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TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:22 PM Feb 2016

For the "They'll get in line" folks...

There's something that is seriously being under appreciated when I hear this come from posters on this site and that's the kind of mental leap it will take for some Sanders supporters to vote for Hillary.

Sanders and Clinton are running two very different campaigns. Sanders supporters are quite passionate about a few things, among others:
- Getting money out of politics
- Consistent messaging
- Going hard against the Republicans

Hillary isn't necessarily the paragon of these virtues (Incrementalism is, in many opinions, not he best way to go head to head against Republican obstruction). For people struggling to support her it will come down to sacrificing some core principles. That's a big deal!

Myself, I'm a Sanders supporter. I will have to cement my nose shut in order to vote for Hillary in the fall should I be forced to. Every passing day as she and her campaign (not supporters, can't judge a candidate by its supporters, it's not right) get slimier, it gets harder. There needs to be a serious outreach beyond yelling "SUPREME COURT!" to show some appreciation of what Sanders has done and worked for.

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For the "They'll get in line" folks... (Original Post) TCJ70 Feb 2016 OP
Okie dokie leftofcool Feb 2016 #1
"They'll get in line" SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #2
I don't expect all to fall in line. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #3
Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #4
Meh Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #5
"Madam, that is not enough." Fumesucker Feb 2016 #15
Most will Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #16
I expect as usual most will go to work or stay home or shop or go boating or skiing or something Fumesucker Feb 2016 #17
Not if they are Dems Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #18
"Madam, that is not enough." Fumesucker Feb 2016 #19
Do Sanders supporters think they are unique? 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #6
No, but it's not even about self image... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #12
That may or may not be true 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #14
They'll get in line. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #7
Keep telling yourself that... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #10
What are you gonna do, "bring us to heel"? n/t VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #11
LOL Hahahahahahaha farleftlib Feb 2016 #21
Turnout is a perennial Dem problem. Orsino Feb 2016 #8
If she's the Dem. candidate ... Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #9
Better dead resisting than alive and complicit. n/t VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #13
I think not to vote against Trump or whoever the eventual R nominee is Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #20
decades of blaming Dem voters and confounding internet forums with reality MisterP Feb 2016 #22
I don't think I will be "brought to heel" this time. Barack_America Feb 2016 #23
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. I don't expect all to fall in line.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:26 PM
Feb 2016

I expect people to vote in the countries best interests. Some will vote in their own best interests. And some won't vote.

Who woulda thunk it.

This is probably the easiest primary ever for me to decide. Once O'Malley didn't gain traction, it was Clinton all the way. I'll still vote for Sanders, even with my great reservations, if he is victorious in the primary.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
4. Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:30 PM
Feb 2016
Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost. John Quincy Adams

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
5. Meh
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:31 PM
Feb 2016

People will vote how they want to vote.

But, the majority of Democrats will vote for the Democrat. It'll happen.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
15. "Madam, that is not enough."
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:00 PM
Feb 2016

What Adlai Stevenson once told a woman who said every thinking person would vote for him...

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
6. Do Sanders supporters think they are unique?
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 03:56 PM
Feb 2016

I supported Teddy, I got in line for Jimmy Carter.
I supported Hart, I got in line for Mondale.
I supported Dean, I got in line for Kerry.
I supported Hillary, I got in line for Barack Obama.

My self image is not as important as the well being of the nation.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
12. No, but it's not even about self image...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:15 PM
Feb 2016

...it's about what she represents vs Sanders. They're extremely different in regards to methodology, rhetoric, and campaign style. It can be a big leap for people to move, what they consider, backwards.

Ask yourself this: What do you lose with a Sanders nomination? Would you have to give up anything to vote for him? What does he stand for that you don't agree with?

I bet that list is far shorter going from Clinton to Sanders than it is the other way around.

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
14. That may or may not be true
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:56 PM
Feb 2016

And if Bernie is the nominee, I will put aside my concerns that he would be a disaster as both a candidate and, if by some miracle he is elected, as a president, vote for him and hope for the best.

I don't see why I should expect less from Sanders supporters than I am willing to agree to myself.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
10. Keep telling yourself that...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:13 PM
Feb 2016

...in the meantime, you should probably get ready to says President Trump.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
8. Turnout is a perennial Dem problem.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:00 PM
Feb 2016

Lockstep is for the other side, where money, fear and bullshit are more successfully unifies than real issues.

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
9. If she's the Dem. candidate ...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:11 PM
Feb 2016

I'll be voting Green unless a movement arises to get people to write Bernie's name in, then I'll be writing his name in.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
20. I think not to vote against Trump or whoever the eventual R nominee is
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:10 PM
Feb 2016

in swing states would be foolish, but in states that are clearly Republican or clearly Democratic, a person should be able to vote their conscience without being bullied about it. I still have no regrets about my Nader vote (gasp!) in 2000 because Alaska wasn't going to vote for Al Gore that year anyway. My vote made not one iota of difference.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
22. decades of blaming Dem voters and confounding internet forums with reality
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:22 AM
Feb 2016

has made the ruling faction blame online criticisms and dissent from the left for every one of their failures: it's strongest in 2010-14, and they have no reason to think that the losses are a problem because they let them further blame the voters

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