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Recoverin_Republican

(218 posts)
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:14 PM Mar 2016

Experts Agree Clinton Indictment "chatter is just plain ridiculous"

http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/02/01/experts-push-back-against-right-wing-media-clai/208297


TPM's Josh Marshall: Experts Agree Clinton Indictment "Chatter Is Just Plain Ridiculous." As reported by Talking Points Memo editor, Josh Marshall, law professors and former federal prosecutors have told him "to a person" that the chances of an indictment are a "far-fetched" idea and that "on the possibility of an indictment, most of this chatter is just plain ridiculous -- a mix of ignorance and tendentiousness":


[div style="background:#ccccee;border:1px solid #000000;" class="excerpt"] As a legal matter, the chances of Hillary Clinton facing any kind of indictment are very, very low.

Start with the fact that as far as we know, she is not actually even being investigated for anything, let alone facing a looming indictment. The simple facts, as we know them, just don't put her in line for an indictment. The first reason is the facts, which rest heavily on intent and reckless negligence. The second is tradition and DOJ regulations which make professional prosecutors very leery of issuing indictments that might be perceived or in fact influence an election. This was my thinking. But as the press coverage has become increasingly heated, I started trying to figure out if there was something I was missing - some fact I didn't know, some blindspot in my perception. So I've spoken to a number of law profs and former federal prosecutors - based on the facts we know now even from the most aggressive reporting. Not like, is this theoretically possible? Not, what the penalties would be if it happened. But is an indictment at all likely or is this whole idea very far-fetched. To a person, very far-fetched.

So why the press coverage? I think it's a combination of reasons. The most irreducible and perhaps most significant is simply prestige reporter derp and general ignorance of the legal system. Second is journalists' perennial inability to resist a process story. And third, let's be honest, wingnut page views. (TPM, 2/1/15)


ABC News: "There Doesn't Seem To Be A Legitimate Basis For Any Sort Of Criminal Charge Against Her." In a February 1 article, ABC News' legal analyst Dan Abrams debunked media outlets hyping the claim that Clinton will be indicted over her private server usage. Abrams added that "there is no evidence - not suppositions or partisan allegations but actual evidence - that Clinton knew that using a private email server was criminal or even improper at the time":

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Experts Agree Clinton Indictment "chatter is just plain ridiculous" (Original Post) Recoverin_Republican Mar 2016 OP
I am not willing to bet the Republic on it. seaotter Mar 2016 #1
Besides her decades of philanthropy and fighting global poverty and AIDS. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #6
and of course 'experts' are never wrong. roguevalley Mar 2016 #15
I think this is what is called "whistling past the graveyard." The truth is, they are scared. reformist2 Mar 2016 #17
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2016 #2
This whole thing really is stupid. It reminds me of the endless Benghazi accusations. nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #3
If Hillary wins the nomination... smiley Mar 2016 #9
Right wingers will never leave her alone, they lie and spread propaganda. Actor May 2016 #27
I will not support a corrupt candidate. smiley May 2016 #29
Yeah, I heard that before. I dont know if I have ever had the choice of voting for one who Actor May 2016 #30
You have a chance in Bernie. smiley May 2016 #31
My mission is to vote for Bernie then whoever wins the nomination. not my first rodeo Actor May 2016 #32
Glad to hear. smiley May 2016 #34
Odd how none of these experts are cited in the article tk2kewl Mar 2016 #4
It is a another non scandal which will end as non scandals should end. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #5
This email says otherwise NWCorona Mar 2016 #7
I can hear the howls now. wyldwolf Mar 2016 #8
Absurd OP! FACT: the FBI is investigating. The FBI investigates potential felonies with Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #10
So, the.100 FBI agents assigned to this are just doing it for fun? AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #11
"a mix of ignorance and tendentiousness"- the new signature brew in GDP. bettyellen Mar 2016 #12
Gotta love Josh Marshall Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #13
This OP source is from an article from over a month ago angrychair Mar 2016 #14
I love Obama and will be pissed if HRC brings any scandal to his admin Arazi Mar 2016 #16
If Hillary gets to the White House..I see impeachment in her future... tokenlib Mar 2016 #18
that's why DoJ gave the staffer who set up her email immunity, guess it was a quiet day for them? azurnoir Mar 2016 #19
K&R mcar Mar 2016 #20
the GOP and BErnie supporters just can't let a good pseudo-scandal die! LOL!! Bill USA Mar 2016 #21
more repetition of the debunked hysterical theory.... Recoverin_Republican May 2016 #22
the Indictment fans are a lot like the Birther Bugs..."scritch, scritch, scritch"..LOL Bill USA May 2016 #23
another example of parroting a threadbare RW Big Lie - the Republicans love repeating it Bill USA May 2016 #24
here's another Bill USA May 2016 #25
Why does this February piece keep getting posted? pmorlan1 May 2016 #26
Someone tell the BS supporters that all their hopes of taking hillary down are on fire... dubyadiprecession May 2016 #28
"she is not actually even being investigated for anything' Botany May 2016 #33
Security review - hahaha lol 840high May 2016 #35
Her email account had a server Botany May 2016 #36
FBI said it's an investigation. Who 840high May 2016 #37
This is white water 2.0 Botany May 2016 #38
 

seaotter

(576 posts)
1. I am not willing to bet the Republic on it.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:16 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary should pull out f or the good of the nation. But, alas, she does not care about anything but her own ego and income stream.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
6. Besides her decades of philanthropy and fighting global poverty and AIDS.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:26 PM
Mar 2016

Meanwhile, on the other end, the-career-politician-running-for-prez has little accomplishments to show for except decades of govt salary.

Actor

(626 posts)
27. Right wingers will never leave her alone, they lie and spread propaganda.
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:08 PM
May 2016

That is no reason to be afraid of them, as long as we ALL show up and vote for the nominee, we will be fine.

Actor

(626 posts)
30. Yeah, I heard that before. I dont know if I have ever had the choice of voting for one who
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:40 PM
May 2016

isnt to one degree or another.

But I understand the process

Actor

(626 posts)
32. My mission is to vote for Bernie then whoever wins the nomination. not my first rodeo
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:45 PM
May 2016

To never not only vote for a republican but to always, with every fiber of my being, work against them

smiley

(1,432 posts)
34. Glad to hear.
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:55 PM
May 2016

I can't in good conscience once again muster the energy to vote for a candidate I don't trust, and that I don't believe has my best interest in mind. I have no problem returning to a registered Indy.

This primary election has zero credibility as far as democracy is concerned IMO. If the establishment wants Hillary, they'll do whatever it takes to make it happen in the GE too. Democracy isn't even an issue anymore. It's kabuki theater. Plain and simple.




Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
10. Absurd OP! FACT: the FBI is investigating. The FBI investigates potential felonies with
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:37 PM
Mar 2016

potential felons as suspects. Guess who is a potential felon in this case?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
12. "a mix of ignorance and tendentiousness"- the new signature brew in GDP.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:41 PM
Mar 2016

But really just another flavor of Kool Aide.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
14. This OP source is from an article from over a month ago
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 08:50 PM
Mar 2016

Which mean it was built and written based on information from well over a month ago.

These articles say very different things and this is not going away:

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/271387-fbi-director-i-am-closely-involved-with-clinton-email-investigation

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/271194-final-batch-of-clinton-emails-released

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0VW2DG

http://www.npr.org/2016/02/27/468366616/investigation-into-clinton-emails-continues

Why is she so willing to drag the Democratic Party through this, especially if she thinks she will be the nominee? Is it worth it? Why not address it head on and clear the board before running for office? Why make your entire potential time in office about you and your legal problems???

tokenlib

(4,186 posts)
18. If Hillary gets to the White House..I see impeachment in her future...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:29 AM
Mar 2016

The GOP went after Bill on less...

Obama's people wouldn't allow an indictment...

Botany

(70,516 posts)
38. This is white water 2.0
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:54 PM
May 2016

Last edited Fri May 20, 2016, 08:04 AM - Edit history (1)

But please keep doing the republicans work for them.

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