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seafan

(9,387 posts)
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:50 PM Feb 2016

'A vote for Bernie Sanders is a vote against The Machine.'

Salon:



Democratic presidential candidates Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt, left, and Hillary Rodham Clinton take the stage before a Democratic presidential primary debate at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, Thursday, Feb. 11, 2016, in Milwaukee. (Credit: (AP Photo/Morry Gash)), via Salon


Despite Bernie Sanders being tied with her for pledged delegates after last weekend’s Nevada caucuses, the media herd has anointed Hillary Clinton yet again as the inevitable Democratic nominee. Superdelegates, those undemocratic figureheads and goons of the party establishment, are by definition unpledged and fluid and should never be added to the official column of any candidate until the national convention. To do so is an amoral tactic of intimidation that affects momentum and gives backstage wheeling and dealing primacy over the will of the electorate. Why are the media so servilely complicit with Clinton-campaign propaganda and trickery?

Democrats face a stark choice this year. A vote for the scandal-plagued Hillary is a resounding ratification of business as usual–the corrupt marriage of big money and machine politics, practiced by the Clintons with the zest of Boss Tweed, the gluttonous czar of New York’s ruthless Tammany Hall in the 1870s. What you also get with Hillary is a confused hawkish interventionism that has already dangerously destabilized North Africa and the Mideast.

.....

Thanks to several years of the Democratic party establishment strong-arming younger candidates off the field for Hillary, the only agent for fundamental change remains Bernie Sanders, an honest and vanity-free man who has been faithful to his core progressive principles for his entire career. It is absolutely phenomenal that Sanders has made such progress nationally against his near total blackout over the past year by the major media, including the New York Times. That he has inspired the hope and enthusiasm of an immense number of millennial women is very encouraging.

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A vote for Bernie Sanders is a vote against the machine, the obscenely money-mad and soulless juggernaut that the Democratic Party has become. Perhaps there was a time, during the Hubert Humphrey era, when Democrats could claim to be populists, alive to the needs and concerns of working-class people. But the party has become the playground of white, upper-middle-class professionals with elite-school degrees and me-first values. These liberal poseurs mouth racial and ethnic platitudes, acquired like trophy kills at their p.c. campuses, but every word rings hollow, because it is based on condescension, a patronizing projection of victimhood onto those outside their privileged circle.

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Here are the flaming words of one of my heroes, Mario Savio, leader of the Free Speech Movement at the University of California at Berkeley. In 1964, he declared from the steps of Sproul Hall to a crowd of 4,000 protesters: “There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart that you can’t take part! You can’t even passively take part! And you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop!”




via UK Independent





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'A vote for Bernie Sanders is a vote against The Machine.' (Original Post) seafan Feb 2016 OP
That Marco Savio reference tore the words out of my mouth. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #1
The level of odiousness of the system is just right about there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #5
As Long as the Machine is Legal Under Current Law Stallion Feb 2016 #2
The Koch bros funded the DLC and the Clinton machine. Any hope that she would change things is a Vincardog Feb 2016 #3
And He's About to Lose on Principals Stallion Feb 2016 #4
You keep supporting the status quo and tell me about the changes we can expect. Vincardog Feb 2016 #6
I Will Thanks Stallion Feb 2016 #7
Neither wil they happen under Hillary the NeoCon hawk. What do we want? Incrimental change! When Vincardog Feb 2016 #8
Good Luck to Ever Getting a Socialist or Liberal Democrat Elected in Your Life Time Stallion Feb 2016 #10
Thank you; I am working every hard to make that happen Vincardog Feb 2016 #12
I can damn near guarantee that HRH hifiguy Feb 2016 #11
You do realize the author of this article is an Obama birther, right? Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #9
Did she personally make any comments on birtherism post-2010 of which you are aware? n/t xocet Feb 2016 #18
Camille Paglia. LOL... SidDithers Feb 2016 #13
Sad isn't it, Sid? Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #15
Did you see the thread sourcing Kerry Jackson, posted this morning?... SidDithers Feb 2016 #16
Holy right wing sourcing, Batman! Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #17
Recommended! H2O Man Feb 2016 #14
You sure you want to recommend articles written by Camille Paglia? Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #19
I recommended an OP. H2O Man Feb 2016 #20
Yes, but the article was written by Camille Paglia Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #21
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service JackRiddler Feb 2016 #22
Juror 2. Boom. End of story. n/t VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #23
You got me. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #24

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
1. That Marco Savio reference tore the words out of my mouth.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:55 PM
Feb 2016

The machine must be prevented from working, dismantled if necessary.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
5. The level of odiousness of the system is just right about there.
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:18 PM
Feb 2016

I'm about a hair away from never taking part in politics ever again. Doing a Pontius Pilate, and sitting back to watch the world go down in flames.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
2. As Long as the Machine is Legal Under Current Law
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 04:57 PM
Feb 2016

I'm voting for Clinton so I don't get run over by the Koch funded Republican bus. Then I expect her to nominate Justices to overturn Citizen's United and its progeny and make proposals to change campaign finance laws that can pass Congress. This idea of tying your hands behind your back against the well-funded Republican Machine is crazy. She didn't make the rules-she's playing by the ones forced upon us

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
3. The Koch bros funded the DLC and the Clinton machine. Any hope that she would change things is a
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:14 PM
Feb 2016

PIPE DREAM. Bernie is tied with her with his hands tied behind his back and the whole corrupt system working against him.

He has the same rules but he also has PRINCIPALES.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
7. I Will Thanks
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:24 PM
Feb 2016

My Top 4 under Obama:
1. ACA
2. Equal Rights
3. No new wars
4. Hundreds of new Federal court justices including 2 real good Supreme Court picks-maybe 3

None of which would have happened under a Republican administration

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
8. Neither wil they happen under Hillary the NeoCon hawk. What do we want? Incrimental change! When
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:27 PM
Feb 2016

Do we want it? Eventually! Good luck defeating the GOP with that slogan.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
11. I can damn near guarantee that HRH
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:35 PM
Feb 2016

will start a new boots-on-the-ground war within six months if she ever gets in the WH. She's a neoliberal with a belligerent, imperialistic neocon foreign policy. Diplomacy Last, if ever.

The ACA is a gigantic scam designed to further enrich Big Insurance and Big Pharma.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
16. Did you see the thread sourcing Kerry Jackson, posted this morning?...
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 05:55 PM
Feb 2016

This is the guy that a poster felt was just the right guy to use to attack a Democrat on DU.

https://twitter.com/ibd_kjackson

I think it's gone past sad.



Sid

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
21. Yes, but the article was written by Camille Paglia
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:09 PM
Feb 2016

Who is Camille Paglia?

She's an Obama birther who praised the tea party movement.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/18/784050/-

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
22. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:22 PM
Feb 2016

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'A vote for Bernie Sanders is a vote against The Machine.'
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511338142

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ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This article, referring to elected Democrats as "goons", was written by Camille Paglia (check the link), a BIRTHER.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-congress/2009/09/paglias-a-birther-021461

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Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: What facts of the article are in dispute?

At 36:00 in the audio (http://onpoint.wbur.org/2009/09/16/questions-of-civility), it seems like Paglia has something different to say than supporting a birtherist position. She seems to say that racism is definitely part of that absurd movement, but that others in the group might be otherwise motivated and that broadbrush labelling of the entire group kills any conversation of any possible legitimate views. I don't an anyway support birtherism, but the audio seems to support a conclusion other than what the alerter's referenced article notes. This is a quick assessment of what was adduced in the alert.

The article does not seem to need to be hidden at first glance.




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