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LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:10 PM Feb 2016

New Poll Shows Sanders Ahead of Clinton by Widest Margin Yet

OK, Bernie will probably lose South Carolina; but, I wouldn't order the cake for the coronation yet! The latest Reuters/Ipso poll shows Bernie ahead nationally by six points:

The survey, released Tuesday, shows Sanders polling at 41.7 percent among 998 likely Democratic voters, while Clinton got 35.5 percent.

As Salon points out, Reuters' daily tracking feature "illustrates that Sanders has led Clinton nationally for a majority of days in February."

The figures come just ahead of the Democratic primary in South Carolina on February 27, where Sanders is still trailing the former secretary of state. According to Bloomberg, the senator has 200 paid staffers on the ground in South Carolina, making it his biggest state operation thus far.

As Salon's deputy politics editor Sophia Tesfaye writes:

Although the next Democratic showdown does not look promising for the Sanders campaign, the Vermont senator looks to blunt any sense of momentum Clinton may have after a win in both Nevada and South Carolina by picking off crucial Super Tuesday states. Sanders has been steadily gaining ground in Georgia and Texas, which award approximately 20 percent of total delegates between the two of them.
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New Poll Shows Sanders Ahead of Clinton by Widest Margin Yet (Original Post) LongTomH Feb 2016 OP
That sound that you hear is the gnashing of teeth. CentralMass Feb 2016 #1
Why aren't any of those states voting! TheFarseer Feb 2016 #2
Schedule is front loaded for conservatives, so you are endorsing the narrative they want. kristopher Feb 2016 #7
The Revolution MAY Be Televised... (if Comcast allows it.) AzDar Feb 2016 #3
The poll in question is bogus. it is one where you can put whatever filters you want Lucinda Feb 2016 #4
It's "likely Democratic voters" revbones Feb 2016 #8
No it's not. Likely Dem voters is 60/35 Hillary: Lucinda Feb 2016 #12
No, it is not likely Democratic voters Godhumor Feb 2016 #13
"He needs to quit" whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #5
you forgot this key data DrDan Feb 2016 #6
Even without considering this YUGE poll, it is virtually tied among all likely voters: Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #9
K&R kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #10
We've debunked this poll so many times its ridiculous vdogg Feb 2016 #11
Yes, polls can be tricky as predictive tools. Maedhros Feb 2016 #15
That's silly. The Super Tuesday states are all red, with a lot of conservaDems. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #17
Blue states like Michigan and Florida vdogg Feb 2016 #18
Florida is a purple state, not blue. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #21
LOL - here is reality MaggieD Feb 2016 #14
K&R amborin Feb 2016 #16
kick nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #19
kicked and rec'd Vote2016 Feb 2016 #20
Please volunteer for Bernie for a few hours this weekend... In any state, especially SC and Sup Tues JudyM Feb 2016 #22

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
2. Why aren't any of those states voting!
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:14 PM
Feb 2016

I think if he can win 6 of the 12 places voting on tues, this could still be do-able.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
7. Schedule is front loaded for conservatives, so you are endorsing the narrative they want.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:22 PM
Feb 2016

Why not point out that it isn't a winner take all system so Bernie is going to get a lot of delegates even if he only wins a few states. Then, his turn starts shortly after but even then his strongest base states still won't be until the very end end.

It's deliberately designed to keep out real economic liberals.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
4. The poll in question is bogus. it is one where you can put whatever filters you want
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:16 PM
Feb 2016

on raw data. They are quoting numbers from this non weighted unfiltered version:

http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR131/

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
8. It's "likely Democratic voters"
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:22 PM
Feb 2016

You can filter the data if you want a subset that will show Hillary winning, but overall Sanders leads.

Realistically you're not going to have only those aged 50+ with $100k income voting.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
13. No, it is not likely Democratic voters
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:28 PM
Feb 2016

There is a specific filter for likely Democratic voters. That result everyone is discussing is for the unfiltered total of all respondents regardless of political leaning, registration etc. Using the actual likely voter screen is Clinton +7. And using Reuters official total for the week, as found on Pollster, is Clinton +5.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
6. you forgot this key data
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:22 PM
Feb 2016

Reuters also found that Sanders would win in a landslide against GOP frontrunner Donald Trump, taking 43.6 percent to Trump's 30.4 percent, in a survey of 1,574 respondents.

beat trump by 13 . . . geez louise - must be an on-line poll

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
9. Even without considering this YUGE poll, it is virtually tied among all likely voters:
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:23 PM
Feb 2016

Real Clear Politics and Pollster show the national race with Hillary about 5% ahead, but those aggregations include polls of likely voters (most accurate) and mere registered voters and all adults, and when you aggregate the polls of only likely voters, Hillary's lead falls by half:



If you then cut out a complete bullshit pollster like Gravis (showed huge pro-Hillary house effects in Iowa and New Hampshire), the national race is tied:

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
11. We've debunked this poll so many times its ridiculous
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:23 PM
Feb 2016

Yet like a cockroach, it never dies. If Bernie is ahead 6 points national then he'll win all Super Tuesday states in a landslide. See you March 1st.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
15. Yes, polls can be tricky as predictive tools.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:33 PM
Feb 2016

What this poll shows is that, nationally, Bernie Sanders is more popular than Hillary Clinton. Registered Democrats probably skew Hillary's way, because they tend to be timid and select what they consider to be the safest choice - which, in this context, means 'name recognition.'

Much of Sanders' support comes from those who have been marginalized and ignored by the Party - independents and unregistered voters. His challenge is to activate those people, and so far he appears to be succeeding.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
17. That's silly. The Super Tuesday states are all red, with a lot of conservaDems.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 03:41 PM
Feb 2016

That's where Hillary's base of support resides. Look for Sanders to start booming after Super Tuesday when more blue states start voting.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
18. Blue states like Michigan and Florida
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:09 PM
Feb 2016

Where Hillary is up double digits? We really need to retire this red states don't matter meme too. Those Dems in red states still vote for congress too...

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
21. Florida is a purple state, not blue.
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:53 PM
Feb 2016

The red states don't matter for us in the electoral vote. The red states are SO gerrymandered they hardly matter in the congressional vote either. You know that (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt).

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
22. Please volunteer for Bernie for a few hours this weekend... In any state, especially SC and Sup Tues
Fri Feb 26, 2016, 06:57 PM
Feb 2016
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