Who Hillary was quoting in 1996 - this is important.

[EdwardBernays]

When Hillary was talking about superpredators, she was quoting John J. DiIulio, Jr..

He was invited to the Clinton White House to help them come up with a solution to youth crime in 1995.

That happened because he came up with a popular (in the media) theory that a large chunk of "inner city" youth were basically becoming "monsters". Particularly the black youth.

&quot DiIulio) is impatient with those who believe that treating black criminals harshly is somehow inimical to the interests of blacks in general."

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-05-08/news/1995128167_1_black-crime-diiulio-silent-majority

This idea was promoted by DiIulio in dozens of articles in national papers and most noteably in the book Body Count

That book starts with the premise that the Reagan-Bush drug war "the most successful attack on a serious social problem in the last quarter-century," and goes downhill fast, predicting that a new strain of monster children were preying on society, and a large group of them were about to be unleashed... so we better start locking up juveniles - and FAST!

Criminals, especially the pathological variety our family-less culture has been producing in the last generation or so, cannot be rehabilitated, reformed or saved, Mr. DiIulio believes. They are the bitter fruit of loveless, abusive unions of unsocialized people. Having received nothing, they are without human compassion. They kill and rape without mercy or remorse. They can only be incapacitated by prison.

..first, he would reform the criminal justice system so that predatory criminals, adult and juvenile, would stay in jail for a very long time.

This wasn't about gangs either... in fact he repeatedly said that superpredators looked up to gangs, or tried to emulate drug dealers... they weren't either.. they were just inhuman monsters.

From the NYTs:

"Then a professor at Princeton, married and the father of three young children, Mr. DiIulio became a prominent voice in the world of criminology with his superpredator theory. But although a respected academic, he was suddenly questioned by peers, who said he seemed to be providing cover for what they considered partisan politics.

''He became a sensationalist, a simplistic analyst who rather toadied to that point of view,'' said Norval Morris, professor of law at the University of Chicago and co-editor of the Oxford History of the Prison. ''He should have known better than that.''

It was shortly afterward, Mr. DiIulio said, while praying at Mass on Palm Sunday in 1996, that he had an ''epiphany -- a conversion of heart, a conversion of mind,'' that changed him from a complacent Roman Catholic to one who ''took his religion seriously.''

He was sitting in a church in New Jersey that day, ''and it just became crystal clear to me,'' the 42-year-old Mr. DiIulio said in the interview at Penn, where he is a professor of government policy. ''God had given me a Rolodex, good will and a passion that was sometimes misdirected, and I knew that for the rest of my life I would work on prevention, on helping bring caring, responsible adults to wrap their arms around these kids.''

It's well that he had this conversion, because his peers smelled a rat, a big stupid rat:

Soon, what had been his chief theory was discredited: instead of rising, the rate of juvenile crime dropped by more than half.

''His prediction wasn't just wrong, it was exactly the opposite,'' said Franklin E. Zimring, professor of law at the University of California at Berkeley and director of the university's Earl Warren Legal Institute. ''His theories on superpredators were utter madness.''

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/09/us/as-ex-theorist-on-young-superpredators-bush-aide-has-regrets.html

DiIulio was invited to the White House at the height of his fame, so to speak, in 1995. Bill and Hillary had a three and a half hour meeting with him and others about youth crime ("President Clinton took copious notes and asked lots of questions, but nothing was accomplished.&quot

He also repeatedly made the suggestion that nothing could be done - aside from locking up the monsters ("No one in academia is a bigger fan of incarceration than I am.&quot - except encouraging them all to find god. No seriously. That was his only suggestion. Lock up the kids or help them find god so they can claim back a bit of their lost humanity.

Well, ok - that's not QUITE true:

Finally, Mr. DiIulio proves better than anyone in the public debate on crime that there is no inconsistency between being tough on criminals and looking at root causes. Many conservatives are dismissive of root-causes talk because they think it amounts to justification for criminality.

It needn't, and in Mr. DiIulio's hands, it doesn't. The plain fact is that of the most vicious criminals we produce, nearly all come from the same kind of environments: no father, an incompetent, abusive and frequently drug-addicted mother, and a chaotic, violent neighborhood. If the existing child welfare laws were merely enforced properly, the children who are being abused and neglected at ages 2, 3 or 4 could be removed from their "homes" and either placed for adoption or put in group homes. By that step, we would prevent an ongoing crime (the abuse of that child) as well as thwart the creation of one more rapacious criminal.

That article was published BEFORE he was invited to the White House, as were numerous other article just like it. That's the man Bill invited to help him solve youth crime and that's the man Hillary quoted months later. Chillingly, in the weeks before Hillary now infamously uttered the word superpredator, DiIulio wrote, "By my estimate, we will probably need to incarcerate at least 150,000 juvenile criminals in the years just ahead".

And Bill did just that.

More links:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-12-15/news/9512150046_1_crime-talking-bomb/5
http://www.amazon.com/Body-Count-William-J-Bennett/dp/0614198879
http://www.brookings.edu/research/testimony/1996/02/28crime-diiulio

[libtodeath]

1. Thank you!

It sickens me to see the obvious dog whistles defended here.

[seaotter]

2. She came up with the term all on her own. Anything else is just coincidence.

[tk2kewl]

4. She didn't really come up with it as much as she didn't carefully choose the right words

[seaotter]

5. I think she thought hard and her selection was deliberate .

She knew the "code" and it fit what she wanted to convey, and whom she wanted to convey it to.

[EdwardBernays]

7. absolutely right

it was repeating something that was in the media which was aimed at "inner city" "monster" children that needed to be treated harshly by the police and locked up a long time. No saving them.

[tk2kewl]

9. I was referring to her explanation

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511339250

[EdwardBernays]

13. ahhh

[tk2kewl]

14. I wonder how Andy C. would characterize her response?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuckin%27_and_jivin%27

[azmom]

3. Kick

[FreakinDJ]

6. important news

[UglyGreed]

8. Interesting video on the subject

[EdwardBernays]

10. thanks!

I actually meant to include that in the OP!!

[UglyGreed]

11. No problem

I found it was good summary of what can happen when the media and our leaders fall for what I would call propaganda.

[jwirr]

19. Just exactly has the modern police attitude have to do with

this philosophy? Are they teaching this shit in police academies?

[UglyGreed]

21. I think it may be

that plus our nation has become more and more militarized. I had new neighbors move in and two of them are NYPD. One was recently retired and the other is in their early thirties and pretty new to the force. One a man and the younger one was a woman. When I spent an evening with them I'll tell you I was shocked about what they had to say.

[loyalsister]

12. White supremacy codified

in law, SC rulings, and US culture.

We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, to prevent our being swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind.

The eugenics movement targeted blacks as they were intentionally over-represented among the people judged as unfit to reproduce. Once eugenics was discredited they found a back up plan.

The plain fact is that of the most vicious criminals we produce, nearly all come from the same kind of environments: no father, an incompetent, abusive and frequently drug-addicted mother, and a chaotic, violent neighborhood. If the existing child welfare laws were merely enforced properly, the children who are being abused and neglected at ages 2, 3 or 4 could be removed from their "homes" and either placed for adoption or put in group homes. By that step, we would prevent an ongoing crime (the abuse of that child) as well as thwart the creation of one more rapacious criminal.

The rhetoric is the same. The "solutions" are deplorably racist.

[jwirr]

20. War Against the Weak by Edwin Black. That this connects

both Clintons to this theory is absolutely sickening. We think the Trump might be turning us into Nazis but this theory just seems to be a kinder and gentler method.

[loyalsister]

23. The road to hell and unholy alliances

This agenda to enforce white supremacy is so ugly and so persistant. It's as if there are people in think tanks saying, "since slavery is out, how about putting together chain gangs?"
Progressives step in and say, "since they are mistreated in prison and their lives generally suck maybe it would be better if we are compassionate enough to just prevent their existance."

Since that didn't work out it's back to plan A. I am glad to see people calling her out. This is the experience she brags about and it should also serve as a cautionary tale of how people have been exploited by the Clintons- from mass incarceration to firewalls.

[jwirr]

24. Yes, this should scare a lot of people. My own family was

a victim of eugenics - not from a racial stand point - from the issue of mental illness. TPTB were determined to create a super-race long before Hitler ever even thought about it and it started here in this country.

We need to win this election and we need to fight for sanity when ever we can.

[loyalsister]

25. We most definitely do!

Eugenics was funded by the Koch's of the day- Carnegie's and Rockefellers.

We have to pull together and especially support the activists who are challenging white supremacy. They give me hope.

[EdwardBernays]

26. as a side note

did you know that the foundation of planned parenthood was kinda based on eugenics... the founder of it was obsessed with eugenics... as were most scientists at the time...

Even more disturbing though, is that the US government spent YEARS AND YEARS secretly sterilizing tens of thousands of poor and minority women... and that lasted up into the 1970s.

[jwirr]

27. I knew about PP and eugenics but thankfully I THINK they

have changed their goals. They are more interested in helping women now than in creating a master race.

Although I remember in the 60s that many minority groups did not trust them even then. Thought it was all about limiting the birth of POC. And unfortunately to some that is what it was all about.

[EdwardBernays]

30. yeah that's ancient history

I just think it's interesting...

[jwirr]

34. I know. And it was the KKK that was trying to limit families.

[EdwardBernays]

35. yep

it's so hard for people to really realise how recent this was as well... when we put men on the moon interracial marriage was still illegal in 13 states.

[loyalsister]

29. For all of Margaret Sanger's good works

she was definitely flawed. Alexander Graham Bell was a big supporter, as well. They and many other progressives came to the movement in the name of compassion. Preventing people being born into poverty or disability was intended to reduce suffering.

I don't know how aware they were of the motives of the white supremacists they aligned themselves with. But, they are not absolved either way.

[EdwardBernays]

32. yeah

it was official government policy - eugenics - all over the world... messed up stuff... :/

[jwirr]

28. BLM and Occupy have given me hope because they dared to

stand up and be counted. And I am loving every moment of this campaign with Bernie and the young voters. We have finally go our spirit back.

Onward.

[loyalsister]

31. Indeed! I have a new appreciation for Occupy

The young activists are pulling back the curtain and they may save us, yet!

[EdwardBernays]

33. Fingers crossed!! eom

[Uncle Joe]

15. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, EdwardBernays.

[nenagh]

16. K&R

Stunning to read something so dreadful...

Thank you for the OP.

[earthside]

17. White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._DiIulio,_Jr.

John J. DiIulio, Jr.

Previously, he served as the first director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives under President George W. Bush from early 2001 to August 2001. ...

He is also credited with coining, or at least popularizing, the term (and concept of) "superpredators" in reference to juvenile violent crime in the early 1990s.[4] Under this concept DiIulio and co-authors, William J. Bennett and John P. Walters, referred to America's youth as, "radically impulsive, [and] brutally remorseless youngsters..."[5]

This is the big, big problem with Hillary Clinton's candidacy -- the political baggage isn't just the scandals from the Clinton administration, it is her associations, what influenced her, what she advocated back then ... what she claims to believe today.

More and more theme of this graphic is going to be Hillary's undoing:

[Paka]

18. K&R

[delrem]

22. But the Clintons have EVOLVED. Didn't you get the message? sheee.

They are now, no shit, the only answer to all social justice problems.

Just don't ask them about economics. Or war. Economics and war don't count in Dem primary rhetoric.

[bbgrunt]

36. wow! Thanks for the education. K and R!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. Add to that broken windows theory and the full picture comes to focus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory

By the way stop and frisk... is one of it's children

[EdwardBernays]

38. absolutely right

This system is so broken, and Americans are so overwhelmed by propaganda and know so little of their own history... well... these problems are long term and need honesty to be fixed... but we all need to be honest, especially our leaders.

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. Welll I have been not nice and asked my local PD chief about stop and frisk

and my city council. Chief dances, many of our local political readers are truly not knowledgeable on this. I mean they are not dancing, they have no clue.

[EdwardBernays]

40. yeah

I tell ya... I live in Ireland now and people are not EVER scared of the cops... criminals are I guess, but if you're doing nothing wrong you can shout at a cop all day and nothing ever happens.. cops are almost all neighbourhood based and for the most part all policing is very very local... walking and bikes... and importantly no guns.

It's amazing how much stress that removes from day to day life...

I grew up in the south and was harassed by cops, and had them threaten to plant drugs on me if I and me friend resisted an illegal search... scary shit... I also was arrested a few times as a teen - nothing serious, kids stuff - and I always had a gun pointed at me... as a kid... and was thrown to the ground and kneeled on while cuffed... one was for "trespassing".. I stepped over a cinder block wall to take a short cut... that kind of crap... and still guns out... very happy my kids won't know that fear.

[Major Hogwash]

41. Wow, that is sick AND twisted.

I hope she drops out of the race soon and stops embarrassing the Democratic party.

[zentrum]

42. Jeeze—this is

……even more horrifying than I knew.

Thanks for the information.

[californiabernin]

43. Sickening. nt

[BernieforPres2016]

44. Very interesting

Thanks for the post.

[WillyT]

45. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[Duppers]

46. It's telling that anyone would let a person like

DiIulio guide their thinking.

I googled and read a bit more about him and did a few more of these...

[nashville_brook]

47. k and r