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AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:20 PM Feb 2016

Attempting to bring Bernie supporters to heel is not a way to motivate them

Acting like an oppressive parent is not a way to get people to do things, and in fact fuels rebellion. That should be part of a basic understanding of human psychology. Thus, your doing nothing but motivating Bernie supporters to do the opposite.

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Attempting to bring Bernie supporters to heel is not a way to motivate them (Original Post) AZ Progressive Feb 2016 OP
Even if Hillary gets the nom. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #1
That's great, you should keep pushing your ideals. liberal N proud Feb 2016 #5
Never said I wouldn't vote for Hillary. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #14
There have been many here saying they would rather have Trump liberal N proud Feb 2016 #20
I wouldn't... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #53
Look no further than the responses to this post liberal N proud Feb 2016 #58
Have fun... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #63
really? i missed that... where did any Bernie supporter on DU say that? tk2kewl Feb 2016 #65
Read this thread liberal N proud Feb 2016 #66
so far i see nothing of the sort. tk2kewl Feb 2016 #68
Not rather have Trump... jack_krass Feb 2016 #67
Many? How many? passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #69
Yes, I have encountered them. SylviaD Feb 2016 #79
Bernie can compete in Kansas? lololol DrDan Feb 2016 #24
Don't assume shit about my state. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #32
lived in topeka for 18 months - ever heard of vern miller - the ag? he was my neighbor DrDan Feb 2016 #88
Onthe other hand, hubby & I will not vote for Hillary. Period. peacebird Feb 2016 #27
Mr. Trump thanks you, dear sister_rosa_refried Feb 2016 #43
And we thank the DNC for CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #91
Exactly, CoffeeCat, exactly. peacebird Feb 2016 #99
You nailed it. eom fleur-de-lisa Feb 2016 #100
Jury results.... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #47
I'm in a red state so it doesn't matter if I vote Downwinder Feb 2016 #82
Hillary already said we can't have those things Matt_in_STL Feb 2016 #31
So what? PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #80
Yes, because Hillary has a great track record of listening to the little people Matt_in_STL Feb 2016 #84
If we put enough pressure on she'll have to pay attention or risk looking like... PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #87
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #42
Personally I find your response condesending, as in; greiner3 Feb 2016 #90
It has nothing to do with her supporters for me, although they can be insufferable. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #2
ALERTER'S COMMENTS MisterP Feb 2016 #40
Someone is alert-stalking these posts. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #50
Same here. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #55
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #3
To be fair, though - nothing anyone says, in any manner whatsoever, changes that Hillary djean111 Feb 2016 #4
I agree, whether Hillary's supporters are nice or insufferable I'm not going to vote for her BernieforPres2016 Feb 2016 #10
If she gets the nom. fairly. PyaarRevolution Feb 2016 #15
She does not care about that. If she wins, she has won. That's pretty much her goal. djean111 Feb 2016 #95
Sanders supporters are responsible for themselves bigtree Feb 2016 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #9
hoo boy, you got THAT right Skittles Feb 2016 #85
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #7
'Hillarians' suggest that you have no real regard for unity bigtree Feb 2016 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #16
Welcome to DU...nt SidDithers Feb 2016 #17
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #18
I'm sure y'all will repeat it another 10,000 posts though alcibiades_mystery Feb 2016 #19
... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #8
That's the Clinton Way - Guess What, Bernie Sanders Supporters Don't Suffer Fools ! Impedimentus Feb 2016 #13
The jury is in: HubertHeaver Feb 2016 #49
Alerters have been very, very busy on this thread. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #51
The alerts seemed to be written by the same person. HubertHeaver Feb 2016 #57
I completely agree. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #60
And if so, they're done for the day. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #62
Thank goodness! ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #64
A shutout! Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #56
A 0-7 time-out! HubertHeaver Feb 2016 #59
Yup. I had been napping, and then I got up and received an alert the ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #61
Of course it isn't. LWolf Feb 2016 #11
this should not even have to be said -- it's the result of DNC entitlement that nashville_brook Feb 2016 #21
I will never ever hold my nose to vote for someone who is appalling - truedelphi Feb 2016 #28
I wonder if Bernie supporters ever think that may sufrommich Feb 2016 #22
Yes, that's why the most Internet-savvy demographic supports Sanders 70/30. jeff47 Feb 2016 #30
I am sure they get noticed all the time Matt_in_STL Feb 2016 #33
work both ways, how? like HRC won't support the 99% once in office? nashville_brook Feb 2016 #45
I haven't seen Clinton supporters or Clinton herself BainsBane Feb 2016 #23
There's plenty of posts continuing to do just that. jeff47 Feb 2016 #29
The lecturing and punishments have barely started. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #25
AND since this is occurring at the same time a DNC vice chairwoman is defecting - truedelphi Feb 2016 #26
No matter who you vote for, just VOTE!! Milliesmom Feb 2016 #34
I think it's important not to confuse the people here who take themselves way too seriously Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #35
K&R just for the title alone! dchill Feb 2016 #36
ditto (nt) :) Babel_17 Feb 2016 #54
As I told someone once "There's two things I don't respond well to" hobbit709 Feb 2016 #37
I wonder how many Hillary supporters were PUMAs in 2008. N/T Harcourdt Fenton Mud Feb 2016 #38
Who cares? Cary Feb 2016 #39
The constant beratement of Sanders supporters to vote for Clinton Lordquinton Feb 2016 #41
We must not disobey the wishes of the queen RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #44
Good point. Here's a little treat for you. ucrdem Feb 2016 #46
Acting like an oppresive parent indeed. And they accuse US of paternalism. Too funny. n/t FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #48
Clintons will never get my vote in part for the following Geronimoe Feb 2016 #52
So you're saying that sanders supporters are spoiled children dlwickham Feb 2016 #70
It seems like that's how Hillary supporters see Bernie supporters as AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #78
The main issue as I see it is that many Bernie supporters aren't even Democrats.. SylviaD Feb 2016 #71
I've voted straight-ticket Dem. party candidates since 1980 Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #76
Well I didn't mean people like you, Autumn Colors! SylviaD Feb 2016 #77
Have you ever stopped to think forjusticethunders Feb 2016 #96
It is as much socialist underground PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #83
I meant "big D" Democrat. n/t SylviaD Feb 2016 #94
How do you suggest creeksneakers2 Feb 2016 #72
I would have to say that many Bernie supporters treestar Feb 2016 #73
Exactly! SylviaD Feb 2016 #75
Bernie supporters are voting on issues. PADemD Feb 2016 #92
K&R Owl Feb 2016 #97
Why should you get the keys to the family sedan LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #74
This is going to be a thread record for alerts! LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #81
I'm already motivated. To vote for the most progressive candidate on the GE balllot. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #86
And holding one's breath is childish. Thor_MN Feb 2016 #89
GDP isnt about motivating people, silly! Its about insulting them! Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #93
Is that what they are doing? I expected being wooed by her natural warmth and good humor. thereismore Feb 2016 #98
Yes I never respond well to UglyGreed Feb 2016 #101

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
1. Even if Hillary gets the nom.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:22 PM
Feb 2016

I will not shut up about tuition free college and Medicare for all and I hope all of you who vote for Hillary and support her in campaigning SHOULD she get the nom. do the same.
We won't roll over.

liberal N proud

(60,340 posts)
5. That's great, you should keep pushing your ideals.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:28 PM
Feb 2016

But in the event Bernie does not get the nomination, remember if a Democrat does not get elected and if the Democrats don't regain some control in Congress , those ideals have less than a zero chance of realization.

Keep fighting for what you believe, but know how to get there.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
14. Never said I wouldn't vote for Hillary.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:39 PM
Feb 2016

But in my state, Hillary won't win. I actually think Bernie can put states like mine, KS, in play in the GE which Hillary can't. This is just my opinion though.
Regardless, even if she gets the nom. and wins I will continue to pressure her. That reminds me, I thought I might add I will be donating money to Chris Matthew's wives' opponent to try to help him win. I hope to help make sure that if Hillary wins the nom. and president she will be surrounded by people who share Bernie's mindset on issues.

DUbeornot2be

(367 posts)
53. I wouldn't...
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:55 PM
Feb 2016

...rather have trump but I really don't see much difference when it comes down to it. Both will set the stage for corporations to thrive and for citizens to pound sand.

they both play the same games for money and power...

I'm voting for Bernie twice because he's a man of integrity who votes for me...!

liberal N proud

(60,340 posts)
58. Look no further than the responses to this post
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:03 PM
Feb 2016

Hope you all enjoy Tumpmerica!

I think I might have to leave.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
68. so far i see nothing of the sort.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:11 PM
Feb 2016

if you think not voting for Hillary means some one *wants* trump, then you do not understand what is happening

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
69. Many? How many?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:13 PM
Feb 2016

I haven't seen it, and I'm not doubting a few have, but many? I don't have time to read every thread.

SylviaD

(721 posts)
79. Yes, I have encountered them.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:46 PM
Feb 2016

But, I must admit I prefer Trump to other Republicans especially Bush and his ilk.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
32. Don't assume shit about my state.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:09 PM
Feb 2016

It's suspected that Brownback committed voter FRAUD in this last election. Yes, you read that right. I said voter fraud so before you think we're a lost cause, a bunch of lemmings willing to follow Brownback over a cliff, think again. You can look up the article in the Wichita or Topeka paper I believe and the info was coming from a statistician saying the info just doesn't wash.
If we want either Democratic nominee to get the Presidency we need to lean hard on getting rid of those machines, including everyone who lives in an electronic state dropping a sample paper ballot in that box with that anti-machine organization. If you don't see one at the polls or read about it, sign up with them and get a friend to sign up for it as well.
Oh and I think where Bernie has stood on gun rights in representing Vermont will help him, not hurt him, in states like KS and others in the GE and will definitely generate some crossover votes.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
88. lived in topeka for 18 months - ever heard of vern miller - the ag? he was my neighbor
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:10 PM
Feb 2016

tried to stop flights over Kansas that served liquor

took a job in east Africa to get out of topeka

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
91. And we thank the DNC for
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:38 PM
Feb 2016

putting their thumb on the scale for HRC, a warmonger who was endorsed last Friday by Robert Kagan, the founder of PNAC and the godfather of the entire neocon movement.

Thanks for offering us a candidate that is fully entrenched with the neocons and powerful Wall Street interests--disgusting things that, ten years ago, our party used to fight against.

Don't offer us a shit sandwich and then fault us for not being able to stomach the offering.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
47. Jury results....
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:40 PM
Feb 2016

On Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:30 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Onthe other hand, hubby & I will not vote for Hillary. Period.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1365892

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

"hubby & I will not vote for Hillary. Period."

If this is not worthy of a hide and a tombstone, then why even call it DEMOCRATIC Underground any more. Losing another "#Bernieorbust" non-democrat would not be all that much of a loss anyway.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:34 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Please read the TOS. Hillary is not our nominee. If this poster says this after the convention, you'd have a point. But you don't. Stop. NOW. And snide comments in your alert tend to be more worthy of a hide.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Did I just wake up like Rip Van Winkle, sleeping through the entire primary process?
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Go Stalin-ize another site.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Enough of this. This is the DEMOCRATIC Underground, not I will take all me toys and stomp off and help elect a Republican Underground. This person needs to be shown the door.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agree with the alerter - this is grounds for an immediate ban (several others recently have been banned for saying similar, last one this morning!) I vote to hide, and will alert on the jury results so the administrators will take appropriate action.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.


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And Juror #7, I've also taken it upon myself to alert, but you probably aren't going to like what my alert said. As one without a foot in either camp (merely voting for the nominee) and without a red-hot bias, I sent this:

This appears to be an ongoing spat. Because juror number 7 has stated he/she will alert the results, I've taken it upon myself to do the same. There alerter him/herself posted a rather disruptive comment in his/her alert so this should be looked at as a wash. Thanks!

Because it's true. All y'all need to cut it the hell out.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
80. So what?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:49 PM
Feb 2016

That's why, in the event she gets the nomination, you keep heaping on the pressure, even after her inauguration. Obama told everyone to go home and that's a big part of the reason why he didn't get some of what he wanted to change changed. That being said, he did turn into a giant hypocrite on DADT despite his campaign promising to end it. You can thank Nancy Pelosi in large part for DADT ending.
Additionally, don't forget how we got Civil Rights legislation passed. There was such enormous pressure on the Democrats, Kennedy then Johnson, that he had no other choice than to pass it. If we are asleep at the wheel then we'll get garbage like TPP shoved down our throats, along with the end of Net Neutrality, no tuition free college or Medicare for all; however, if we keep the pressure on and vote in the legislators who will enact the needed reforms we need we will see change.
The unfortunate thing is the denial of change Hillary and others are refusing to see. This change is happening and change is natural. Humans are inherently chaotic(albeit it's a small part of the makeup of our being), it's a coping mechanism for change.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
87. If we put enough pressure on she'll have to pay attention or risk looking like...
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:03 PM
Feb 2016

She's not acting in the will of the people and coming off as a giant asshole.

We know her trust issues and she can't afford to make it worse if she gets the GE and doesn't listen. You think she'll be able to genderwash her presidency and ignore us? Fat chance if we march on Washington every year for the issues I outlined and more and do it every month within' our city in solidarity.

Response to liberal N proud (Reply #5)

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
90. Personally I find your response condesending, as in;
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:26 PM
Feb 2016

Ideal;

satisfying one's conception of what is perfect; most suitable.

And;

"...know how to get there."

But you know, if Hillary wins the nomination I will vote a straight Democratic ticket, as always but in the knowledge that 'getting there' by winking, lying and devious means will soon piss off so many people neither one of us may want to see it happen.

onecaliberal

(32,888 posts)
2. It has nothing to do with her supporters for me, although they can be insufferable.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:23 PM
Feb 2016

It's her lack of trustworthiness. Her lust for the office is all consuming to her. She cares not for working people. She is morally bankrupt.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
40. ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:25 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary cares not for working people and is "MORALLY BANKRUPT??!" If that isn't over the top and worthy of a hide I don't know what qualifies... this is the presumptive Dem nominee, and poster is using descriptions likely to be found on free republic. Hide and a tombstone for this one.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:23 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Sigh.
Even though I admit to complex/mixed feelings about Hillary, I think this post goes too far (at best it's just an unsupported opinion, and in my opinion at least half wrong).
But, unfortunately, other posts in the same thread are just as bad.
(I'm most alarmed by a poster upthread who says that she and her husband will not vote for Hillary, no matter what. It's that kind of futile thinking that got us W. in 2000).
So I can't justify hiding this one in particular.

I'm looking forward to the general election when (please may this be true) we don't have to deal with this kind of stuff anymore
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I can't tell what the average level of insult of Dem candidate is flying around DU at the moment. I have seen some pretty bad things left, so I'll leave this one.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: All true, that why I expect it to be censored.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Clinton doesn't care for working people and has proven herself morally bankrupt in her foreign dealings and evisceration of the party
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
50. Someone is alert-stalking these posts.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:47 PM
Feb 2016

I posted the results of another jury up above. One in which the alerter was also over the line. I alerted on the alert, which is just a thought for this one.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
55. Same here.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:00 PM
Feb 2016

Sure, I've lost all respect for a depressingly large number of them here...but even if they were perfect angels I'd be rejecting their corporatist candidate.

Response to AZ Progressive (Original post)

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
4. To be fair, though - nothing anyone says, in any manner whatsoever, changes that Hillary
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:25 PM
Feb 2016

supports war, the TPP, fracking, the Third Way, Wall Street, cluster bombs, and increased H-1B visas. Partial list of stuff I despise. So as far as I am personally concerned, her supporters can rant and scold and condescend and attempt pathetic guilt trips all day long, and I still cannot support a candidate who supports those things I hate. Take her name off those things, and it could be a GOP candidate. Sending children back to die? Who does that sound like?

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
10. I agree, whether Hillary's supporters are nice or insufferable I'm not going to vote for her
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:31 PM
Feb 2016

The same goes for Hillary. She has a long and consistent track record of being corrupt and on the wrong side of one issue after another. What she says she's going to do in an effort to get votes is meaningless to me.

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
15. If she gets the nom. fairly.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:43 PM
Feb 2016

Before any Hillary supporters attack me I wish to be clear. When I say fairly I mean that they don't nominate Hillary at the convention with Bernie and Hillary at a tie.
If that doesn't happen vote for Hillary if she gets the nom. and keep on pressuring her. Show up at campaign events and demand tuition free college and medicare for all. Keep it up even past her inauguration on all those issues you feel serious about and she will change on those issues or look like a failure.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
95. She does not care about that. If she wins, she has won. That's pretty much her goal.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:13 AM
Feb 2016

And then she can get cheerily busy on the Third Way and PNAC to-do list. Why would she care about what the people think? She will have gotten enough votes, and really needs nothing more. IMO the GOP will cooperate on the things they wanted anyway, and we will just be treated to a sickening display of "buy-partisanship".

You think Obama cared one bit what voters thought when he put chained CPI on the table? or that there was a huge negative response to Fast Track and the TPP? You think Hillary will "expand Social Security" for the very poorest - and raise the cap to pay for that? Bwahahahaha! No, that would be the only "redistribution" that would happen, she will just lower payments to others. The only "cap" that would be raised is the budget for war.

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
6. Sanders supporters are responsible for themselves
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:28 PM
Feb 2016

...and aren't above reproach.

It's funny that you believe Sanders and his supporters are some sort of victims of people's expressed opinion. Even more curious when considering how much of the Sanders supporter effort here is anti-Hillary, more than it's pro-Bernie.

Response to bigtree (Reply #6)

Response to AZ Progressive (Original post)

bigtree

(86,005 posts)
12. 'Hillarians' suggest that you have no real regard for unity
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:38 PM
Feb 2016

...just a petty appeal for impunity for Sanders folks.

Response to bigtree (Reply #12)

Response to SidDithers (Reply #17)

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
19. I'm sure y'all will repeat it another 10,000 posts though
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:48 PM
Feb 2016


I learned from another post on DU that calling Bernie "nice" and his supporters "committed" is also not the way to get them to vote for the Democratic nominee in November.

So, basically, you guys are simply not going to vote for the Democratic nominee if it's not Sanders. OK, fine. But do you have to keep telling us like you're one of those crossfit people?

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
13. That's the Clinton Way - Guess What, Bernie Sanders Supporters Don't Suffer Fools !
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:38 PM
Feb 2016

Hubris, power and a malignant infection of greed lust - the Clinton Way !!!

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
49. The jury is in:
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:46 PM
Feb 2016

On Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:39 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

That's the Clinton Way - Guess What, Bernie Sanders Supporters Don't Suffer Fools !
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1365671

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

" a malignant infection of greed lust - the Clinton Way !!!"

hide this garbage- it belongs on free republic, NOT DU. Time to call MIRT and get another tombstone from the warehouse.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:44 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's offensive and ridiculous. But it's GDP during primary season.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I happen to agree. In any case, it is an opinion. Refute it (this is a challenging proposition) or ignore it.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If you can't take the heat, stay out of the primaries forum.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
51. Alerters have been very, very busy on this thread.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:51 PM
Feb 2016

At least this alerter didn't call for an immediate ban!!!111!!

On edit, forget what I said. I missed the second part on my first read-through. Hopefully this is the same person alerting and he/she has been put on a time out. I alerted on my jury results.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
60. I completely agree.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:05 PM
Feb 2016

I sent an alert on the one jury result I sat on the jury for because that's pretty blatant.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
61. Yup. I had been napping, and then I got up and received an alert the
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:06 PM
Feb 2016

second I logged in for this thread. If I had continued sleeping, they probably would have gotten away with another silly hide. The one I served on was a 4-3 leave.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
11. Of course it isn't.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:35 PM
Feb 2016

I find the idea that I would duck and shuffle into their line after one loss ludicrous.

I won't be doing that at all. Ever. My choices after the convention will be made according to what I see as the best way forward; not what they want me to think or see.

In all honesty, the best way to lose my GE vote is to try to bully, intimidate, or shame me into shutting up, getting in line, and voting as I'm told.

nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
21. this should not even have to be said -- it's the result of DNC entitlement that
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:49 PM
Feb 2016

"the party" finds itself in this position. if people don't show up to vote in the General, there will be a clear reason why and we'll turn our attention to electing good progressive Congress folks and state/local people in the mid-terms. the bright side this just that...should HRC win, we'd likely lose the house and senate forever and many states up for reapportionment in 2020 will go R as well.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
28. I will never ever hold my nose to vote for someone who is appalling -
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:06 PM
Feb 2016

I did that for the sake of the Democratic Party here in Calif. when Di Feinstein had Bustamante replace the People's Choice for Governor. And then Ahnold Schwartzennegger won that position.
And later I found out she had done this to get an "in" with Ahnold.

Friggin' Fuck em all! If they don't stand with the middle class and they sell us out in the back rooms, I owe them nothing!

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
22. I wonder if Bernie supporters ever think that may
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:49 PM
Feb 2016

work both ways. This is an ironic OP considering the past numerous OPs posted to degenerate Clinton voters,especially when Bernie loses. Here's a clue,Bernie supporters are getting noticed all over the internet,and not for their grace.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
33. I am sure they get noticed all the time
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:12 PM
Feb 2016

Just as soon as the Hillary supporters have their Bernie supporting grandkids come over to fix the darn Internet and show them where the browser is.

BainsBane

(53,056 posts)
23. I haven't seen Clinton supporters or Clinton herself
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:50 PM
Feb 2016

making threats to try to compel people into supporting their candidate.

In her speech last night, Hillary made clear she is taking "nothing and no one for granted" and is working hard to "earn every last vote." That has been a consistent message on her part.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
29. There's plenty of posts continuing to do just that.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:07 PM
Feb 2016

Though it appears the new talking point is to attempt reconciliation, based on the sudden shift in the attitudes of several DU posters.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
25. The lecturing and punishments have barely started.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:59 PM
Feb 2016

Once she wraps this mess up the whip will start cracking. It will be a fine time to find other ways to goof off.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
26. AND since this is occurring at the same time a DNC vice chairwoman is defecting -
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:01 PM
Feb 2016

It only proves how desperate they are!

 

Milliesmom

(493 posts)
34. No matter who you vote for, just VOTE!!
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:12 PM
Feb 2016

Get out the vote, talk to people, no matter which Democrat they plan on voting for , get them to register, go to colleges, do events, get people interested. Just vote.
Due to voter Id laws, gerrymandering and purging, Democrats are not coming out to vote, get them out, or we will lose to Republicans and the thought of any of them in the WH makes me wake up at night in a sweat.

A political Revolution is not sitting at home on the computer, it's out working to mobilize and get out the vote and take all the Republicans out of office over the next 1-5 years. I am a 74 year old female and have been to 5 events already this year.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
35. I think it's important not to confuse the people here who take themselves way too seriously
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:13 PM
Feb 2016

with any actual campaign apparati.

I don't need any hectoring to support the nominee, since that's what I do always anyway. If people start sounding too much like the adults on "Peanuts" I just tune them out. I'll vote for HRC if she's nominated- I've assumed from the getgo she probably would be- and how much additional enthusiasm I put into the endeavour will depend on a multitude of factors, not the least being some improvements not just in the style of her campaign but also the substance.

Beyond that, I've said repeatedly the DNC in particular doesn't get another fucking dime from me as long as it is run by someone who allies herself with the likes of Sheldon Adelson to send sick people to prison for using medical marijuana.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
37. As I told someone once "There's two things I don't respond well to"
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:15 PM
Feb 2016

"What's that?"
"Threats and stupidity. And you're guilty of both"

The DNC is coming close to that line.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
41. The constant beratement of Sanders supporters to vote for Clinton
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:29 PM
Feb 2016

if she wins the GE doesn't help, and it's really not the people here that are the issue, it's just a way to silence any opposition. The problem is all the Sanders supporters out in the country who won't, and I see no attempt to reach a hand out to them. They don't have the same level of interest that we do here, so if their guy doesn't win, they might just stay home.

If Clinton looses it is squarely on her shoulders for a poor campaign.

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
78. It seems like that's how Hillary supporters see Bernie supporters as
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:45 PM
Feb 2016

The progressives and the liberals especially, as spoiled children wanting too much.

SylviaD

(721 posts)
71. The main issue as I see it is that many Bernie supporters aren't even Democrats..
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

...some even say they do not support the Democratic party.

This makes it an uncomfortable situation as this is Democratic Underground not socialist underground.

Or am I incorrect here that despite our differences we are supposed to show basic respect for all Democrats especially should they get the nomination?

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
76. I've voted straight-ticket Dem. party candidates since 1980
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

That was the first election where I was old enough to vote. I've also donated money in the past (when I was in a better financial state) and volunteered. So don't you DARE try to say I haven't been a good Democrat for the last 35+ years.

However, if HRC gets the nomination by way of superdelegates overturning the will of the popular vote, I WILL be leaving the Democratic party (and will change my status officially to "unaffiliated&quot and will either be writing in Bernie's name or voting Green party. Which one that turns out to be will depend on whether a movement arises to write-in Bernie's name.

So, as of this date, I've been a loyal Democrat for over 35 years. However, that may change this year. Don't think I'm the only one.

Go ahead, DNC, give HRC the nomination by going against "We the People" and watch a major exodus of people from the Democratic Party.

I am NOT the only one.

PS: At that point, I will take an indefinite leave of absence from DU because I know that to promote anyone other than the Dem. candidate after the primaries is against TOS.

SylviaD

(721 posts)
77. Well I didn't mean people like you, Autumn Colors!
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:44 PM
Feb 2016

I meant the new people who have joined just to support Bernie's bid for the nomination.

Some of them are fairly hostile to the Democratic party to be frank. It's Bernie Sanders or no-one for them, they will never even consider voting for Hillary or any other long time Democrat.

And some of them are hostile here on the forums as well.

 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
96. Have you ever stopped to think
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:52 AM
Feb 2016

That the Democratic party hasn't done much for them and that's why they're not very loyal?

If the Democrats would fight Republicans as hard as they fight their own left, then we wouldn't need a Bernie Sanders political revolution.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
83. It is as much socialist underground
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:52 PM
Feb 2016

as capitalist underground.

I am a socialist, as I believe economic equality is the morally just way to manage an economy.

I am also a democrat, as I believe the people should all have an equal voice in the rules that apply to our society.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
73. I would have to say that many Bernie supporters
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:29 PM
Feb 2016

speak to Hillary supporters in a way that is not likely to motivate them either. How do they expect to convince me to change from Hillary to Bernie (and my primary is a couple months away) with these types of posts? Yours especially. All that does it show me you think you are superior, - I have to motive you to vote. I'm going to vote without having to have you motivate me.

SylviaD

(721 posts)
75. Exactly!
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:30 PM
Feb 2016

If Bernie wins the nomination, I will vote for him!

Why is this so hard for Bernie supporters to do likewise.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
92. Bernie supporters are voting on issues.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:42 PM
Feb 2016

As far as issues go, Bernie and Hillary are not interchangeable.

I'm voting for the person who will push for Medicare for all, a $15 minimum wage, and free public college.

Bernie is fighting against the TPP. Hillary praised it 45 times.

LuvLoogie

(7,022 posts)
74. Why should you get the keys to the family sedan
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:29 PM
Feb 2016

when you won't even cut a few lawns for bus fare? I cannot help with some of The Revolution's unresolved mother issues, but there's dinner waiting on the table when you're done sulking.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
81. This is going to be a thread record for alerts!
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:50 PM
Feb 2016

On Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:15 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I have decided that from now on,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1365551

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calling all Clinton supporters "fascists" is something that trolls, not Democrats or sane people, do. But, then again, posts comparing Clinton to Adolf Hitler have been endorsed by DU juries, so maybe the trolls have taken over the site.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:23 PM, and the Jury voted 5-2 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I'm a Bernie guy, but that is going a bit too far. One day we will all have to rally around one of them. Calling the supporters fascists is dumb. Now calling Hillary, herself, a fascism enabler........
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Sorry, but I'm afraid a spade is a spade
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

.........

edit: It somehow omitted the actual offending text. He/she said they would be now calling Hillary supporters, Hillary-Fascists

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
89. And holding one's breath is childish.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:25 PM
Feb 2016

How about we all act like adults, don't make 5th grade taunts (my dad can beat you dad), vote your preference in the primary/caucus, and agreed to vote for the Democratic nominee, whoever that turns out to be.

This spoiled brat/TeaParty "I'm going to take the ball and go home" crap is childish.









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Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
93. GDP isnt about motivating people, silly! Its about insulting them!
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:45 PM
Feb 2016

Or maybe, for the people with no other hobbies, grudge match settling of scores from some stupid fight in the meta forum from 4 years ago.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
98. Is that what they are doing? I expected being wooed by her natural warmth and good humor.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:04 AM
Feb 2016

Not really. She is a warmonger who is dead inside.
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