Today, I end my flirtation w/ Bernie Sanders.

[jaysunb]

I believe he is a good and honorable man whose ideas and policies are at the core of progressive values. I thank and salute him for putting himself and those values in front of the American people--especially, young Americans. They must grasp the possibilities now, so that when they are running the world they'll have a template. But unfortunately, Senator Sanders will not be able to lead the progressive charge from the White House, he will remain an even more influential spokesman, leader and innovator for liberal causes. For that I am grateful.

I believe Sec. Clinton is by far the most qualified person-in either party- to be the next President. There are many things I don't like about her, personally, but I'm not voting for a " perfect person, I'd like to have a beer with'" I'm now voting for what I believe will be an incremental advancement of progressive ideals and quite possibly saving this country from chaos and ruin.

I hope a win by Secretary Clinton will bring coattails to get the Senate back and narrow the House gap. A President Clinton will be able to continue President Obama's addition of federal judges that will put a halt to some of the most egregious rulings that have permitted the country to go off the rails.

Thank you Senator Sanders and let's get behind Hillary Clinton whenever you get ready for continuing the progressive movement.

[beaglelover]

1. K&R!!!!!!!

[grossproffit]

2. Pure class. Recommended.

[PeaceNikki]

3. K & R!!

http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article62334862.html

[snagglepuss]

4. These "i've-seen-the-light" posts are not only unbelieveable but gagworthy.

welcome to ignore.

[demwing]

9. and I second that - "unbelieveable but gagworthy"

good luck with this tactic, you flirts

[PatrynXX]

56. yep

ie I've seen the light yes your right I need to step in line and go with YOUR flow. lalalalalalalalalala don't want to hear reality lalalalalalalala

[roguevalley]

120. she's likely to be indicted, she won't have coattails because all of the polls

say she can't be the pugs, she has a senate term and a sos term. How is that more qualified than bernie? No way. She is polarizing and divisive and none of the die hard HRC supporters from 2008 that I know ... a lot of people, are going to vote for her. This stuff feels like something done to demoralize the other side and the like.

Bernie to the convention for me. I paid 32$ and set up a monthly. I encourage others to do the same. Miss wall street needs to be primaried.

[Baobab]

174. Health care proposals are just rehashes of oft-failed ideas, making using them a crime.

The Helsinki protocols on medical experiments on human beings require informed consent and the protocol has to make sense, which means it needs to have a reasonable probability of working, but the United States has been subjected to a 20 year long medical economics experiment that they knew would never work.

Its the definition of insanity or worse to keep doing the same mistakes again and again for no reason.

Hillary wants to continue the same mistakes. But is it for no reason? No, the reason is back room trade deals that are hoping to undemocratically nail down policy in a way Presidents and legislators both here and in other countries cannot change, for corporations. Despite the fact that its not working.

I would not be surprised if they attempt to do this before the election. It seems likely.

When it comes out that they hid this, and it is and will, not just here, but globally, politicians attached to it will become infamous- they will be recognized as major crooks.

Some will likely be prosecuted for crimes against humanity for the deaths of a lot of people who were denied care because they had to be made a bad example for others to force them to spend money they did not have and had no way of getting. That kind of inhumanity has no place in the 21st century, which is characterized by incredible plenty and the end of the need for humans to work. Machines will do everything we want by mid century.

[NCcoast]

130. Yeah, let's resign ourselves to low expectation

Let's just give the whole corrupt machine back to one of it's architects and primary beneficiaries. We're serfs. We should humbly accept our position in life and do as we're told. Thank you citizen for helping me to see the light.

[calguy]

50. You must be "Feeling the Burn"

[MissDeeds]

119. +10000

[Persondem]

5. Thank you. Well said. K & R nt

[FangedNoumenom]

6. Enjoy your neoliberal nightmare.

The next 4-8 years are going to be a doozy.

[sadoldgirl]

7. While you will thank him, I'll vote for him on Tuesday! n/t

[SoLeftIAmRight]

30. Caucus on Tuesday - Colorado - Sanders

Who wins the swing states?

[liberal from boston]

101. Senator Sanders

Very happy to proudly vote in Massachusetts for Senator Sanders next Tuesday.

Senator Sanders in Texas drawing thousands of supporters:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511353892


http://usuncut.com/politics/media-blackout-as-thousands-of-bernie-supporters-march-in-45-cities/

[erlewyne]

158. Hey, sadoldgirl. I'm voting for Bernie Sanders!

And my vote will be for a winning team!
We are going to win this together.

[LexVegas]

8. Rec.nt

[ismnotwasm]

10. Very nice post

Thank you!

[BillyDawg]

11. Well said.

Just very well said. I applaud you.

[Robbins]

12. you never supported bernie then

clinton is enemey of all bernie has fought for.

bernie has no place because democratic party has choocen corporism and neconism over progressism.

Clinton is not qualified to be president.i said same thing on every republican running.

Your so naive.no clinton has ever had coattails.

Clinton is no progressive.i must be old man about to turn 42 because i can remember the truth about clintons.when i was young i was dumb enough to fall for bill clinton's line.won't do it again.

[mgmaggiemg]

14. Bernie a good guy

he's our handmaiden....go ahead and say it "madam president"

[jaysunb]

18. I'm 73. First presidential vote for LBJ. Naive ? really ? n/t

[Robbins]

24. well you support someone who liked goldwater over LBJ

the clintons never have coattails.

[jaysunb]

28. I liked McGovern too, so I've had that moment. n/t

[Robbins]

32. so your supporting clinton

who praised kissinger.enemy of everything mcgovern stood for.

[jaysunb]

37. Should Kissinger be an equation in my choices ? n/t

[JonLeibowitz]

41. Yes. n/t

[MisterFred]

131. Yes.

[stillwaiting]

167. Yes. And Robert Kagan.

She's telling us who she is by her actions and by those with power that openly support her.

[onenote]

73. I like Sanders. I also like Warren.

Warren was a repub during the Nixon and Reagan years.

I don't judge her on that and I don't judge Clinton on what she did when she was 17. I support Bernie because I like his ideas today more than I like Clinton's ideas today. But I will vote for Clinton if she gets the nomination because I like her ideas today more than I like the ideas of any of the repubs today.

[jaysunb]

91. +1 n/t

[deurbano]

126. That's my bottom line, too.

I'll vote for Sanders in the primary, but if Clinton is the nominee, I hope to hell she wins. (And I don't see any benefit in trying to destroy her in the primaries.) Getting the Senate back should be another huge priority.

[The Wielding Truth]

138. Yep and for now I will not settle for status quo when there is a chance for true reform.

[Baobab]

173. You should listen to what Senator Warren has been saying on the trade deals

Hillary has a very real problem which is that her back room policies are nothing like what she portrays herself to be. For example, while pushing Clinton Care, behind the scenes the WTO - which they were supporters of, was making public health care WTO-illegal in a systematic manner. If they had devoted 1/10 of the 20 years of energy, tens of thousands of lobbyists and worldwide effort they put into making things like public higher education and quality health care for all, impossible with these bad big investor protection and small investor de-protection 'agreements' - if they put just one tenth into making good policy, which included a good health care model that could work, if they applied their energy to that, to bring a medicare for all system for the US, and dismantled the standstill, rollback and all the rest,then we would have the best health care in the world by far. This isn't some little thing, its just huge, as you can see if you investigate a bit into it. Its basically a global coup that removes everything of economic importance that could give families breathing room from being changeable by politicians, for corporate interests.

[onenote]

179. What part of my saying I'm supporting Sanders over Clinton did you not understand?

[Baobab]

181. Actually, onenote, I totally agree with you. I also support Senator Warren

Sanders and Warren amount to rays of sunshine shining into an increasingly dark place, and both have my enthusiastic support.

[Baobab]

186. You're misunderstanding what I said..

you can see that, right?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

29. Lol! Exaggerate much?

[Pharaoh]

78. ^^this^^

[Agschmid]

115. So that whole other post you started where you said you were sick of being called names...

Led you to call someone else a name?

...

Got it.

[mgmaggiemg]

13. welcome to HRC 2016

Bernie is a good guy and has more to contribute as senator...he's a great rudder to keep the dems steering to the left...and HRC will be in the wheel house responding as she does intuitively to voters concerns ....and advocating for them....as she has for decades...go ahead and say it "madam president"

[pangaia]

33. Gag !

[JonLeibowitz]

43. What a load of horse crap, am i right?

[calguy]

58. Nope. You're wrong but too mad to see it

[JonLeibowitz]

63. How do you intuitively respond to voters' concerns while taking huge kickbacks from corporations

and denying the public transparency. transparency is a concern of many voters, and she has not responded intuitively, let alone ethically or appropriately.

[Pharaoh]

82. ^^this^^

[chwaliszewski]

108. ^^that^^

[elmac]

94. "will be in the wheel house"

why does that conjure up visions of the Titanic sinking?

[pangaia]

170. You couldn't possibly be more right.

[gordyfl]

157. Keep Dreaming

[aikoaiko]

15. HRC supporters will welcome you.

They are good at that.

[jaysunb]

19. I thought we were ALL democrats ?? n/t

[pangaia]

34. That's relative.

[aikoaiko]

117. I don't know that we are all democrats (emphasis on the little d).

[elleng]

16. 'If we are going to nominate someone who 50% of our people can't stand,

we are going to lose.'

Marco Rubio

Goes both ways, for BOTH parties.

[Codeine]

23. If 50% of our people can't stand Clinton she'll fail to win the nom.

Sort of inherent in the fact that only two people are running.

[MisterFred]

132. Fair enough.

But if 40% of our people can't stand Clinton, she'll win the nomination, lose the general, and bring down scores of down-ballot Democrats with her.

[jaysunb]

25. You're right...

and I'm betting Clintons favorable ratings will rise as we go along.

[elleng]

31. Maybe, but I recall hearing a story recently

that her favorables have NEVER risen, in any of the elections in which she's run. I'll grant you that this is a peculiar year.

[jaysunb]

54. "Peculiar" is an understatement. LOL n/t

[Politicalboi]

77. You guys are dreamers

[Armstead]

81. Not with me...20+ years of the Clintons is enough

[jaysunb]

84. I hear you Armstead, but what are the options ? n/t

[Armstead]

102. Bernie Sanders

He is every bit as viable....More So possibly. Having come so far so fast, he is resonating....Its an uphill battle against Clinton because she has been laying the groundwork for years.

But I am abolutely convinced that in a General election he could beat the Klown Kar GOP, if the Democrats actually got with him.

Pipe dream maybe, but tgat's my story and I'm sticking with it.

[jaysunb]

103. +1 nt

[Baobab]

182. Heres why!-Bill Clinton was paid $600,000 by a Dutch health insurer for a 45 min. speech in 2013 but

they were no ordinary insurer, and 2013 wasn't an ordinary year for them.

They were involved in a law suit in a special trade court with the Slovak Republic, under a 90s era bilaeral investment treaty, over the issue of Slovakia's voting to limit the profits of the health insurer to 20% and gradually switch the nation back to single payer health care.

And therein lies a story, as they say.

You can read the case documents on italaw.com - the award from 2014, italaw3207 I think its numbered. has a factual summary.

Also, this document has a short synopsis of what happened..

https://www.policyalternatives.ca/publications/reports/major-complications

[elljay]

147. What would make that happen?

Her favorables have never risen in any campaign. Her surrogates offend people with their misrepresentations, she refuses to release the transcripts that would prove that she is not in the pocket of Wall Street, and her positions change constantly. With all of her money and political instincts, she still had government emails on a home server (I work in the data storage industry and we ALL know that this isn't secure). Republicans loathe her. Independents and Bernie supporters dislike and distrust her. Who are these people who are going to suddenly start liking her? Some will tolerate her - I will vote for her only as the better of two evils, as her social agenda is ok, even though her financial agenda is Republican-lite. I will not, however, ever find her favorable or acceptable as compared to a real progressive.

[grasswire]

154. you would be wrong about that

The results from her last three campaigns show that her numbers remain static. They never grow. She has no pool of untapped voters. The stats don't lie.

Just today, this was emphasized by Lawrence O'Donnell again. Her numbers are flat, through three campaigns.

[noiretextatique]

175. Historically, that is not the case

Even though she won her senate bid. Also not the case with Obama.

[restorefreedom]

86. and yet many are blind to that fact.

[elleng]

96. It appears that way,

but doesn't stop me from re-posting it.

[restorefreedom]

99. if you posted it daily, it would work for me.

sadly, hourly might even be necessary......

[elleng]

105. 3X today so far! EDIT!

Last edited Sun Feb 28, 2016, 01:06 AM - Edit history (1)

1X for NEW day, @ 12:00 a.m!

[restorefreedom]

106. outstanding! :) nt

[NurseJackie]

17. Nicely done. Well written and from the heart!

[merrily]

20. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6495120

[pangaia]

36. Ooppsie ..

))

[azurnoir]

66. Lol good one

[retrowire]

75. lmao hey topic creator, why are you avoiding this? XD nt

[merrily]

187. crickets nt

[MADem]

184. Evolution, not revolution. nt

[hamsterjill]

21. Thank you for your post.

Hillary is going to make a great President. She will be even better for having competed with Senator Sanders and listened to his ideas. He has great value. But she is definitely the most qualified.

Go, Hillary!!!

[Robbins]

26. bet you couldn't wait to bash bernie

listened to his ideas

she will eather lose to trump or win in squeeker.she will be terrable president if that happens.

[hamsterjill]

49. She'll be great.

Now have yourself a nice evening and stop trying to start a fight with other people on a message board.

[Lucinda]

22. Welcome!

She is working hard on making sure those coattails are nice and strong! We have a lot of good people to elect, and we need to take congress back from those who think nothing of playing games with the lives of the people they are meant to serve.

[desmiller]

27. Typical

oh well.

[LWolf]

35. One win in one state, and suddenly

we're supposed to abandon everything we've worked for?

I don't think so.

I also don't think Clinton is the most qualified person. I also don't think she has coattails. I think, should she win the nomination, she lose the GE herself, let alone "coattails."

[jaysunb]

38. Will you abandon the democrats if she gets the nod ? n/t

[LWolf]

39. Ask me if she does.

Until then, I am firmly holding a better course.

[Robbins]

42. democrats already abandoned me

for bush crony kissinger lover CLinton who loves war and will screw over those on social safety net and working people of all races with more trade deals.

[Lizzie Poppet]

60. I will abandon HER, absolutely.

There will, however, be plenty of Democrats I vote for, further down the ballot...as there always are. I'll leave the presidential slot blank if there's not a candidate I can vote for (not just someone worse to vote against) on the ballot.

I'm not a Democrat. I'm a far-leftist who considers (or considered) herself a "fellow traveler" alongside the Democrats. Someone who almost always votes for Democrats...because they're the more-liberal choice. I've always (grudgingly) accepted decreasingly-liberal Democrats because that's what the party's been selecting, and the GOP alternative is almost invariably loathsome. I can't bring myself to do that any more...not after having this glimpse at what could be. Or, more crudely put, fuck compromise. Sorry...

My (non-)vote is no threat to a Hillary win in November, though (although I think she'd get destroyed): unless things change radically, no way my very blue state goes for the Republican. Until we get rid of the ridiculous, anachronistic Electoral College, this remains that relic's silver lining: there's no need whatsoever for "lesser of two evils" nose-holding in states that aren't in play.

[desmiller]

61. clinton forsaken me when she called me a super predator.

[Lucinda]

146. Are you a drug dealer or a gang member?

If not, she wasn't talking about you.

[desmiller]

161. neither. she was talking about young blacks.

i was in my mid teens when she made that speech. By questioning me like that, you just let me know that you condone that ugly speech. Therefore, you're possibly as dirty as she is if not more.

[Lucinda]

163. You are giving it a meaning you WANT it to have to fit your preconceived notions.

We have her on video, speaking the actual words she said, we don't have to guess about it.

[Live and Learn]

164. What do you have against pharmacists and police officers? nt

[Pharaoh]

90. No shit

she won Iowa by '02 percent, what is that about 13 people?

She won Nevada by about 700.

She won SC by about the same margin as Bernie won New hampshire.

Statistical tie.

I love these gloating hillary supporters! Like we are going to just roll over and play dead

[JDPriestly]

40. Hillary may do well compared to Bernie in the backward Southern states, Alabama, N. Carolina,

Mississippi, maybe even Louisiana, Tennessee and possibly Virginia where so many D.C. in-crowd folks live.

But look at these maps of past presidential elections:

http://www.270towin.com/historical-presidential-elections/

South Carolina last voted for a Democrat in 1976.

Check out the maps. You will see that most off the Southern states don't vote Democratic --ever.

Louisiana and Virginia and Georgia have occasionally gone blue.

But the maps tell you.

Democrats win when they get the vote out in states like New Hampshire, in states in which Bernie is strong.

The fight is by no means over.

Feel the Bern!

I hope that Bernie takes at to the convention and then on to the November election.

Hillary still has a long way to go. There will be lots of bad news for her on the scandal agenda. She has not won much of anything at all. She is ahead for the moment. But I and other Bernie supporters are in for the long haul --- in until after November.

I am 72, and in all my life there has never been such an inspiring candidate as Bernie. Never, not in all my long life.

Democrats, if we miss this chance to elect Bernie, we will have deeply failed our country.

Feel the Bern!

[jaysunb]

46. I feel you JD

But as I told a "youngster" unthread, "I had my McGovern moment" in 72. Not going there again. I've felt The Bern, and like it, but I know better.

[JDPriestly]

64. I'm 72. We will never have the chance to vote for a wonderful candidate like Bernie ever

again in our lifetimes. I'm not wasting the opportunity.

Feel the Bern!

Hillary is a horrible candidate. I will never ever vote for her although I will vote for all the other Democrats on my ballot.

What a tragic mistake it would be to vote for Hillary when we can vote for Bernie.

[jaysunb]

70. What if Bernie is NOT on the ballot ? Seriously. This doesn't sound like you. n/t

[JDPriestly]

74. I will not vote for Hillary. I will vote for all other Democrats on my ballot, many of whom

I know and have talked to personally.

[jaysunb]

89. I'll vote for them as well, but I'm not willing to cede the whitehouse. n/t

[JDPriestly]

114. Hillary will lose the White House. Bernie can win it.

[Dem2]

142. Noses are overated anyway

[jalan48]

44. I don't think incrementalism will fix the serious problems we face.

We're just treading water while the ocean level rises.

[Karma13612]

93. Yup, we are beyond tweeks.

Bridges are collapsing, water is poisoned and the earth is in the throws of climate change.

Time for an overhaul.

Bernie is not running out of an egotistical desire to be leader of the free world.
He is running in order to get us, and the planet back on track.

Why don't people see that?

[MisterP]

45. she benefits from CU and polls behind Trump

[ultragreen]

47. I'm not voting for Hillary Clinton

because she represents Wall Street and 0.01%, and on top of that she is an insufferable warmonger. To make matters even worse, she is less electable than Bernie Sanders. I hope the Clinton supporters get used to the idea of having Donald Trump as their next president. His election to the presidency will be your fault.

[BernieforPres2016]

48. Thanks to the OP and all who applauded

It's good to knock out a bunch of Full Ignores in one place.

[jaysunb]

57. Please proceed. n/t

[Thespian2]

51. If the 1%er is the nominee,

the Repukkkians win...

Kiss America goodbye...

[Number23]

52. Love it, jaysun!! Love it!

[Milliesmom]

53. Thanks, I'll pass

[Trust Buster]

55. Bernie supporters are sounding very extreme. I respect the OP poster's open mind.

[angrychair]

59. Not in the cards

The short version is most, if not all, republicans will drag their naked body across a room full of broken glass to vote against HRC in a general election. Many may not like casting a vote for tRump but they sure as hell are not going to let Clinton win. For all the concern about Sanders being a Democratic Socialist, little has been made of the vitriol hate republicans have for Clinton and the turn-out her name on the ticket will generate. The combination of Clinton and tRump have been the major driving factors for cross-over votes for Sanders so far.

You can counter that tRump is a xenophobic, racist asshat, which is true, sadly it won't matter.
He is not filling up 20,000 seat venues and besting every other republican, even in their own home state, with just republicans. The math is not In her favor.

[SusanCalvin]

62. After four states? Okay, your choice.... nt

[BernieforPres2016]

69. Strictly a trolling thread

Do you guys get blast emails on tactics from a Clinton operative? Try to make it a little less obvious.

[SusanCalvin]

71. Heh.

[BernieforPres2016]

79. Susan, hope it was clear I wasn't referencing you

[SusanCalvin]

83. It was.

[giftedgirl77]

116. A guy that just joined with a very clear intent accuses a person

that comes out for a democratic contender as a troll? That's ironic as hell.

[giftedgirl77]

129. Nicely done.

In another new low a poster with less than 50 posts uses ALEC as a source has their post left to continue the spread of hate & lies.

[longship]

65. Yet another I used to love Bernie Sanders but now love Hillary posts.

Of course we see about as many I used to be for Hillary Clinton but am now for Bernie posts.

So let's make sure that everybody who changes their minds announces it to the world so that part of the world will cheer and part of the world will flame.

I will not flame you for your decision. I will flame you for stirring the pot by announcing it to the world.

The only endorsement I have ever made here is that I will vote for Bernie Sanders in the MI primary and will support and vote for the Democratic presidential nominee in Nov. (In fact, I will vote straight Dem.)

To me, the primary is not a Battle Royale. It is November. The extent that people want to play childish games here on DU about Bernie vs Hillary, is the extent that we will be so divided by November that many here will forget the utter lunatic clown car that our nominees will face.

Does anybody here realistically think that Donald Fucker Trump can be elected to the Oval Office if we stay together? Or that utter religious lunatic Cruz? Or the ever thirsty Marco?

Yup! My choice is Bernie in the primary and the nominee in November. For the latter, anything else and you're shooting yourself, and the entire world, in the foot.

We are behind this election in GOTV. As my friend MineralMan will no doubt remind everybody here, winning in November is not just about the White House. That winning anywhere is about getting Democrats to the fucking polls on Election Day, or getting them absentee ballots in time.

Winning is all about GOTV!!! Get Out The Vote!

Nothing else matters much. The extent that we don't get Democrats to the polls is the extent that we lose up and down the ballot. Those who say that they won't vote for the nominee if it's <blah> are damaging progressives up and down the ballot. Thankfully it won't be long before you won't be able to advocate that here.

Let that sink in for a while because it is a fact. Remember that this year we are behind in GOTV. We have some shit to do.

If you are unsatisfied with the party put action to the problem and run for precinct delegate. Get like minded friends to do the same. Get enough of them together in a district, and you get a district delegate. Do that in enough districts, and you have state delegates. Then you have national delegates. Then do that in every state. That is how one changes the direction of the party, not from the fucking White House. It happens from bottom up.

If you think it cannot be done, just ask Jerry Falwell, the Moral Majority and Pat Robertson, the Christian a Coalition. Some of here watched them take over the GOP in the late 70's through the mid 90's. They turned an entire national political party into a revival meeting in about 15 years, beholden only to Jesus.

You want a progressive revolution? Bernie is necessary, but insufficient. We need progressives up and down the party structure. It does not happen from top-down, it happens from bottom-up. And we are a couple decades behind the GOP on organizing. It only we had churches...

[BernieforPres2016]

72. Hilarious, you flip it into yet another loyalty post

Full Ignore for you as well.

Keep it coming.

[longship]

134. I will vote for Bernie in the primary.

But I will vote for the nominee in November no matter who it is.

Let me make myself very clear.

I have no sympathy whatsoever for the I can never vote for Hillary if she's the nominee crowd. I suspect, in spite of my desire to have Bernie as the nominee, that it may not come to be. DU will then be blissfully rid of the disrupters who are impeding victory in November by throwing such monkey wrenches into the machine. When the nominee is selected, we'll be rid of such disruptions. In my opinion, it should start before the nominee is selected, even now. Such is the mayhem such opinions are stirring up here. That is doing neither candidate any good. In fact that hurts the party as a whole, up and down the ballot.

If Bernie wins, I will reach out to Hillary supporters (I already have.) but I don't think many of them are going to abandon the Democratic nominee. Nevertheless, I will engage them positively.

I guess that is something many DUers cannot do. Well, I am sure some will miss them here once the nominee is selected. Myself, I will celebrate peace and unity here for a change instead of the far, far too many months of nearly continuous petty arguments and childish tantrums. It's worse than Bugs and Daffy. "Bernie season!" "Hillary season!" "Bernie season!" "Hillary season!" etc. As I said, petty and childish.

Maybe then DU can take on the task of getting Democrats in office without the obstruction by folks who have clearly demonstrated that they have no intention in helping in that effort, but only want to obstruct.

My best of luck to you .

[radical noodle]

144. Fortunately there are a few

sane peple left on DU. We'll said longship.

[Tiggeroshii]

67. So you know there are 46 more states left to vote, right?

[rich.leftwing.artist]

68. win or lose, bernie rules!

"The agony of democracy, is persuading people to support what is best for them."
-- Jefferson

Win or lose, Bernie rules!

[jaysunb]

80. +1 Surprise. :) n/t

[Califonz]

76. I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords (nt)

[WillyT]

85. Sorry... No...

I respect your decision, because I respect you...

But... NO...

You may have flirted, but I have a major date...

With Destiny.

[Politicalboi]

87. Now everyone drink the Kool-Aid and get in line

You never supported Bernie. No true Bernie supporter would give up now. But you go ahead. We'll all being paying the price come November. And we'll say we told you so.

[William769]

88. Kick & recommended.

[ellennelle]

92. flirtation?

i'm sorry you could not manage more depth than "flirting."

qualifications for president should be determined by character and vision; by your criteria, obama was probably one of the least "qualified" candidates ever.

i don't know about you, but my choice to support obama was all about his character, particularly in contrast to what i was witnessing 8 years ago from hillary and her campaign. in addition to loathing what the DLC had done to the party and the country, and the clintons' role in that.

i so wished i could see change in her on those counts, but sadly, not.

the notion that "incremental" change will get us where we need to go is dangerous in the face of climate urgencies and the extent of wealth inequalities. hillary's record exposes her complicity in these dangers, which automatically disqualifies her in my mind.

and why turn tail with the SC loss? this is a red state that no democrat will carry in november. there are now 46 (FORTY-SIX) more states! delegates are counted proportionally, not state by state.

but, if you're this weak-kneed, by all means go with the incremental team. real change, and real movements need deeper commitments.

meanwhile, tho, please read charlie pierce's wisdom regarding these matters.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a42499/i-voted-for-bernie/

you can always change your mind. again.

[appalachiablue]

95. You have flirtations with US presidential candidates? And write an essay like this

expecting it to come across as sincere, amazing.

[rich.leftwing.artist]

97. win or lose, bernie rules!

"The agony of democracy, is persuading people to support what is best for them."
-- Jefferson

Win or lose, Bernie rules!

[Starry Messenger]

98. Happy to have your support!

[rich.leftwing.artist]

111. well, ever since Bernie said he's larry david, then i...

well, ever since Bernie said he's larry david, then i am happy to take over and be bernie! lol

bernie's campaign is a multi-million legged caterpillar, which will metamorphosize into a democratic butterfly!

[forest444]

100. Jaysunb:

If you saw it as a flirtation, Bernie Sanders may not have been your natural candidate in the first place.

Politics is nothing if not fluid, and disappointment simply comes with the territory. It always has. Bernie himself would probably tell you, moreover, that people come and go; but our shared ideals and goals endure - or at least should if we make some effort to stick to them no matter how big the electoral disappointments.

And if you're trying to avoid disappointment, let me assure that Hillary isn't your candidate either. The way the e-mail scandal is being prolonged and manipulated by our Republican friends (plus her own likability issues, some of them self-inflicted), she'll probably be trounced by Trump if she's the nominee.

[jaysunb]

112. Thanks Forest, but I'm not trying to avoid disappointment.

I gave money to Bernie, not because I thought he could win, but because I hoped to see his message get out and pull the party left. I just hope we ( democrats ) get our act together sooner rather than later. The game is rigged, but we can still make our presence felt/

[forest444]

121. Hear, hear.

It's still early. Plenty can still happen between now and California.

[jaysunb]

123. you're right. :) n/t

[Agnosticsherbet]

104. Well written.

Let's GOTV and win in November.

[cantbeserious]

107. Purchasing The Presidency Is Writ Large In The Direct And Indirect Ways Candidates Are Bribed

List Of - Publicly Disclosed - HRC Speeches And Fees - $ 21,667,000

A True One Percenter - Beholden To The Real Owners Of America - Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-27/snowden-sums-presidential-campaign-just-one-tweet

[BernieforPres2016]

109. Bribed is the right word

Enough with the "speeches" nonsense. Let's call it what it is.

[TryLogic]

135. The Clintons have mastered the mechanics of using their influence to make money.

They have perfected quid pro quo politics.

Sometimes called corruption.

[cantbeserious]

139. Sadly - All Too True - All The While - The 99% Suffer

eom

[Ishoutandscream2]

143. Damn. Over 21 million in two years

Obscene.

[appalachiablue]

149. That is stunning.

[fun n serious]

110. Perfectly said. Thank you Senator Sanders. You're a good man. nt

[WayBeyondBlue]

113. Huh?

Wow, artful trolling. OR has a crystal ball.

[SheilaT]

122. Scary.

Remind me again why someone who supports fracking, the TPP, sending refugee children home to be killed, bombing women and children, who says we will NEVER EVER have a single payer system, who supports private prisons, who is content to jail vast numbers of our fellow citizens, why is that person the best choice for President? What am I missing here?

We've had this bullshit for far too long now. Why the fuck should I support someone who is essentially my enemy?

[Carol Morgan]

124. Good luck with that

She won't win against Trump in the general.

Read this to find out why:
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency

[NCjack]

125. Good-bye. I'm in until the finish line with Bernie. /nt

[Nyan]

136. I'm there with you. nt

[artislife]

159. Count me in, too!

We knew today there would be a load of crappy OPs, and some presented like this one. We are not gonna give up.

[rpannier]

127. I don't wave the white flag so easily

I choose not to go down the path of social democratic movements of the early 20th century
Fight to the bitter end
And even when it appears over, you fight again

[jaysunb]

128. I like that. n/t

[Live and Learn]

165. And fight harder! +1000 nt

[That Guy 888]

133. Almost convincing...

But this type of shill campaigning is just as big a turn-off for me as the stereotypical "Berniebro" is for you Clinton supporters.

[backscatter712]

137. Yeah, this is a classic BrockBot post.

"I supported Bernie, but..."

Yeah, sure you supported Bernie....

[CdnExtraNational]

160. THIS

I noticed similar language in all of them.

There were a few the other day that stated:

Bernie's heart is in the right place, but...

And those were before even a single decisive win by Hillary.

[TIME TO PANIC]

141. Funny how these kind of posts all start the same.

Sanders is a good man, but.....

[CajunBlazer]

145. K&R

[ThreeWayFanny]

148. K & R !!,

[FreedomRain]

150. thanks for your words but

it's way too soon to give up,

[tommcc99]

151. Goodbye and good luck.

I will vote my conscience. I will vote for the best candidate, Senator Sanders.

[SunSeeker]

152. K & R

[Bassomar]

153. Nope, and Hillary is not a progressive or will continue a progressive movement.

[AlbertCat]

155. I believe Sec. Clinton is by far the most qualified person-in either party- to be the next President

This sentence proves this is BS

[immoderate]

180. Yup.

--imm

[elmac]

156. Oh brother

[whatchamacallit]

162. Haha what a load of shit

[Martin Eden]

166. Hillary Clinton is a neoliberal, not a progressive.

And her greatest qualification -- foreign policy experience -- is the biggest reason I won't support her in a Democratic primary. Voting to give GW Bush authority to invade Iraq was horrible judgment, and pushing to overthrow the government in Libya shows she failed to learn the critically important lesson about regime change in the Middle East.

[Zorra]

168. Sorry to hear that. Let us know next December how that decision worked out for you. nt

[RBInMaine]

169. Sanders is DONE.

[One of the 99]

171. Don't give up hope

because of one loss. Bernie is bringing up important issues that need to discussed. He needs out support more than ever.

[cwydro]

172. K and r.

I recently decided to support Hillary also.

My 89 year old mother will be voting for her, and I just learned my sister will be too. Sis lives in SC, so she actually already has voted for her.

It seems many Bernie supporters are literally "feeling the burn" this weekend because their candidate got smoked.

[noiretextatique]

176. Former Secretary Clinton

Still is not my choice, but I respect your choice

[Bayard]

177. President Trump?

The very words make me gag.

I'm Bernie all the way. He's one of the only honest politicians out there, sincere about giving regular people a break and changing this country for the better. I'm sick of hearing Hillary is inevitable. But if the machine gives her the nom, we don't have a choice--we have to vote for her in the general election. I'm afraid too many will give up, and/or be pissed enough, to not vote at all.

And then, god help us and the rest of the world.

[Bluenorthwest]

178. Straight Moderates admit to being DOMAcrats, what a fucking surprise!

"Incremental' means keep discriminating, keep up the police abuses, maintain injustice and change as little as possible. Those of you who want 'incremental' progress don't want progress at all, humans are temporary beings, our lives are too short for delays and deferments of the things we need to pursue happiness. Incremental Clinton means 'hey, we support you so give us money but here's DOMA and 20 years of denigrating speech about how our God does not like you people'. To get rid of that crap, we had to not elect Hillary in 08. Had we elected her, we'd still have DOMA. And it would still be 'pragmatism, you people can't expect much, if we give you a crumb say thank you sir, thank you madam and move on, do not ask for equality to your Christian Superiors!!!'

[arcane1]

183. I've seen a lot of these lately.

Funny how that works.

[PonyUp]

185. You never really loved him. n/t

[mhatrw]

188. Fuck selling out to corporations and the establishment.

I guess those who feel their corporate serf lives are comfortable for them can afford to make this sort of political compromise.

For the rest of us, let us continue to fight our oligarchy until our last dying breaths.