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Gallop poll today... (Original Post) cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 OP
Obama leads in RV, trails in LV nt geek tragedy Oct 2012 #1
I'm Hoping The RV-LV Gap Closes To The Historical Norm Of Two DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #5
Above all, Obama has to project optimism and confidence on Tuesday. geek tragedy Oct 2012 #18
yea mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #7
Mitt's not going to win, no matter how much you'd like that. Sorry Repigs! MjolnirTime Oct 2012 #11
Likely Voters is manufactured by pollsters, based on OLD models. nt progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #36
Romney has hit bottom Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #2
Do you mean he reached his peak? Bottom to me means he won't go lower. AlinPA Oct 2012 #20
Bottoms up, perhaps? Generic Brad Oct 2012 #27
LOL. Er, I meant hit his peak. See Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #28
LV romney +2 no change mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #3
That's what you think. MjolnirTime Oct 2012 #9
Where are the trolls to tell us how bad this is? Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #4
I Think One Is In This Thread DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #6
It doesn't take a troll... it IS bad news. FBaggins Oct 2012 #22
Great, now if only the popular vote mattered. Savannahmann Oct 2012 #8
It hasn't been factored in yet, by Monday you will see that move also in our direction /nt still_one Oct 2012 #13
As long as Nevada, Iowa and Ohio stay blue, let Romney win the popular vote Democratopia Oct 2012 #14
This. RedSpartan Oct 2012 #15
It is just starting wait till Monday, and then wait until after Tuesday. The more people find out still_one Oct 2012 #10
Seems to have leveled off on Romney momentum. I think.. mvd Oct 2012 #12
I agree with you..... RichGirl Oct 2012 #32
I'm With Savanna ModLibCentrist Oct 2012 #16
You are right. This is a very serious situation. Everything depends on the debates. Democratopia Oct 2012 #17
I think everything depends on getting out the vote, and voter involvement and not on the debates. Fringe Oct 2012 #19
Second.... Fringe Oct 2012 #21
Agree lalalu Oct 2012 #35
In addition to getting out the vote, don't forget about election frauds. The Repubs. are making it Cal33 Oct 2012 #23
Yes, the media want you to to believe that debates matter Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #25
They were liars in 2008 and they are still liars lalalu Oct 2012 #33
Debates are important....but I think Romney going down.... RichGirl Oct 2012 #34
Ridiculous to think oswaldactedalone Oct 2012 #30
GOTV. we're gonna win this! Pokoyo Oct 2012 #24
You are writing a positive, so put it in the title headline. graham4anything Oct 2012 #26
Let Romney win the popular vote, all that matters is electoral college votes. Democratopia Oct 2012 #29
Romney is not going to win either. ProSense Oct 2012 #31
'The President's numbers are going up in every state, blue and red.' TroyD Oct 2012 #38
Frankly, I doubt their LV model and sampling JackN415 Oct 2012 #37

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
2. Romney has hit bottom
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:10 PM
Oct 2012

The GOP Florida clusterf*ck yesterday created the illusion of him being viable because he ahs to get FL just to stay in the game. The GOP went full bore this week to make their guy seem viable and the media is all in because of ratings and Mitt-love. No Senate seats have been jeapardized.

America wants Obama to close.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
22. It doesn't take a troll... it IS bad news.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:00 PM
Oct 2012

This is a seven-day rolling average. Today's poll represents last night's polling (the first full day after the VP debate) replacing the data from last Friday (thought to be Romney's single best day).

If the needle didn't move appreciably (and some movement can be hidden in rounding)... then we have a problem. Yesterday today were supposed to be the days that proved that romney's bounce was really just a fading blip.

It isn't "call your friends in Europe and ask if you can move in with them in January" bad... it's just worrisome.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
8. Great, now if only the popular vote mattered.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:12 PM
Oct 2012
Real Clear Politics has the President up by a lousy twenty electoral votes. 201 to 181. The state polling isn't looking good, and we need to get serious about that instead of trying to make ourselves feel better about where we are.

still_one

(92,190 posts)
10. It is just starting wait till Monday, and then wait until after Tuesday. The more people find out
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:14 PM
Oct 2012

about what the republicans stand for the better it will get


mvd

(65,173 posts)
12. Seems to have leveled off on Romney momentum. I think..
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:14 PM
Oct 2012

Obama will make gains the next couple days, and for sure will take the lead with a better debate.

 

ModLibCentrist

(28 posts)
16. I'm With Savanna
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:19 PM
Oct 2012

Lets quit telling ourselves everything will be ok and start taking these gains seriously. I'd say that Gallup was one of the worst pollers in the 08 final results but that would probably incite further attacks of me being a troll.

Fringe

(175 posts)
19. I think everything depends on getting out the vote, and voter involvement and not on the debates.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:49 PM
Oct 2012

First, I think Romney is losing his bounce, many of the polls that had Romney ahead after the debate are down to 1 or tied.

Also, keep in mind, Gallup and Rasmussen have been like twins during most of this year, showing Obama with lower numbers even while Reuters, Pew and other posters had much higher numbers, and I personally think Rasmussen is pure trash.

They tend to play with their numbers until close to election day except in states like Indiana, Florida, and Ohio, they lied right up to the very end in 2008.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/oh/ohio_mccain_vs_obama-400.html

Click on boxes to the right of the page to reveal poll numbers for each state in 2008

Second.......


Fringe

(175 posts)
21. Second....
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:54 PM
Oct 2012
Now back to what matters! What matters is people getting involved! That is what made Obama's campaign in 2008

If you can't volunteer the traditional way,

Get on Forums like yahoo and Youtube and make comments and sway opinion that is what the right is doing. Instead of sleeping, we ALL need to get busy.
 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
23. In addition to getting out the vote, don't forget about election frauds. The Repubs. are making it
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:10 PM
Oct 2012

nation-wide. It will be massive!

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
25. Yes, the media want you to to believe that debates matter
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:11 PM
Oct 2012

brainwashing. See how the GOP media set up the 1st debate?

 

lalalu

(1,663 posts)
33. They were liars in 2008 and they are still liars
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:27 PM
Oct 2012

Also, my understanding is they have teamed with Strategic which is another bunch of liars.

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
34. Debates are important....but I think Romney going down....
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:27 PM
Oct 2012

Has more to do with his lying and unexplained plans than it does with any debate.

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
30. Ridiculous to think
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:22 PM
Oct 2012

that the debates don't matter. If Obama chokes like he did the first time, it's over. He tried to be positive while pointing out no Robme negatives and got defined as weak. Now, he has to come on strong, call Robme out for his flip-flops, and explain why Robme's policies are a disaster.

If he fails to do this, then he has let progressives and America down.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
31. Romney is not going to win either.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:24 PM
Oct 2012

The President's numbers are going up in every state, blue and red.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
38. 'The President's numbers are going up in every state, blue and red.'
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 04:00 PM
Oct 2012

Isn't it more accurate to say they are going up in some and down in others?

 

JackN415

(924 posts)
37. Frankly, I doubt their LV model and sampling
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 01:52 PM
Oct 2012

I personally chatted with a few who rarely vote, or are first-time voters. They do plan to vote, but unlikely to be accounted as LV. It doesn't take much, just a few percent error to swing the result.

But who cares? GOTV is the ultimate deciding factor. Why worry about something dubious and we have no control?

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