Why do Bernie supporters keep falsely claiming Hillary called "black kids"....

[MaggieD]

... super predators?

She called GANGS super predators. I would urge you to stop conflating gangs with "black kids." Gangs and "black kids" are not synonymous. Nor were they in the 90's. Gangs are comprised of every race I can think of. Always have been. In fact I think the concept of gangs actually started with white kids.

It is as similarly offensive as when a person seems to believe that AA have an overriding interest in welfare as a political issue to the exclusion of many other issues (as I have seen here plenty). Same thing. Lots of white people on welfare, in case you did not know that. More whites than blacks, in fact.

I don't want to say it's unintended racism to think like that, but it might be the impression you are leaving.

[seaotter]

1. Or, an impression you are implying.

[guillaumeb]

12. That looks like a whistle. Is it a dog whistle? What is it for?

Very nicely put.

[redgreenandblue]

2. BLM activists seem to think she meant "black kids". nt

[Nonhlanhla]

4. Well

since that is clearly a misunderstanding, why don't Bernie supporters help clear matters up? Since you all prize honesty so much and all.

[NorthCarolina]

9. Probably because we're saavy enough to know

that the "she was talking about GANGS" is a newly created meme to provide retroactive cover.

[Cobalt Violet]

15. She needs to clear it up herself if she want to be the next Pretzeldent!

It's not up to Bernie supporters to defend Hillary.

[Nonhlanhla]

64. And here I'm always told

that Bernie supporters hate lies and prize integrity..

[jeff47]

76. Well, thanks for telling us Reagan using "Welfare Queens" wasn't racist!!

I mean, he didn't explicitly say they were black, so clearly there was no racism involved!!!

Back in reality, one of the articles that popularized the term "superpredator" was titled "My Black Crime Problem, and Ours". DiIulio also claimed 50% of superpredators were black.

To pretend "superpredator" is not racially loaded is absurd.

[Nonhlanhla]

87. Your effort to associate

Hillary's speech with Reagan's racist dog whistling is just sad. Is this kind of smearing of Hillary all the Bernie camp has left?

[jeff47]

90. So you think Clinton had no idea the racial overtones of the word she used?

Really? Clinton was completely unaware of the racial overtones of superpredator?

Well, clearly then she has nothing to apologize fo.....oh whoops she just apologized for saying superpredator. So weird that she would apologize if the term was entirely race-neutral as you claim.

[AgingAmerican]

80. Because we would be accused of 'Whitespliaing'

[MaggieD]

29. Propaganda works on some folks

Doesn't change the fact that she did not call "black kids" super predators.

[wyldwolf]

3. of course she was referring to murderous drug dealing gangs

BLM - and everyone else - knows this unless they're dense.

[angrychair]

21. Dog whistle gone it, your right

I think you should go to Twitter and Facebook and say so immediately.
"Does anyone else hear a tone? I'm deaf to it."

[BillZBubb]

24. So, you are calling the BLM activist in question DENSE? It that correct?

[angrychair]

35. That is what i heard

[jeff47]

5. Because the guy who invented the term was talking about black kids.

Professor John DiIulio did not make race-neutral statements when he coined the term and published his theories.

[MaggieD]

10. Link to him calling black kids super predators?

Also, what phrase should she have used to discuss gang violence then? Not the word gang, apparently.

[morningfog]

13. She use the word gang. She said kids in gangs are super predators who need to be brought to heel.

[seaotter]

20. How about an entire essay??

http://www.city-journal.org/html/6_2_my_black.html

[MaggieD]

37. Well, you just disproved your theory

The only reference to black super predators in there is from a black person. Not the author. And the article was written AFTER she said this about gangs. So it appears someone took HER comment and decided to use it to smear black people. Sad that it was a black person. But it sure wasn't Hillary.

From your link:

"Rivers styles himself a “Christian black nationalist.” No one in America is less romantic about the record of inner-city black churches; no one is more realistic about their dwindling congregations, often near-empty coffers, and negative attraction to today’s angry young black males. At the same time, no one understands better that when you get right down to it, a resurrection of the inner-city black churches is the one and only key to the resurrection of civil society in crime-and-drugs-ravaged black inner-city neighborhoods. A moral problem—a deficit of conscience, of values, of connectedness—requires a moral solution, and only a moral institution that comes out of the black community, such as the black church, can bring to bear the moral authority to solve it. “It’s barbed wire and more black juvenile super-predators,” observes Rivers, “or civil society and stronger black churches. It’s that simple.”

[seaotter]

47. That is a stretch. Look here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._DiIulio,_Jr.



The reprobate "coined" the term in the 90s.

[MaggieD]

66. Again, after the time of her speech

And the reference goes right back to your link above.

[seaotter]

71. She used it as a dog whistle. She is smart enough to know what she was doing, she did it any way.

Now let's talk about the phrase "bring to heel".

[seaotter]

82. Looks like even Hillary , herself agrees with me.

Only 20 years too late.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/25/clinton-heckled-by-black-lives-matter-activist/

[MaggieD]

83. She's gracious - but she agrees with me - she did not call black kids super predators

[seaotter]

84. Nope, she knows she fucked up, and is only now making an attempt.

20 years too late.

[politicaljunkie41910]

91. The passage doesn't say what you claim it says. Try again, and this time read the complete statement

The passage does not imply that the term 'super-predators references black gang members only. Not even close. To say as many as half could be implies, that half or more are likely some race other than blacks.

"...The second reason to keep the champagne corked is that not only is the number of young black criminals likely to surge, but also the black crime rate, both black-on-black and black-on-white, is increasing, so that as many as half of these juvenile super-predators could be young black males. But just when we need to think most earnestly about black crime, the space for honest discourse about race and crime is shrinking. The evidence of that shrinkage is everywhere: in the lickety-split O.J. verdict and its racially polarized aftermath, in the utter certitude of many blacks that the justice system is rigged against them, in the belief of many whites that violent crime is synonymous with black crime and the fear they feel of every young black male passerby not wearing a tie or handcuffs. ..."

[seaotter]

92. Split those hairs in defense of the dog whistle.

Sorry., charlie, she said it she knew what it "meant" she is a smart lady and understood fully what she was "relaying".

[jeff47]

32. LMGTFY

http://bfy.tw/4SJb

He wasn't discussing gangs. He was discussing individuals. Mostly black, with some latinos thrown into the mix. And he never invoked whites as examples of superpredators.

Do you think "My Black Crime Problem, and Ours" is not about black people?

[MaggieD]

41. See post #37 above

[jeff47]

46. See post #32 above.

Or you could try to answer the very simple question: Is "My Black Crime Problem, and Ours" not about black people?

[seaotter]

53. Look at #47 , as well.

[asuhornets]

6. Thank You!!!!!

[Vinca]

7. What about the "bring them to heel" remark?

It's something I can imagine coming out of the mouth of a slave owner.

[guillaumeb]

8. Define "dog whistle politics" for me.

We are all well aware that certain terms, like welfare queens, and super predators, and gangs, and terms such as culture of responsibility, and there are many others, are used by racists to avoid certain terms that cannot be used in public.

Reagan popularized the term welfare queens, but William Clinton knew his audience when he talked about welfare.

There is no doubt that these policies were directed against all workers, but the coded racism is still there.

[MaggieD]

14. You make a lot of assumptions

Maybe dog whistles just don't work on my, but I can honestly say I never thought the term gang meant black kids. Never even occurred to me and I remember the debate at the time.

[guillaumeb]

27. Two things:

First, you will notice that I did not accuse HRC. I do not know her, nor do I think that she is consciously racist.

Second, whenever I see media coverage of gangs, the gangs are invariably black or Latino. Perhaps this is just a coincidence. Perhaps not.

How about the term welfare queens, do you remember that one? Reagan also talked about young bucks waiting at home for the welfare check. Perhaps he was talking about First Peoples on the reservations?

Coded language is the politically correct way to show racism.

[morningfog]

11. She called KIDS super predators who need to be brought to heel.

[MaggieD]

16. No, she called GANGS super predators

You guys should know. Sanders supporters have posted the video umpteen times.

[morningfog]

22. You must not have watched it. She called the kids in gangs super predators.

[MaggieD]

49. But not "black kids" right?

So maybe Bernie supporters should stop saying she called "black kids" super predators.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/02/25/hillary-clinton-responds-to-activist-who-demanded-apology-for-superpredator-remarks/

[morningfog]

56. So, you admit what you wrote in post #16 was ignorance or a lie?

[Dragonfli]

26. Oh for Christ's sake watch the you tube, she she said The Kinds of KIDS that are superpredators

She said it quite clearly. No longer gangs of KIDS, kids that are superpredators Why are you telling a falsehood? Never mind, trickle down tactics work, even if trickle down economics don't.

Dogwhistle speak for groups of black kids, scary Black kids.
kids.

[morningfog]

30. It's the MO of this frequent vacationer.

[MaggieD]

51. Correct. Not "black" kids

[Dragonfli]

61. Wrong! The article that brought "super-predators" into dog whistle use

was titled "My Black Crime Problem, and Ours".

A term created by racists for racists!
Here someone even did your Google work for ou which you will only ignore if you are intentionally lying
http://bfy.tw/4SJb

[jeff47]

62. Do you think Reagan was being race-neutral when he used "Welfare Queens"? (nt)

[morningfog]

28. "They are often the kinds of kids called super predators." "First, we have to bring them to heel."

[tonedevil]

33. Here's the quote...

"They're not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called super-predators,"

The kinds of kids called super-predators is calling the kids, not the gangs, super-predators.

[bettyellen]

94. she was explaining that "gangs" were actually involved with drug cartels and using heavy weaponry...

which was a whole different ball of wax than what we used to call "gangs" in earlier decades.

[HooptieWagon]

70. "They are often the kinds of KIDS called super-predators"

Her words.

[whatchamacallit]

19. Yes but obviously "gang member / drug lord kids"

[H2O Man]

17. Respectfully disagree.

I do not think that Hillary Clinton is "racist." Very much the opposite. However, some of the policies -- including the one that is the topic of this discussion -- do have racial overtones in all non-white communities.

The prison industrial complex is massive and powerful. Statistics show that the legal system does indeed treat people differently. And skin color plays a role.

Besides statistics, many here have personal experience with the bad side of the legal system. In 1998, for example, my nephew was viciously assaulted by a group of racist white men. It was one of a series of extremely brutal attacks upon non-white residents in a four-county region. The gang leader who left my teen-aged nephew for dead -- because he was getting good press as a scholar-athlete in high school -- admitted punching and kicking my nephew more than a dozen times, as the young man lay unconscious, with his hands in his pockets. The thug got a $50 fine for having an open beer at the time. That's it. Had it been a gang of non-white men, viciously attacking white teens, I know the consequences would have been different.

[jeff47]

38. One of the articles that brought "superpredators" into our lexicon

was titled "My Black Crime Problem, and Ours".

That's one damn obvious "overtone".

[H2O Man]

45. Right.

I'm pretty familiar with the mind-set involved in the "super predator" issue, as I was employed as a forensic psychiatric social worker at the time. And, exactly as you have said -- and documented -- this was an issue that definitely involved "race." This is not to imply that zero white youth were viewed as potential super predators. But they were not the target.

[phleshdef]

18. Lets put aside the fact that most gang membership consists of minorities...

The notion of talking about ANY children with such broad, very ugly generalizations is not a good thing.

[EdwardBernays]

23. A much better question

Is can an Hillary supporter tell the truth?

Superpredators was NOT about gangs

Had this Brooklyn killing taken place 20 years ago, odds are that some people would have seized on it as more evidence that America was being overwhelmed by waves of “superpredators,” feral youths devoid of impulse control or remorse.

Their numbers were predicted as ready to explode cataclysmically. Social scientists like James A. Fox, a criminologist, warned of “a blood bath of violence” that could soon wash over the land. That fear, verging on panic, is the subject of this week’s segment of Retro Report, a series of video documentaries that examine major news stories from years ago and explore what has happened since.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/07/us/politics/killing-on-bus-recalls-superpredator-threat-of-90s.html?referer=


Here's the entire history of the term:

http://www.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-binaries/27206_1.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwihkuXh7pPLAhVDnw4KHR-hAicQFgguMAQ&usg=AFQjCNH_InmrkVu0-u0_747StO3DGlY-LA&sig2=vAqXOpQ9tzxI6u5dcnVxxg

If that link doesn't work just Google the term and look for the Sage pdf.

Or go here and read what the person that coined the term meant. It's not about gangs.

http://www.brookings.edu/research/testimony/1996/02/28crime-diiulio

Pretending it is might make you look cool in front of other Clintonites but it's a slap in the face to every kid that got screwed by the disasterous judicial system created in the 90s.

[BillZBubb]

34. The Clinton groupies' spin, spin, spin.

They see no evil, hear no evil, or admit no evil for the inevitable one.

Everyone new super-predator was directly referring to individuals--black youth primarily. Now the Clintonites want to revise history and claim up was down.

[EdwardBernays]

44. Considering

That the term was generated by a stone cold racist it's so amazing that they're defending it.

[Avalux]

25. It's offensive you are trying to cover for Hillary. Here's what she said:

"They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids who are called super predators".

Hillary did not say that gangs are super predators. She said kids are super predators. Your inability to see what's in front of your face is concerning.

No to mention that "super predator" was a right wing term, and a complete myth:

http://www.eji.org/node/893

[Matariki]

31. When is a dog whistle NOT a dog whistle MaggieD

I'd lol except it's not funny

[morningfog]

36. When its a bullhorn! Any honest listener recognizes this is a racist statement.

[BillZBubb]

39. Wake up Maggie, I've got something to say to you...

You are either being willfully ignorant or dishonest. I can't tell which.

Clinton specifically mentioned super-predators as individuals in exactly the manner the term way being thrown around by the right wing at that time.

[morningfog]

42. It's a little of both. And a bit of something else.

[togetherforever]

43. She's not being serious I'm sure

She can't be

[jeff47]

55. Don't be so sure. She considers Google to be a right-wing web site.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=885726

[togetherforever]

40. She was referring to the inner city violence in Black neighborhoods

How is this even a question by you?

You know what she was talking about.

[MaggieD]

58. She was referring to gangs

I know some here have quite the imagination. That is clear.

[togetherforever]

74. When I support a person for a political office I will call them out

I'm not a person who makes excuses for them , you shouldn't be either.

You can support her and still acknowledge on this topic she was wrong in what she said.

I'm making no secret as a new member I'm a Bernie supporter but when it comes
to the firearms issue I didn't agree with his stance .

He should have been tougher on gun laws in my personal opinion .

[Stuckinthebush]

48. Because it's the meme of the day

And they are losing the black vote, the Hispanic vote, the female vote, and most of the states.

It'll be something else tomorrow.

[BlueMTexpat]

96. +1! eom

[rhett o rick]

50. It appears to all hinge on what the definition of "is" is. nm

[jillan]

52. Don't you mean to ask Hillary to clear this up? It was her that was asked this question, not us.

[seaotter]

57. Her silence is deafening.

[jillan]

65. 190k tweets. She may be silent but the people are not. She made her bed.

Now she has to lay in it.

[still_one]

54. I wouldn't use the word unintended, I personally think it was intentional

otherwise why would the same threads keep pooping up with that theme

Pretty sad I say

[monicaangela]

59. Ever heard of Dog Whistle Politics?

I'd read up on it if I were you.

[randys1]

60. "Newsflash: Privileged white person says something stupid about non white people"

[Luminous Animal]

63. Because the term "superpredator" was born of the notion that more than half wouild be black kids.

As crime rates continued to climb in the early 1990s, the calls for stiffer penalties for juvenile offenders reached a fever pitch. Unlike the Wars on Crime and Drugs, however, there was no executive clarion call to arms. The closest thing to a declaration came in the form of a 1995 magazine article. In The Coming of the Super-Predators, former Princeton University political science professor John DiIulio warned of an oncoming tsunami of adolescent super-predators, morally-impoverished youth who had grown up surrounded by deviant, delinquent, and criminal adults in abusive, violence-ridden, fatherless, Godless, and jobless These were kids who have absolutely no respect for human life and no sense of the future . . . . stone-cold One year later, DiIulio projected that by the year 2010 there [would be] approximately 270,000 more juvenile super-predators on the streets than there were in In My Black Crime Problem, and Ours, Professor DiIulio predicted that the black crime rate, both black-on-black and black-on-white, is increasing, so that as many as half of these juvenile super-predators could be young black

http://racism.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1491:cognitivewar&catid=139&Itemid=155&showall=&limitstart=3

[HooptieWagon]

67. "They are often the kinds of kids called super-predators"

Her own words.

[MaggieD]

69. Yes, gangs

Not "black kids." So of course you will want to immediately stop claiming she said something she did not say, regardless of what your imagination wants to believe. Right?

[HooptieWagon]

72. She didn't say gangs, she said KIDS.

It's a pretty easy quote to google.

[bettyellen]

95. she was explaining gangs had younger and more violent members- because the drug trade took them

over and they were flooded with weapons. In NYC and Miami it was more Hispanic than anything. The major change was a lot of innocent people getting hit in the crossfire, and insisting the PDs stop ignoring it.

[Arazi]

68. Only 10 percent of gang members are white

http://youth.gov/youth-topics/preventing-gang-involvement/federal-data

And in the context of that era, HRC definitely was referring to POC

[MaggieD]

75. Here's some data from the 90's you seemed to have missed

[Arazi]

86. Uhm, ok. Doesnt change my point

[NurseJackie]

73. We're witnessing a last-minute "Hail Mary" effort to damage Hillary.

It's pretty bad. The campaign is in its final throes, and even the most hardcore Bernie supporters know it.

[MaggieD]

77. Appears so

But this takes the cake, IMO. If such stuff was being flung at Bernie those posts would be hidden in a heartbeat.

[morningfog]

81. Aw, your candidate is being haunted by her racist comments.

Part of the vetting process.

[NurseJackie]

85. You're correct about that! A good system for peer-reviewed civility has a big flaw ...

... that can be easily abused which turns a useful tool into a weapon. Skinner acknowledges this and has indicated that changes will be made after this election season is over... but until then we'll just have to be patient.

[seaotter]

78. She is the one who put the "ball into play" She best gain control of it, or lose possession.

[jeff47]

79. When Reagan talked about "Welfare Queens", was that race neutral?

He never explicitly said black, so the term can't possibly have racial overtones, right?

Or perhaps DiIulio wasn't talking about blacks when he wrote "My Black Crime Problem, and Ours" as part of his popularizing of the term superpredator.

[MaggieD]

88. Here's my final statement on this to all Bernie supporters

If you had anything real to smear her with you wouldn't have to make up this kind of stuff.

Also, this site used to be a great site to support Democrats. Not smear them worse than the GOP does. It's just sad what has been done to it. And to be frank, I think a lot of loyal Democrats see Bernie doing the same thing to our party.

And that, my friends, is why he isn't going to win.

[Turn CO Blue]

89. My research today on the term Super-predator and the two people who coined the term

is resulting in a swath of criminal theory books authored around the 1988-1996 time period.

All those books seem to center around a theory called "Moral Poverty Theory" - which blames rise in violent crime on lack of morality and failure of moral authority institutions and parents, and the resulting lack of empathy found in the urban poor.

If you do Google searches on the many books about crime released at the time, the most cited seems to be this one authored by proponents of War on Crime and War on Drugs such as the Bush the Elder's Drug Czar, William Bennett)
Body Count: Moral Poverty-- and how to Win America's War Against Crime and Drugs (Simon and Schuster).

The other author is oft-cited criminologist John Dilulio. There was a swath of books about crime, violent crime and gants at the time by other criminologists and black pastors, so we do see (in a Google search) certain phrases keep popping up over and over:

- black juveniles
- authority of the Black Church
- flight of the black middle class
- black crime


I did a search for the words: black + Moral Poverty Theory - results About 61,500,000 results (0.77 seconds)

So do some searches for yourselves --

Moral Poverty Theory + keywords

Here are some hits from a search for words: black crime + Moral Poverty Theory
In the citations from the ends of these books, it's VERY CLEAR that BLACK CRIME comes up over and over and over in studies and authored works. Not Asian crime, not Italian crime - BLACK crime.

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,962994,00.html
Today's Native Sons
Inner-city black males are America's newest lost generation Time Magazine Dec. 01, 1986

books.google.com/books?id=2BElWagChwsC&pg=PA333&dq=black+crime+body+count+Moral+Poverty...and+How+to+Win+America%27s+War+Against+Crime+and+Drugs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiz_qbd8pPLAhUC42MKHX3oDTwQ6AEIMTAC#v=onepage&q=black%20crime%20body%20count%20Moral%20Poverty...and%20How%20to%20Win%20America's%20War%20Against%20Crime%20and%20Drugs&f=false

books.google.com/books?id=dcqrOnzMK7gC&pg=PA109&dq=black+crime+body+count+Moral+Poverty...and+How+to+Win+America%27s+War+Against+Crime+and+Drugs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiz_qbd8pPLAhUC42MKHX3oDTwQ6AEINzAD#v=onepage&q=black%20crime%20body%20count%20Moral%20Poverty...and%20How%20to%20Win%20America's%20War%20Against%20Crime%20and%20Drugs&f=false


//books.google.com/books?id=w_c08b1ww_kC&pg=PA310&dq=black+crime+body+count+Moral+Poverty...and+How+to+Win+America%27s+War+Against+Crime+and+Drugs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiz_qbd8pPLAhUC42MKHX3oDTwQ6AEIUTAH#v=onepage&q=black%20crime%20body%20count%20Moral%20Poverty...and%20How%20to%20Win%20America's%20War%20Against%20Crime%20and%20Drugs&f=false


Hillary used the term "super-predator" because it was THE buzzword about crime theory of the day in 1996.

She was no doubt acquainted with the road show put on by the likes of War on Crime proponents such as William Bennet and John Dilulio and others of the time, as they were testifying and making the rounds constantly in a big push, plus they had books, interviews, testimonies.

This was THE TREND in DC at the time.

I just don't see how you separate the implication of "black crime" from "super-predator" if you were almost citing passages word-for-word from the work of William Bennett and John Dilulio (remember Dilulio coined the term super-predator) and if you were obviously aware of the big trending authors at the time, but this has only been a cursory examination on my part, so as always, I'm open to edification and more research from others more enlightened.

Sincerely,
TCB

[dr60omg]

93. It is a lot different than what you are saying

I know that elections often use spin etc ... But, there is a reality to all of this
The expression super-predator precipitated a whole host of draconian policies aimed at black and brown children. Even absurd things like not allowing particular colors in elementary school classrooms (in LA County).

If you forgot or were not paying attention this is what happened at the time or were not even born yet it was a painful period of overly determined genetics to schools being turned into police states with kids having to be searched coming to school (the more the police militarized). It was the time when the privatizers aka school reformers began to demonize schools that had been underfunded for a long time (see the whole body of Jonathan Kozo's work). That way they could finish off the horrible neoliberal reforms that had begun in the 1980's and have continued until now unabated.

What was so awful to watch and hear was the absurdity of the arugment which included overly determined genomics arguments (reducing things to genetic issues) and the way young people (particularly urban which is not coded language for black and brown)

http://youthrights.org/research/library/scapegoating-of-youth/ (go down and put a search on Clinton). It became so absurd that killer bees became a stand-in for black and brown youth and the metaphor was not disguised. It was out in the open.
You can also use this pdf from the Aspen Institute http://www.aspeninstitute.org/sites/default/files/content/docs/pubs/Race-Crime-Punishment.pdf (This contains a chapter from Michelle Alexander) This is from Duke university there is a cached version so you could search out the quotes https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BbixoEGPnu8J:https://wiki.duke.edu/download/attachments/89916698/NOTE%2520AND%2520COMMENT_%2520YOUTH%2520MATTERS_%2520THE%2520NEED%2520TO%2520TREAT%2520CHIL.pdf%3Fapi%3Dv2+&cd=31&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Another good source that is available for free online is sociologist Mike Males site http://home.earthlink.net/~mmales/ which links to several of his books attempting to deconstruct this horrifying popularized during the Clinton administration ... That whole history seemed connected to a thrust during the Clinton administration not just in the crime bill but in the way we viewed public education (it helped speed up the who neoliberal educational reforms)

There is so much attached to this including the militarization of the police force ... "Cheese sandwich" posted this video in another forum asking the same sorts of questions on the DU website it originally was posted on the Grio ...

[nadinbrzezinski]

97. Maggie I will preemtively give you the next talking point

Hassie L Buckner ‏@rockingrobin2 50s50 seconds ago
#WhichHillary The one that has #GOP So terrified about SuperTuesday2016 that they created this hashtag 2 smear her cuz they can't stop her

I gotta say that was original The talking point you are currently using, was mostly tested and already beaten to a pulp, But I do urge you to try it out in the wild as it were.

Myself... I will gladly stand aside and watch. Should be entertaining.

[DFab420]

98. Don't get it twisted. The Superpredator theory had EVERYTHING to do with YOUTH

http://www.sagepub.com/sites/default/files/upm-binaries/27206_1.pdf

http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/Superscapegoating/

It literally had NOTHING to do with Cartels or Gangs.

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99. more dishonest desperation

the closer the determining primaries get.