2016 Postmortem
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"I was standing in a hardware store in Texas, west Texas, and the woman I needed to talk to was behind the counter and there was a biggish guy with a gut standing in front of me. I was willing to wait, you know, standing around being a good citizen, when suddenly it swerved to politics. The guy said something about Hillary and her emails and then he sneered at Bernie Sanders. The guy grinned broadly and said, To hell with them Im voting for Trump, and then he looked happy and laughed hard. He made a joke. I intervened at that moment, kind of lost it actually, and Im going back there tomorrow and I hope it doesnt impact on the quality of door I get, which is why I was standing there. I started saying, Trump is a monster and a racist, getting really angry like, How can you even talk about voting for him? I blew my cover and now everyone was a little like hoo-boy. But luckily I saw what happened. I recognized that that guy doesnt know any more than I do about Hillarys emails. Ive heard that they reveal what a nice person she is then I also heard they werent classified when she wrote them and I havent looked hard into what is so wrong with those emails. It sounds stupid. Her emails? But what the guy was implying in a quick swipe was how dare she. How dare she be running her dirty little scam. And Bernie. You know the guys a socialist. Great. Because here in the great state of Texas we do things our way. Thats how a man runs his life. And yet she thinks shes going to run a little number on America with all her secret shit, or the Jew gets to talk about how he is going to change things. That really riles this guy. They are interfering with the whole picture as he understands it and luckily there is a candidate who would be a fuck-you to these types and that is Trump. A guy who says it like it is. Yeah hes kind of a nut with his weird hair but hes out there with it. Guys rich. Hes no fool. And watching this small drama unfold I felt, oh yes this is America and this is exactly how Trump will be elected. Cartoon America. And all I wanted was a door. I keep thinking of that New Yorker cover with the American venerables Lincoln, Washington, et al. watching Donald Trump waving his arms on teevee and it just gave me a 1930s chill. There he is: the ludicrous one. Trump, kind of a fuck-you joke at the end of the world which I happen to believe is where we truly are. Not standing in the hardware store, not writing in bed.......snip...
When asked about Israel Bernie yells shut up, shut up, shut up. Hes not explained yet how a Congress that doesnt like the health care weve got would be open to single-payer. I dont see that Congress raising taxes either for free higher education. Its a wonderful show. I wish it was true. I dont think Bernie will make Hillary a better candidate as someone has suggested on Facebook. We will make her a better candidate. I want to stop living in this ass-backward world where her time in office or times next to Bills always resemble a hate crime unlike the terms of Jack Kennedy, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, George Bushes, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Harry Truman, Franklin Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt
virtually all of whom except Jimmy Carter waged war and killed enormous numbers of people.
I think of Congress, most of whom voted just like Hillary in support of the Iraq war. Barack Obama didnt vote to bomb Iraq in 2003 and that difference between him and her was a big piece of what got him elected. Then he came into office and conditions became different and then it did make sense to expand the war in Afghanistan. We know that Bernie Sanders also didnt vote to bomb Iraq. It was a righteous call and I admire both of them for it. Yet when the U.S. Senate passed a resolution unanimously reaffirming its support for Israel, which was at the time bombing the shit out of Palestine, Sanders didnt object. He didnt co-sponsor the resolution and thats as anti-war as he got. Apparently its OK to send munitions and planes and billions of dollars of support to some countries according to the candidate whos going to change the nature of government in our time though neither he nor any other U.S. congressman ever would put sanctions on Israel for war crimes and this includes the Elizabeth Warren, the transformational female that everyone does want Elizabeth, you support Israel too? It seems that everyone in Congress is complicit in the eternal infernal workings of the U.S. government. Everyone, even Sanders, is just a politician meaning finally about the daily business of staying in office."
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PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)against the Iraq War.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)in the House and Senate are added more Democrats voted against than for the war.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)anything. What would be the point?
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)the way most Republicans voted.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Let's be honest about the math involved.