Hillary may win this. But at what cost?

[redgreenandblue]

Bernie should have not been possible. That he made it this far IMO shows the dissatisfaction the base has with her and mainstream Democrats and ultimately also shows her weakness as a candidate for the general election. All that enthusiasm amongst young voters. Where is it going to go? Hillary ran a scorched earth campaign par excellence. The ideological rift that runs through the Democratic party was never more obvious. This isn't like 2008. It is much deeper.

This is going to boil over in one way or another and it won't be pretty.

[EdwardBernays]

1. What cost?

[daleanime]

2. Afraid you're right.

[seaotter]

3. It would be a HUGE price. This is the "price" of a Hillary nomination.

[Merryland]

4. Oh yes, so true.

Bernie has energized a lot, a lot of people who are young enough to continue to fight for change - plus us older ones who'll protest & move things forward like never before. This sounds stupid, but I'm moved to tears by Bernie Sanders. What a wonderful President he will make.
An FDR for our times.

[libtodeath]

5. The hopes and enthusiasm of the young voters will be the main cost.

[HooptieWagon]

8. Long term, you are 100% correct.

Clinton will make sure an entire generation of Millenials rejects the Democratic Party.

[libtodeath]

10. She could be handing the repukes the wheel for decades.

[mythology]

18. Because everything should be handed to them

You make them sound like self-entitled snots. If they are out voted, the response will be foot stomping and breath holding. I tried that once when I was 3. My mom left me and continued shopping. I stopped whining, got up and realized that sometimes you have to deal with not getting what you want and sometimes you just need to work harder to get it.

[HooptieWagon]

20. They are voting age adults, not children.

It's exactly your attitude that's driven them away from the party.
The actual truth of the matter is they're not looking for 'free stuff'. Their future was mortgaged so the wealthy could have low taxes. You're trying to stick them with the bill. They want to go to college without becoming heavily in debt, get decent-paying jobs, be able to afford a home, be able to afford healthcare...not be stuck with the bill for endless war and a polluted planet.

[retrowire]

21. Sooo if the system doesn't work for you, but rather against you...

You're saying the "adult" thing to do is to keep playing by those rules?

Fuck that, I'm an American voter, and I should have the power along with the majority of citizens to MAKE THE DAMN RULES.

YOUR POST makes millenials seem like self entitled snots.

If we DON'T win, and we KNOW we did our best, then yeah, there'll be a TON of a disenchantment.

[H2O Man]

6. Recommended.

That's a valid question. Thank you for posing it.

In my opinion, we have two options, that are at opposite extremes. If the Democratic Party nominates Bernie Sanders, we will win the general election. That opens the doors to the best potential for our country at this time.

If Bernie does not get the nomination, I believe we are in for a troubled time.

[RobertEarl]

12. From one old fart to another

We have been witness to much in our lives. Being that we have come from different places and arriving at the same place, it should behoove others to realize we are not kidding around when we both proclaim that Bernie is the best for the future, and if not elected the country is headed for deeper troubles.

[H2O Man]

15. I agree 100% !!!

Rubin Carter used to tell me that, if you want to know what tomorrow will bring, simply look at yesterday. For each day is a consequence of the last. The only thing that can change is human beings. And, when a person changes, everything around them must also change. Hence, if a million people wake up, and make the same conscious changes, it translates into meaningful -- as opposed to a mere consequence of continuing to do the same things, over and over.

I was reading a DU interview that I did with friend Mark Rudd years ago. I might use it again, in a DU:GDP essay on the power of movements. Mark has evolved over the years, and is a heck of a good spokesperson for our generation. What do you think? Should I work on that for my next OP?

[RobertEarl]

16. I am not familar with Rudd

So, yes, I'd like to read about him.

We have both been fairly publicly active, you probably more so than I. So when we say that change across the whole landscape DOES begin with the actions of one, we know whereof we speak. It seems the youngsters are coming along rather well. Seems it is those of our generation that are still mired in thinking that continuing the same old is somehow best.

We know change must happen, and happen soon. Were I too advise you, this is what my advice would be: work on us old farts.

[H2O Man]

17. Mark was the president

of the group Students for Democratic Society (SDS) in the 1960s, and became a leader in the Weathermen and eventually Weather Underground. He helped lead the shut-down at Columbia University.

Later in life, he would teach math at a community college. At times, even in a math class, the conversations included political issues. And some students would ask him what he did in the 1960s?

[hifiguy]

7. No cost to her or the Corporate DINOS of her ilk.

That beautiful, delicious corporate cash - the only thing they live for - will continue rolling in when HRH goes down in flames, ala the Hindenburg. And she will unless they somehow nominate Tailgunner Ted Cruz.

[wyldwolf]

9. threats?

In effect, you're saying the minority of Democratic voters, including the youth vote that has the lowest turnout of any other group, will hold the Democratic party hostage (or worse) if we don't nominate Bernie Sanders.

[sufrommich]

11. Who do you think the base is?

It's not white college students who show up for rallies,in fact the most consistent democratic voter is African American women,follwed by African Americans in general,single working women,Latinos,union workers and lgbq voters.You don't speak for "the base",nobody on DU does.

[wyldwolf]

13. Just for clarity: progressives and hardcore liberals are not the base of the Democratic Party.

Women voters, African American voters, Hispanic and Latino voters, teachers and other union voters are the base of the Democratic Party. Have been for decades.

We are what you'd call the "activist base," but we ain't the base. The true base of the Democratic Party outnumbers us 10-1, but even if they didn't, the party wouldn't cater to us. Why? Because we are very nearly impossible to hold together as a coalition. We are, for the most part, the purists, and we bolt when we get disappointed. The aforementioned groups are far easier to hold together, they are far more dependable as Democratic voters, and thus are the base of the party.

This probably won't be a popular statement here, but so be it. I've seen ten dozen posts warning the Democratic Party about "pissing off the base," mneaning progressives and serious liberals, but that ain't the base of the party. - WilliamPitt

[TIME TO PANIC]

14. The Republicans will have the White House and both houses of congress.

... and potentially a few Supreme Court appointees.

[PonyUp]

19. We will end up with a game show host for president. nt