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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:21 AM Feb 2016

WaPo: Why black voters remain in Hillary Clinton’s corner


Clinton participates in a Breaking Down Barriers town hall campaign event at Morris College in Sumter, S.C., on Feb. 24
Jonathan Capehart - February 25 at 9:07 PM


There are three reasons Clinton’s firewall of black voters won’t #feelthebern in South Carolina and beyond.

First, Obama. His approval rating among African Americans is 89 percent in the latest Gallup tracking poll. This explains why Clinton has left no daylight between herself and the man who bested her in 2008 and for whom she worked as secretary of state. And it explains why she highlights the many times that Sanders argued for a primary challenge to Obama in 2012.

Second, Clinton doesn’t shy away from race. Sanders talks about race, too, of course. But he seems to do so at a remove, and his attempts to make a convincing link between his economic message and race continue to fall short.

(snip)

The third reason is perhaps the most important, because of how deeply it resonates with African Americans: Clinton openly talks about the necessary role that whites must play in healing and bridging the racial divide.

“Ending systemic racism requires contributions from all of us, especially those of us who haven’t experienced it ourselves,” she said in Harlem. “White Americans need to do a better job of listening when African Americans talk about the seen and unseen barriers that you face every day. We need to recognize our privilege and practice humility, rather than assume that our experiences are everyone’s experiences.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-black-voters-remain-in-hillary-clintons-corner/2016/02/25/7a86100a-da7d-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html
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WaPo: Why black voters remain in Hillary Clinton’s corner (Original Post) ucrdem Feb 2016 OP
Conclusion: ucrdem Feb 2016 #1
9 months vs. 25 years. nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #2
We're really talking about the last 7 years. ucrdem Feb 2016 #3
Tone deaf MaggieD Feb 2016 #7
I love and admire POTUS but he gets no passes from me for some of his nc4bo Feb 2016 #8
Let me guess, chained CPI? ucrdem Feb 2016 #30
Can't imagine that kind of behavior ever coming back workinclasszero Feb 2016 #39
What works in Vermont ucrdem Feb 2016 #40
I know thats right! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #41
Did you see who wrote this? jillan Feb 2016 #9
An asshole, right? No, I sure didn't. Thanks! nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #11
Capehart!! jillan Feb 2016 #12
I totally missed that, thanks. nc4bo Feb 2016 #14
LOL! Great description. jillan Feb 2016 #15
He lost before he started with all his dissing of Dems and Obama MaggieD Feb 2016 #4
Hey thanks for the tip, I'm going to look for it ... ucrdem Feb 2016 #5
Still, it's good that he's trying! And it has helped to some extent... thesquanderer Feb 2016 #50
Are you seriously posting a piece from Jonathan Capehart???? LOL jillan Feb 2016 #6
What makes him a joke, exactly? MaggieD Feb 2016 #10
He is the Breitbart of the Washington Post. Makes crap up and writes about it. jillan Feb 2016 #13
You might not like what he has to say but Breitbart he isn't. ucrdem Feb 2016 #17
Hey if you want to read "journalists" that have written made up stories, that is your prerogative. jillan Feb 2016 #18
It wasn't a made up story and it hasn't been resolved. ucrdem Feb 2016 #23
Oh FFS - he's a liberal MaggieD Feb 2016 #21
He doesn't... MrWendel Feb 2016 #20
And what would a black guy know about AA voters anyway? MaggieD Feb 2016 #24
LOL MrWendel Feb 2016 #25
Yeah imagine that. ucrdem Feb 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Feb 2016 #32
Absence of Character..... CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #57
"Clinton openly talks about the necessary role that whites must play" Yeah, some avoid bettyellen Feb 2016 #16
She talks about gun control too ucrdem Feb 2016 #19
Excellent! NurseJackie Feb 2016 #46
She talks about gun control FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #59
Good one! lunamagica Feb 2016 #60
she had another idea re: the "role that whites must play in healing and bridging the racial divide" thesquanderer Feb 2016 #54
Capeheart is a sycophantic joke. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #22
Also known as a black journalist that doesn't buy into... MaggieD Feb 2016 #26
No he is just a crap jounalist if his recent photo lie is any example. Bread and Circus Feb 2016 #29
Crap journalist - liar. 840high Feb 2016 #45
But hey, at least he's openly admitting he's 100% for Hillary. Barack_America Feb 2016 #28
Yes, he's an OPINION writer MaggieD Feb 2016 #31
He just likes to play a "serious and impartial journalist on TV". Barack_America Feb 2016 #33
On TV they call them pundits MaggieD Feb 2016 #35
He felt the #bern last week ucrdem Feb 2016 #36
Because I've never found him to have anything interesting to say. Barack_America Feb 2016 #37
WaPo: "Jonathan Capehart is a member of the Post editorial board ucrdem Feb 2016 #34
Clinton’s firewall of black voters won’t #feelthebern workinclasszero Feb 2016 #38
I'm feeling the #cHill ucrdem Feb 2016 #42
A smashing victory in SC workinclasszero Feb 2016 #44
A truly viable candidate for the GE would be doing better ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #47
Sometimes newspapers need to fill empty space, when that happens at the WaPo ... Impedimentus Feb 2016 #43
Great Article Gothmog Feb 2016 #48
Jonathan Capehart? he's still writing? kingCowan Feb 2016 #49
She has "left no daylight between herself and" Obama? thesquanderer Feb 2016 #51
Capehart is a liar and he is compromised by the fact his partner is a Hillary operative. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #52
Hillary and her banker friends BostonBob Feb 2016 #53
Biggest reason is they are pretty samart people. William769 Feb 2016 #55
Any doubt Capehart will be Press Secretary if she wins? DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #56
David Brock? TSIAS Feb 2016 #62
I'm a Hillary Clinton Supporter and I approve this message. oasis Feb 2016 #58
An opinion piece by Jonathan 'Say It Today, Research It Tomorrow' Capehart? Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #61

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
1. Conclusion:
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:29 AM
Feb 2016
For months, Sanders and his supporters have said that black voters will grow to like him once they get to know him. But the Democratic caucuses in Nevada last Saturday were a sign that the true base of the Democratic Party isn’t being moved by his message. By getting the substance right, Clinton has set the bar too high with African American voters for Sanders to clear it.


We tried to tell him back in May . . .

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
3. We're really talking about the last 7 years.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:39 AM
Feb 2016

After Barack won the nom he and Hillary decided they were going to work together and they did. Bernie on the other hand decided he was going never going to give Barack a break and he didn't. No appointment satisfied him, no speech was sufficient, no policy was good enough or even good, nothing Obama did earned anything but indifference or in the last couple of years ferocious rebuke. So that's what we're starting with and it appears that's what we're ending with.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
7. Tone deaf
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:44 AM
Feb 2016

A lot of Bernie supporters think AA just starting paying attention to politics recently. I have no clue why they think that, but they do. They think none of them saw Bernie diss Obama and Dems for years. They think they didn't notice Bernie calling for a primary on the first black president.

It's amazing to me that they seem to think only white people pay attention to politics, and that AA voters are somehow not politically sophisticated. Makes me shake my head.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
8. I love and admire POTUS but he gets no passes from me for some of his
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:44 AM
Feb 2016

policies.

Obama himself said we should hold his feet to the fire. Many of us did for whatever (non) effect it had.

No leader should be untouchable as far as criticisms on policy is concerned. No one.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
14. I totally missed that, thanks.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:50 AM
Feb 2016

I just knew it smelled like hog lagoon but paid no attention to the farmer.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
4. He lost before he started with all his dissing of Dems and Obama
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:41 AM
Feb 2016

Plus, he's simply tone deaf about racial issues, as Brave's excellent article at Dkos today points out. IMO.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
50. Still, it's good that he's trying! And it has helped to some extent...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:48 AM
Feb 2016

When members of the AA community learn about him, he is seen favorably by about the same percentage as see Hillary favorably. (See http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511149130 )
Of course that doesn't necessarily yield a vote. Someone who likes both of them can still only vote for one.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
6. Are you seriously posting a piece from Jonathan Capehart???? LOL
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:44 AM
Feb 2016


Newsflash NO ONE give a shit was he has to say! He is a joke.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
13. He is the Breitbart of the Washington Post. Makes crap up and writes about it.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:49 AM
Feb 2016

Yes he is very handsome but he is a joke.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
17. You might not like what he has to say but Breitbart he isn't.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:52 AM
Feb 2016

No conceivable comparison in fact.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
18. Hey if you want to read "journalists" that have written made up stories, that is your prerogative.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:53 AM
Feb 2016

Enjoy

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
20. He doesn't...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:57 AM
Feb 2016

kiss up to Bernie = he's a bad reporter suddenly. I wonder if people always felt that way...

Response to MrWendel (Reply #20)

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
16. "Clinton openly talks about the necessary role that whites must play" Yeah, some avoid
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 01:52 AM
Feb 2016

anything that could be referred to as "identity" politics. For all her faults, Hillary has not.

 

FangedNoumenom

(145 posts)
59. She talks about gun control
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:46 AM
Feb 2016

while collecting money from the largest gun retailer in the country. Interesting.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
26. Also known as a black journalist that doesn't buy into...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:03 AM
Feb 2016

... the "Bernie is the second coming of MLK" meme that his supporters like to float.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
28. But hey, at least he's openly admitting he's 100% for Hillary.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:05 AM
Feb 2016

...I did miss the disclaimer of which SuperPAC paid for the advertisement of his endorsement, however. I thought that was required.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
33. He just likes to play a "serious and impartial journalist on TV".
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:09 AM
Feb 2016

Which may be more of an indictment of cable news, but does not give him bonus marks in journalistic integrity.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
35. On TV they call them pundits
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:13 AM
Feb 2016

Van Jones is not impartial. Thom Hartman is not impartial. Bill Press is not impartial. I could go on and on. Why do you have different standards for this guy? Because he supports Hillary?

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
37. Because I've never found him to have anything interesting to say.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:21 AM
Feb 2016

An opinion writer should research and weigh both sides of an issue and then offer his/her opinion. I've never had the sense Capeheart does that. He could learn from Eugene Robinson, who has earned my respect and then some.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
34. WaPo: "Jonathan Capehart is a member of the Post editorial board
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:10 AM
Feb 2016

and writes about politics and social issues for the PostPartisan blog." And just for the record, this is a regular WaPo opinion piece, not a bolg post, and there is no such disclaimer.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
42. I'm feeling the #cHill
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:33 AM
Feb 2016

I think SuperTuesday is going to close the deal so here's hoping Dem voters make it happen!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
44. A smashing victory in SC
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:38 AM
Feb 2016

Followed by a trail of even more victories in huge states like Texas will open the eyes of many people across the country as to who is a viable candidate and who isn't.

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
43. Sometimes newspapers need to fill empty space, when that happens at the WaPo ...
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 02:36 AM
Feb 2016

they ask Capehart to make something up.
 

kingCowan

(25 posts)
49. Jonathan Capehart? he's still writing?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:46 AM
Feb 2016

Jonathan Capehart? he's still writing? I thought the WaPo fired him for the whole photogate nonsense.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
51. She has "left no daylight between herself and" Obama?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:52 AM
Feb 2016

Yes, she's currently wrapping herself in his legacy, but you don't have to look very hard to find points of departure, either. Like support for a Syrian no-fly zone. Or that (in)famous quote...

"Great nations need organizing principles, and 'Don't do stupid stuff' is not an organizing principle."
 

BostonBob

(18 posts)
53. Hillary and her banker friends
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:00 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary and her financial backers are the payday lenders of American politics. They act like they are trying to help struggling workers but only want to screw them over. It is sad that people continue to trust these con artists.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
56. Any doubt Capehart will be Press Secretary if she wins?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:34 AM
Feb 2016

Seems like the natural choice since he's already on the job.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
61. An opinion piece by Jonathan 'Say It Today, Research It Tomorrow' Capehart?
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 12:54 PM
Feb 2016

The man who lied about Danny Lyon, Bernie, those photos and all of that?

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