2016 Postmortem
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Santorum: Satan is Systematically Destroying America
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/santorum-satan-systematically-destroying-america
excerpt:
This is not a political war at all. This is not a cultural war. This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country - the United States of America. If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age? There is no one else to go after other than the United States and that has been the case now for almost two hundred years, once America's preeminence was sown by our great Founding Fathers...
And so what we saw this domino effect, once the colleges fell and those who were being education in our institutions, the next was the church. Now youd say, wait, the Catholic Church? No. We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic but the Judeo-Christian ethic was a Protestant Judeo-Christian ethic, sure the Catholics had some influence, but this was a Protestant country and the Protestant ethic, mainstream, mainline Protestantism, and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is in shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it. So they attacked mainline Protestantism, they attacked the Church, and what better way to go after smart people who also believe theyre pious to use both vanity and pride to also go after the Church.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)flakey_foont
(3,338 posts)DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)"the devil's advocate" when at the end al pacino (satan) says "you must admit i owned the 20th century".
Denninmi
(6,581 posts)Could it be Satan?
NAO
(3,425 posts)Santorum/Church Lady parodies, in the spirit of the Sarah Palin/Tina Fey bits.
provis99
(13,062 posts)ain't going to win you the fundamentalist vote...
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Protestant churches like Anglicans or the more liberal wing of Presbyterians or even Methodist. On this fundamentalist Protestants would totally agree. In fact it sounds very much like a fundamentalist Protestant screed.
provis99
(13,062 posts)the liberal churches are "extremist".
The fools won't know Santorum is talking about the liberals, and not them.
Redstate Bluegirl
(213 posts)With emphasis on rant:
mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)party and run for president. Wait ... you don't think ..? nah couldn't be. But maybe, it would explain a lot!
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Ebadlun
(336 posts)is the father of lies.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)It's part of the "Jesus is coming soon" mantra.
for a Roman Catholic like Santorum who is a former U.S. Senator representing a historically Democratic industrial northeastern state - it is more than a bit odd.
renie408
(9,854 posts)15...20 people, tops?
Look, I live in fundie central and this kind of talk is going to make even people here nervous.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)would qualify as hardline fundamentalist. They are of course a minority of the general population. But they are the sort that tends to vote in mass and they tend to make for loyal foot soldiers for the religious right - the kind of people who drag all their friends, relatives and neighbors to the polls. In the general election this talk would still tend to hurt Santorum as most people would find it too extreme even by Evangelical standards. In the race the Republican nomination it may very well help him in an era where social conservatives including hardline fundamentalist play a leading roll.
renie408
(9,854 posts)A HARD CORE fundamentalist not only talks the talk (in tongues, no less), they walk the walk (usually in an ankle length skirt if they are female). I live in South Carolina. I know A LOT of Sunday Christians. I know many people who question evolution, but only a few who will say that it isn't true. I know plenty of people who will tell you they believe in the Bible, but personally don't know any that take it literally.
I agree about the hard core being hard core voters, too and about needing to sound hard core to win the Republican nomination. But I would be willing to bet that if it got down to brass tacks, Rick Santorum scares those Sunday Christians just as much as he scares me. Because he takes it just a tad too far even for them. People don't like to be messed with and Rick Santorum is just itching to mess with us. ALL of us. Even Sunday Christians who tell a pollster that they believe in the Adam and Eve story can see that.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)After all - even the typical Assemblies of God or Church of the Nazarene church goers really dont want to make waves. Very few are actually looking for a fight. Here we have Rick Santorum openly challenging the Christian faith of the President of the United States and even alleging that the Presidents support for prenatal care is some kind of ungodly-satanic conspiracy. Im sure they have heard that kind of talk before - but from one of those loony preachers who was just passing through - never from a leading contender for a major partys nomination for President of the United States. This is completely unprecedented at least in modern times. This is far more extreme than anything Sarah Palin ever said. I just hope that crazy Ricky (who does after all look just like a Fundamentalist youth pastor) doesnt scare them too much until after he secures the Republican nomination. I shall pray earnestly for his overwhelming victory in the upcoming Michigan primary with many more to follow.
NAO
(3,425 posts)believed the bible was literal (young earth creation), salvation by grace through faith (no works), immersion baptism (no sprinkling) and definitely no speaking in tongues (it was a gift in apostolic times to jump-start Christianity).
Definitions of fundamentalism differ, but I think it's safe to say those who:
1) believe in creationism and
2) believe the rapture is coming and
3) believe the bible is the literal word of god
can be safely classed as fundamentalists. That is about 40% of US citizens if polls are to be believed.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts):sarchasm:
tfrey1225
(34 posts)something like this only stands to make him MORE popular with the lunatics who own the GOP.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)So all you Republican lurkers, forget you saw this.
Santorum is a really smart guy and we are really afraid to face him.