New York Times: Mrs. Clinton, Show Voters Those Transcripts

[NWCorona]

"Everybody does it,” is an excuse expected from a mischievous child, not a presidential candidate. But that is Hillary Clinton’s latest defense for making closed-door, richly-paid speeches to big banks, which many middle-class Americans still blame for their economic pain, and then refusing to release the transcripts."

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/opinion/mrs-clinton-show-voters-those-transcripts.html?_r=0&referer=http://www.drudgereport.com/

[leftofcool]

1. Drudge? LMAO

[NWCorona]

3. Actually bing news feed

[jeff47]

9. You can drop the ? and everything after it from the URL, and it will still work. (nt)

[reformist2]

13. Umm, Drudge just linked it, he didn't make it up.

[alcibiades_mystery]

61. "referer: Drudge Report..." I get my NY Times from the NY Times, not from Drudge

Guess the OP has other habits.



Ooopsie-daisy.

[DebbieCDC]

2. Maybe the Times wants to re-think that endorsement

[JimDandy]

52. Doubtful. They want them released and vetted so they can be assured that the time and money

they want to, and are willing to, spend on Clinton won't go to waste.

[DURHAM D]

4. This request would never be made of ANY male candidate.

obvious is obvious

[NWCorona]

5. Didn't Hillary just ask that?

[DURHAM D]

8. Nope. She called out the double standard.

Do you get it now?

[NWCorona]

18. I get that there's something Hillary doesn't want to come out.

[DURHAM D]

20. Sure... like Benghazi.

[leftofcool]

36. Not likely and you might brush up on contract law.

[NWCorona]

60. What does that have to do with anything?

[CorporatistNation]

58. Yep There Is Some THERE... THERE! Anyone With A Sentient Mind... Understands This!

[jeff47]

6. So....did the NYT think Romney was female when they pushed for his tax returns? (nt)

[senz]

17. !! They must have forgotten Romney was a MAN!!

[DURHAM D]

19. Tax returns are usually release by the candidates. PERIOD

[jeff47]

59. So are speeches. (nt)

[magical thyme]

7. Bernie's already released one.

an offered to dig up any he can find.

Where's her leadership? What's she trying to hide?

[DURHAM D]

10. You missed the point.

[magical thyme]

12. Bernie's already released one and offered more. Where Is Her Leadership?

you missed my point.

[DURHAM D]

14. Bernie has only one speech to release given

that he has been making the same speech for 50 years and this issue has nothing to do with leadership. It is about sexism.

[magical thyme]

21. it's about the people she expects to vote for her wanting to know what promises she made to Wall St

BFFs.

That's not sexism. That's lack of trust in her "trust me, wink, wink, wink."

If she has nothing to hide, then release the transcripts.

And frankly, I'm sick of her whining "sexism" as an answer to every question she doesn't want to answer.

[DURHAM D]

22. Hillary hasn't said anything about this being sexist.

I did.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

33. Quick answer. You are wrong.

I'd go further, but unlike too many Hillarious supporters, will be polite.

[rock]

43. No, he/she is NOT.

It really is quite plain that most of the hate directed toward Hillary is misogynistic in nature.

[libdem4life]

45. Here comes the Victim Card. It's a bit tattered from being overplayed.

[rock]

53. I see it

You played it very deftly.

[libdem4life]

54. I don't play and I'm not deft. I read, think about it, then write. Pretty straight forward.

[hifiguy]

39. I have been looking for that graphic for several months.

Thanks for posting it.

[Madam Mossfern]

23. Damn! It's NOT about sexism.

You're only making women seem week.
Stop that.

[DURHAM D]

24. It has everything to do with it.

They are just pissed that she, a female, made that much money and they can't deal.

[Madam Mossfern]

27. What you say is just excuse making.

Hillary is a person with poor judgement. When she was originally asked whether she would release the transcripts, she could have just said "no" and given a plausible reason. After all she wants to be POTUS so she should be able to think on her feet. Or, conversely, she could have just released the transcripts. But "I'll look into it" is a very weak response. That she has not yet addressed this makes her appear weaker and weaker every passing day. As a matter of fact, I believe she's past the point of no return and it is NOT because she is a woman.

I expect every candidate to be totally open and honest, no matter what their gender.

[cui bono]

29. That is so pathetic. Please stop. You are making a mockery of feminism. n/t

[senz]

34. No. This is about Wall St. vs. the 99%.

Hillary wants the poor and middle class to vote for her despite her strong, secretive relationship with the very entity that destroyed our economy and hurt millions of Americans in 2008-2012.

We, the people, have a right to know about Hillary's unusual relationship with Wall Street. If she keeps it secret, it looks to us like there's something she doesn't want us to know.

We are the voters. She is asking us to be her employers. We have a right to know more about her.

The trust of millions of Americans matters a thousand times more than Hillary's "gender."

I am a woman (whoopty-doo) who cares very much about the tremendous harm done by the very rich to the people of this country.

[libdem4life]

46. Sexist and jealousy...quite a combo you've got there.

Nobody claimed that about Fiorino's money ... she's likely made way more. Oh, that's right. She actually worked for her millions. Don't know of anyone jealous of her.

I don't like her, but the comparison is apt. She's the only other woman in the race.

[Wilms]

15. Yeah. That was another headline today.

New York Times Hates Women Candidates

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/opinion/new-york-times-h8s-women-candidates.html

Blatant!

[Qutzupalotl]

55. That link doesn't work.

Would you please summarize? Thanks in advance!

[cui bono]

25. When all else fails, try playing the gender card, even though that is an obvious fail.

.

[hifiguy]

30. Nope. Nobody wanted Rmoney to disclose his 47% remarks.

Nobody. Never, not even on DU.

Jebus Haploid Christ in combat boots, this is getting old.

[libdem4life]

37. Can you name a male candidate who has made $11 million in speeches just because he is thinking

of running for President. Especially one who is known as a shoe-in for nomination. Please, enlighten us.

[DURHAM D]

40. She made the money because of

her entire life's work. I can't think of anyone else who it as interesting as she is PERIOD so everyone wants to meet her and hear what she has to say.

Naturally some people are just jealous of her abilities and how much money she has made.

Obvious is obvious.

[libdem4life]

44. Ah yes, jealous. I care less about the How Much but I do care as to the What For.

She's about as interesting as watching a weed grow.

So I guess no male comes to mind, right? No one nearly as interesting?

I didn't even mention the Foundation's millions...but not to worry. The Republicans have that one ready to go. Just a matter of time.

[Bjornsdotter]

42. How is this request sexist?

I'm having a problem connecting a request for disclosure with sexism. I don't see it.

[grossproffit]

48. The "Mrs." is derogatory. It would be equivalent to referring to Sanders as Mr. Jane Sanders.

[Bjornsdotter]

56. They refer to her as Mrs Clinton

....not Mrs Bill Clinton. It is an accepted title when you are married. To compare equally they would then refer to Bernie as Mr Sanders...again an accepted title.


Edit to add:

In this editorial they do just that....refer to them as Mrs Clinton and Mr Sanders.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/17/opinion/hillary-clinton-should-just-say-yes-to-a-15-minimum-wage.html?_r=0

[kristopher]

50. That is a crazy claim. Hillary took $21,000,000 in speaking fees after activating her super pac.

That is on her as a candidate and has nothing to do with gender. It was an incredibly arrogant and stupid thing to do; and I don't give a flying f%#k what the transcripts say.

(CNN)Hillary Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, combined to earn more than $153 million in paid speeches from 2001 until Hillary Clinton launched her presidential campaign last spring, a CNN analysis shows.

In total, the two gave 729 speeches from February 2001 until May, receiving an average payday of $210,795 for each address. The two also reported at least $7.7 million for at least 39 speeches to big banks, including Goldman Sachs and UBS, with Hillary Clinton, the Democratic 2016 front-runner, collecting at least $1.8 million for at least eight speeches to big banks...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bill-clinton-paid-speeches/

Total Bill and Hillary Clinton speech income, Feb. 2001 thru May 2015:
TOTAL: AVERAGE: SPEECHES:
$153,669,691.00 $210,795.19 729
Total Bill Clinton speech income, Feb. 2001 thru May 2015:
TOTAL: AVERAGE: SPEECHES:
$132,021,691.00 $207,255.40 637
Total Hillary Clinton speech income, April 2013 thru March 2015:
TOTAL: AVERAGE: SPEECHES:
$21,648,000.00 $235,304.35 92

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/politics/hillary-clinton-bill-clinton-paid-speeches/

Half of Hillary Clinton’s Speaking Fees Came From Groups Also Lobbying Congress
Philip Elliott

Almost half of the money from Hillary Clinton’s speaking engagements came from corporations and advocacy groups that were lobbying Congress at the same time.

The Democratic presidential candidate earned $10.2 million in 2014, her first full calendar year after leaving the State Department. Of that, $4.6 million came from groups that also spent on lobbying Congress that year, according to data compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.

In all, the corporations and trade groups that Clinton spoke to in 2014 spent $72.5 million lobbying Congress that same year.

Asked Tuesday if there were conflicts of interest in speaking to these groups, Clinton was curt with reporters in Cedar Falls, Iowa. “No,” she said...

http://time.com/3889577/hillary-clinton-paid-speeches-lobbyists-influence/

[Matariki]

51. That is the most pathetic thing I've read today

Any Democratic candidate getting ENORMOUS speaking fees from the people who broke the economy would be asked about those speeches.

Trying to paint it as sexism!? You're right 'obvious is obvious'

This kind of crap undermines women's ability to address REAL sexism.

[NurseJackie]

11. Well! I do declare ... I detect a hint of desperation.

I avoid it always... desperation causes wrinkles and gray hair you know!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

31. True. Her inevitably has taken a huge hit.

I can fully grok why she is becoming ever more desperate. Bringing out Billary, Chelsea. Who is next? Sydney? Mark Penn? Henry K?

[leftofcool]

35. I guess you missed the latest polls?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

49. And your point is?

(Insert slow shake of head)

[senz]

16. NYTimes has been a Hill booster forever. This is a surprise.

Very obvious point they make:

Her conditioning her releases on what the Republicans might or might not do is mystifying. Republicans make no bones about their commitment to Wall Street deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. Mrs. Clinton is laboring to convince struggling Americans that she will rein in big banks, despite taking their money.

[cui bono]

26. Yep. Clearly she thinks voters are stupid.

[BillZBubb]

28. Looking at the polls, that's not a bad bet.

[hifiguy]

32. Who'd believe a single word of them at this point?

They will have been doctored beyond recognition. Remember this?



Oh, (expletive deleted)!!

[senz]

38. I agree.

[Babel_17]

41. My reply in the comments section

Thank you. That was a powerful editorial, and one that needed to be said. This is a very specific issue that's at hand, and it would be understandable if The Editorial Board hesitated longer before interjecting themselves into it.
But the timing to do so has been right for a while in my opinion. Secretary Clinton has doubled down, repeatedly, when pointedly questioned about her stance by some of the most respected names in the media.
It was time for some of "the referees" to make a ruling.
I salute your decision. Salute!

[grossproffit]

47. "Mrs." Clinton? More sexist bullshit.

She's Madame Secretary or Hillary Clinton.

[ram2008]

57. Jesus christ, there's nothing sexist at all about this request

Stop making such claims it looks silly and disingenuous.

I believe the title was a play on "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" --> "Mrs. Clinton, show us those transcripts"