2016 Postmortem
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(38,613 posts)"Can I talk? And maybe you can listen to what I say."
"Now let's get back to the issues that I think are important"
Everything her supporters said NOT to do in response to a BLM protest, she did. And she's praised for it.
Seriously, she could announce that she's always been a far-right conservative and she'd still keep 90% of her support.
Why?
Because her support doesn't come from actual policy positions.
I have no idea where her support does come from.
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valerief
(53,235 posts)theaocp
(4,237 posts)fear of republicans. The talking points always come back to keeping them AWAY from power, rather than what Clinton can do in the office. Fear is a powerful motivation.
ms liberty
(8,579 posts)not the only factor, but a major factor definitely. Fear in many forms, as it is quite the useful tool as well.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)delrem
(9,688 posts)They like expanded powers for the NSA.
They like deregulation of investment banking.
They do!
Every one of them back her on her promotion of war. In Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and all the nods and winks toward Iran -- and onward!
Every one of them. Else they wouldn't back her. Not in 2016, after the history of it.
Every one of them are on side with her total commitment to Goldman Sachs, Citibank, and the most unregulated war profiteering and privateering capitalism as is possible. Made in the USA. Plunder is the name of their game. It isn't a "free market" to them, it's government contracts for rebuilding after bombings. It's government sanctioned and enabled selling of cluster bombs, and the entire US arsenal to the favored despots.
To that end they're totally invested in the NSA being in control of our speech via total capture of it, for their own purposes.
That isn't "fear". That's the apex of predation.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)the nsa main purpose is probably to keep the for profit prisons full
parallel construction and all
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Do they not understand her positions and are they not aware of her actions and behaviors?
Or do they know and they just don't care?
Truly mind boggling.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Bernie never trying to prove something... Certainly never considering himself inevitable or somehow superior to those that he truly hopes to serve... On the other hand... Hillary....
ybbor
(1,554 posts)He considers himself simply as the spokesperson for "us". Which is what is so amazing about him.
When he speaks it is "we" need to do this, it's not how he will get it done, but how we will get it done. It starts from the bottom and moves upward. He speaks how every major societal change began at the bottom with common folk leading the way.
He is willing to lead us, if we only give him the chance.
We vs. me. I vs. us.
You decide.
Go Bernie Go!
TheBlackAdder
(28,205 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)They set the terms of engagement, and Hillary was set up to go second in the attempt to show her as the better candidate for AAs. I'm sure it was intended to be a knockout punch ling before Iowa.
She fumbled it. Twice. Now a third time. She can't help it though- she really doesn't care about all of this, or the people involved. All she's radiating is "Yeah, yeah, yeah...get we skip over this to when I'm in the office and don't have to deal with you "people"?
The rest of Team Hill has to be ripping their hair out in frustration. They set everything up for her just to have to do damage control everywhere.
cui bono
(19,926 posts).
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)One is kind, one is not.
Thanks for posting!
H2O Man
(73,558 posts)Thank you.
Recommended.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)She was angry and impatient and disgusted. A total lack of empathy.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)People criticized Bernie for his response, when I thought he handled it pretty well. Didn't make sense to me.
TheBlackAdder
(28,205 posts).
As a man who lived in the 60s, he experienced the protests, the need for people to take the stage and mic!
For him, he just let the people say what they have to say because he lived for civil rights!
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nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)mariawr
(348 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)it was already trending. Now it is OH MY FUCKING GOD, cannot keep with it
dchill
(38,502 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)stupidicus
(2,570 posts)and she is a horn-of-plenty in providing reasons why
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)Nyan
(1,192 posts)Who is more likely to listen to the needs of Black community? Who is actually going to respect their views? It's such a no-brainer...
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)dragonfly301
(399 posts)This has to be the most tone deaf thing she could have said.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)might have influence to do something about it.
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)Thanks for the thread, magical thyme.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)This is really making me have second thoughts about BLM... but that is just me.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)And she has now botched it 3 times. Team Hill made a big deal about how important BLM was until their candidate couldn't show that she actually cares about their issue.
Please feel free to dismiss the people and issues Hillary's campaign tried to use to get her elected. It perfectly highlights the moral bankruptcy going on here.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)thereismore
(13,326 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)mariawr
(348 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)FangedNoumenom
(145 posts)White Americans need to do a better job of listening when African Americans talk about the seen and unseen barriers they face every day. HRC, speaking in Harlem 8 days before the Ashley Williams encounter
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)as best I can, anyway. The photo with "she crossed her arms" does not show her crossing her arms.
Meme creator should either get the photo where she was or change the text.