavior that promoted institutional

racism.

[one_voice]

48. goal posts moved.

that's an entirely different discussion.

However, I've been thinking about this. I've talked to my members of my family that are black, including my dad, a big ole Hillary supporter. I've listened to all their views and opinions.

I will take their views to heart and think about them. Over people on a message board that are more concerned with pushing their candidate than listening to what someone else has to say.

I believe you wrongly assumed I was Hillary supporter, I'm not. I'm undecided. This happens all the time though, if I say anything that is deemed positive about Hillary, I get something negative thrown at me.

Funny when I say something positive about Bernie, I don't get the negative stuff thrown at me.

Have a great day.

[A Simple Game]

70. A different discussion? What the hell do you think "bring them to heel" stands for?

Bring them ice tea and cookies? It means send them to jail. Can you get any more institutional than that with your racism?

[Petrushka]

99. "Bring them to heel" is to force them to obey you and means, literally, to order a dog . . .

. . . to walk close behind you.

[rbrnmw]

37. exactly and this the last thing I will say in GDP about it

BLM is more important than any politician I will also say Hillary needs to address this. I am proud of Ashley Williams. I won't forget the things that were said about BLM this summer.

[valerief]

26. Hillary "All Lives Matter" Clinton at 2:15

Yeah, she gets it.

[NaturalHigh]

41. Oh, I know.

It is so horrible to say that all lives matter.

[JoeyT]

60. Well, while all lives DO matter, the

All lives matter response to Black Lives Matter was similar to the "No, I'm an egalitarian!" response to feminists. It's a way to pretend people that are asking for equality are supremacists trying to oppress others.

White lives matter just as much as black lives....but white people aren't far more likely to be beaten, harassed, jailed, or killed based entirely on their skin color....Which is why "All lives matter" is a ridiculous response to people saying that black lives matter. The value of white lives was never in question.

[vdogg]

29. Why won't you hop on our selective outrage bandwagon?!?!?!

[sarge43]

33. Because all the seats are already taken up by Clinton supporters?

[That Guy 888]

38. How do you think Clinton should respond when this question comes up again?

Or are you happy with her response last night and feel that nothing more needs to be said?

[BostonBob]

31. Financial superpredators for Hillary

Of course some of the biggest financial superpredators are Hillary's friends/benefactors at Goldman Sachs. They were particularly destructive to the AA communities on which they preyed.

[LovingA2andMI]

36. Well BLM...

Is not a useful talking point for them anymore. I'm just waiting to see the articles on Ashley Williams or BLM on the Clinton Media Network (CMN).

What is CMN? Here you go...

[jillan]

42. Don't forget Msnbc/Nbc owned by Comcast who holds $$ fundraisers for Hillary

http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2015/06/12/comcast-exec-david-cohen-clinton-fundraiser.html

There is supposedly another one coming up.

[LovingA2andMI]

45. Fair Point!!

[zentrum]

51. Yes, must "Get

…Back To The Issues".

Seems like an apt HRC acronym to handle BLM when they interrupt the script: GBTTI.

[Mira]

53. I laud Ashley's courage to bring it to national attention.

My grandson who is young and half a country away from me sent me a clip of the incident, a rare thing to happen from him.
I think Mrs. Clinton's reaction was terror hidden under the cloak of presenting a strong leader female, an incredible opportunity to make friends and influence squandered. What was needed was a recognition of the deep emotion behind the question the banner raised, not a self-serving absence of compassion.

Additionally, to me who watches things carefully the avoidance of an answer without the advice and consent of her handlers makes me even more distrustful than I already am.
"She had to take her reaction under advisement", when hugging a hurting "baby" and some well chosen words from the heart could have made a real difference.

Yes, I want a woman President. But not this woman.

[monicaangela]

80. I couldn't agree more with your comment than I do Mira!

[Mira]

107. thank you monicaangela

(my middle name is Angela, and it was my Mom's first name) we are sisters.

[monicaangela]

108. We are, my middle name as you can see is Angela

pronounced Ahngheyla phonetically.

[Mira]

109. hard "g" for mine :) n/t

[monicaangela]

111. German pronunciation?

[Mira]

112. I'm an immigrant

came on a coal freighter from Germany - became a citizen to vote for McGovern. Democrat always.

[monicaangela]

113. Wow, this really is a coincidence

I was born in Bayreuth to parents with American citizenship. It is really nice to meet you Mira, good to see voted for McGovern, too bad he didn't win against Nixon, this country would be a much different place now if he had...well, at least that is my belief.

[Mira]

114. On DU

it sometimes is only 3 degrees of separation. It is a real joy to meet you, too.

[Political_Junkie]

110. Hear! Hear!

[dcbuckeye]

57. I'm guessing this won't have much impact

I'm guessing this won't have much impact and if it does, it will be the younger African American voters who will be turned off, while the older and middle aged African American voters (who aren't connected to social media 24/7) won't think much of it. The younger voters don't go out and vote in big blocks (think Nevada).

[secondwind]

59. They are emulating their Queen...

[yellerpup]

63. A shrug...

Oh well, what can they say? Indefensible, really.

[loyalsister]

69. There's also the claim that equating gangs with AAs is racist

Even though no one has made that claim. They want to deny that "gangs" and "superpredators" in the early 90s were clear references to Black youth. Soon, dog whistle will probably be a racist term, as well.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

73. ....

(Note: Both campaigns are pretending to care about black people. Yes, BOTH! Many black people are well aware of how both campaigns are exploiting race and pretending to care about race/racism by using black surrogates. This is something that we notice and fully understand is happening.)

[giftedgirl77]

126. Yes indeed, it's an ongoing battle & is painfully obvious that

both campaigns are pretty tone deaf.

[Betty Karlson]

87. Clinton: "Now let's get back to the issues that matter"

If the candidate intimates that black lives do not matter, then why the supporters steer clear of dismissive, snooty bees and bonnets?

[arcane1]

105. BLM got thrown under the bus literally overnight. It's quite an achievement.

[Jitter65]

117. What struck me most about the TV interview was the blank look on Ashley's face when asked

if she held BS to the same accountability since he voted for that bill. I really don't think this is widely known among BLM.

[grasswire]

122. well, perhaps she knows WHY he voted for that bill.

Because of certain provisions in it that have nothing to do with the horrible effect on PoC.

[eridani]

124. Imagine what Clinton supporters would have said if he had voted

--against the Violence Against Women Act attached to it?

[Jitter65]

127. So you believe that Hillary did not feel strongly about the VAW as Bernie? nt

[eridani]

128. I said that she sould be lambasting him now for voting against it. n/t

[Skwmom]

129. They are too busy congratulating each other over the replaying of that dog whistle.