2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy Electing Hillary in ’16 Is More Important Than Electing Obama in ’08
I get it. I didnt start off as her biggest fan either. During the 2008 campaign, I wrote plenty of less-than-complimentary words about Hillary Clinton in my role as Barack Obamas speechwriter. Then, a few weeks after the election, I had a well-documented run-in with a piece of cardboard that bore a striking resemblance to the incoming Secretary of State.
It was one of the stupider, more disrespectful mistakes Ive made, and one that could have cost me a job if Hillary hadnt accepted my apology, which she did with grace and humor. As a result, I had the chance to serve in the Obama Administration with someone who was far different than the caricature I had helped perpetuate.
The most famous woman in the world would walk through the White House with no entourage, casually chatting up junior staffers along the way. She was by far the most prepared, impressive person at every Cabinet meeting. She worked harder and logged more miles than anyone in the administration, including the president. And shed spend large amounts of time and energy on things that offered no discernible benefit to her political futuresaving elephants from ivory poachers, listening to the plight of female coffee farmers in Timor-Leste, defending LGBT rights in places like Uganda.
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Most of alland you hear this all the time from people whove worked for herHillary Clinton is uncommonly warm and thoughtful. She surprises with birthday cakes. She calls when a grandparent passes away. She once rearranged her entire campaign schedule so a staffer could attend her daughters preschool graduation. Her husband charms by talking to you; Hillary does it by listening to younot in a head-nodding, politician way; in a real person way.
This same story has repeated itself throughout Clintons career: those who initially view her as distrustful and divisive from afar find her genuine and cooperative in person. It was the case with voters in New York, Republicans in the Senate, Obama people in the White House, and heads of state all over the world. Theres a reason being Americas chief diplomat was the specific job Obama asked Hillary to doshe has the perfect personality for it.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/26/why-electing-hillary-in-16-is-more-important-than-electing-obama-in-08.html
This is a nice piece. Sometimes it's nice to come here and just read something nice. Everything doesn't have to be ripping throats out.
I enjoy reading & posting nice pieces on both our candidates.
I hope someone else enjoys this.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)To vote for a corrupt and dishonest person.
That is true.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)as I said, I just thought it was nice.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)katmondoo
(6,457 posts)No one is willing to even believe one word that doesn't disparage Hillary, not one word of teeny tiny praise. So live with the Trumpers be happy
peace13
(11,076 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)Thanks for posting!
MaggieD
(7,393 posts)Bernie has spent a lifetime dissing Democrats and many years dissing Obama. I have been a Democrat for 38 years - my entire adult life. I am not voting in favor of tearing down my party.
I am more than happy to vote for the candidate that IS a Democrat, and who will continue Obama's legacy. In fact, I can't wait to see her has our next president.
eridani
(51,907 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)For an honest lady. Thanks!
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)bigtree
(85,999 posts)...not Daily Beast.
Not surprised to see a Sanders supporter here unaware of a difference between a rw sponsored article and one by a respected Democrat.
UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)bigtree
(85,999 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)the denial. Classy, just like Hillary did at the NV town hall, Sanders wasn't really a Democrat' before presidential run. she got booed pretty badly there. It's true...it's true
bigtree
(85,999 posts)...like the anti-Hillary brigade here.
Sanders is a fair-weather Democrat. An opportunistic Democrat.
moondust
(19,993 posts)Well played, UG.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)on Hillary written by IAC companies with Chelsea on the Board of Directors. What the heck are Chelsea's qualifications to sit on the Board of a major company other than her last name?
If Hillary becomes President, look for Chelsea to move into politics and inherit the Democratic Party from her parents.
Spazito
(50,387 posts)Interesting perspective from someone who started out with a negative view of Hillary Clinton until actually seeing her behavior and personality in person.
Thanks, it is an good read, imo.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)support Clinton are attacks because the supporters know Clinton. Have worked with or for Clinton. Are in some way connected to Clinton.
Maybe it's because I'm not so young, but I've always seen it as a positive sign that the people who have worked with someone.. know someone, or are connected to someone thinks highly of that person.
The BIG question is how Bernie.. who after decades in the US congress can get 0 senators, and only 4 House members to back him?
Personally, I'd feel pretty darn slighted and embarrassed if I ran for something and all of my co-workers of decades runs to support my opponent almost unanimously.
Spazito
(50,387 posts)A decent OP attacking NO ONE seems to be a problem in GDP.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And this thread is TELLING.
What it says about people who feel a need to pile on and snark about this kind of essay, I don't dare articulate in the current environment.
Spazito
(50,387 posts)Yep, best let the responses speak for themselves as they are very telling for sure.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)Plenty of women and children died in the Iraq war - a war based on lies - Hillary gave her blessing to Bush and trusted he would do the right thing, saying it was "probably the hardest decisions I've ever made". I've said this a thousand times....so many of us knew what was going on, why didn't she? Why did she conflate Saddam Hussein with 9/11 on the floor of the Senate that day?
All I can do is laugh at the notion that Hillary Clinton is all about love and kindness.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)and her unapologetically hawkish ways, things like this puff piece only make her look hypocritical. It really doesn't help.
At first I laugh, then I get sick.
BlueMTexpat
(15,370 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)peggysue2
(10,835 posts)And a long overdue public apology from Favreau. I remember that stunt with the cardboard cutout and was ticked off. Too reminiscent of a frat boy prank and highly disrespectful to Hillary Clinton specifically and women in general.
But I've let those grudges go and I'm glad to see this in print. I means Favreau's has grownup as my own sons have, putting away childish things and attitudes. His positive message about Hillary Clinton seems sincere and echoes other personal stories from those who know Hillary the person as opposed to Hillary, the cardboard cutout.
So, bravo. Public apologies aren't easy. And thanks for the positive post, one voice. Appreciated.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)and he got a chance to see what many of us already knew. She is pretty terrific.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)and she is the Third Way. Never going to happen, no matter how much I am condescendingly instructed to do so.
Vinca
(50,285 posts)Trump is going to make mincemeat of her.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Thanks much for bringing it to GDP!
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)the Hillary cutout? That guy.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)and he eventually figured out that she was actually pretty awesome.
Anyway, i've been trying to get out of here for a good hour or so, and I keep clicking on things. We have a little break in our bad weather, the sun is actually shining, and my pain has finally leveled off enough that I might be able get some things done!
I hope you have a great afternoon, or whatever it is, where you are!
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)she had bigger fish at the time
noamnety
(20,234 posts)This changes everything.
BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)It makes her seem so genuine.
merrily
(45,251 posts)You can feel it in your bones.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Otherwise, I'm voting for the guy who's been worrying about the 99% all his life.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I am under the impression that she comes across as warm in small circles or one on one situations. A national campaign is exactly not that and she just can't handle being put on the spot without coming across as defensive, condescending, or arrogant. She can't undo my perception that ordinary people matter only if they can further her agenda. And she especially can't unsay one of the most chilling things I have heard from a politician, "we came, we saw, he died." I am most certainly not ready for Hillary. She actually frieghtens me.
I was instantly reminded of this TED talk that adds some additional context. Sally Kohn said, "Conservatives are really nice. Sean Hannity is one of the sweetest guys I've ever met. He spends his free time trying to fix up his staff on blind dates. And I know that if I ever had a problem, he would do anything he could to help. "
peacebird
(14,195 posts)Someone who loves monsanto, GMOs, outsourcing, H1B visas, Kissinger, neocon military hawks... Probably not someone I am "ready" to vote for as president.
insta8er
(960 posts)As warm and fuzzy this may sound, I am not ready for her until she stops taking money from special interests.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)Um ... Yeah ....
Right
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)she should just release the transcripts.....Oops, if she was trustworthy it would have already been done.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)the moderate 1980's Reagan Republican in 2008.
I am definitely not ready for one of the co-founders of the New Democrats neoliberal cancer who also is greatly loved by the co-founder of PNAC. We get a two-fer with Hillary Clinton - a neocon AND a neoliberal.
No thanks!
I agree and couldn't have said it better. Thank you.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)I'd vote for him again if I could.
I am looking forward to having a real traditional progressive as our next president. I don't hate him or anything, I just don't like New Dems. Their policies have failed the people while they have enriched the elite.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)OZi
(155 posts)And people are fine with the TPP? People would be fine with raising the retirement age on SS or whatever her position is on it this week? People think Dodd-Frank is all the regulation Wall Street needs? People think the only problem with our campaign finance system is the "dark money" part?
one_voice
(20,043 posts)Two different types of replies. I find this very interesting.
Two threads on Bernie.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251868475
another nice thread on Sanders.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511123324
noamnety
(20,234 posts)but this article is so bizarre and sexist - the headline is about how this is such an important election! and the substance makes it sound like she's running for head of the PTA in the 1950's.
one_voice
(20,043 posts)figured with all the other threads in GDP; how I framed this; it might be in good taste to just pass by.
I don't go into threads and say nasty things if I know the intention behind the thread was it was posted as a positive thread. I leave for the people it was intended for.
Before you say it, I know this is a discussion board. That doesn't negate my point. Sometimes, less is more.
Anyway, another day in GDP, right?
noamnety
(20,234 posts)I'm just trying to make it clear that I'm mocking the article, not you.
(unless you wrote it!)
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)That election seems like Disneyland on DU now, comparatively. Nice to see Favreau and Clinton working together now.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Eating two shit sandwiches a day is better than being forced to chow down three.
But it is still a lot to chow down on.
Have no idea of what to do about friends who really really like Bernie, but they are in continual fear of Trump.
Metaphysically speaking, if you focus on fear, you end up with that which you fear. I try to tell them that, but they are so convinced, despite Bernie's berning it up pollster-wise, of needing to be for Hillary, to avoid Trump, that I am at a loss.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)I hear this same crap every 4 years. If someone wants my vote, they have to earn it. I will not be goaded by "so and so is worse" arguments.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Of course, the usual suspects are crapping on it, by reflex. It's like Pavlov's dogs: they see something complementary of Hillary Clinton and they need to shit all over it.
Thanks for posting, one_voice
aikoaiko
(34,173 posts)Sad to say, too many lies.
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Forget about us wanting a fair shake and economic equialiy for our kids, how about our children living?
Hillary is a war hawk. I see no denial of that on DU.
She also, almost completely ignores climate change and I can only surmise that has to do with the money she takes in. If she doesn't even care about the environment her grandchild will live in what makes you think she cares about the rest of us?