HRC has essentially been running for president since 1992.

[Ken Burch]

Bernie had never even considered running until probably at least 2014. His campaign was in many respects a last-minute effort.

Any shortcomings in relationship-building anywhere are simply a result of that timetable.

The Sanders campaign never worked from the assumption that we didn't NEED POC. Nobody running for president on the Democratic ticket would think that.

It's just that this campaign got a very late start, and essentially HAD to come into existence because, once Warren ruled herself out, we were looking at a race in which no progressive candidates were going to seek the Democratic presidential nomination at all. We were looking at a primary campaign that would have been utterly meaningless, in which nothing would have been said and no commitments to any meaningful program of change would have been offered.

As a result, when it started, Bernie didn't have national relationships built with any group or any community.

So can we please put to rest this bogus idea that the Sanders campaign didn't care about POC and somehow intentionally excluded POC?

Any shortcomings on that were nothing but inadvertent oversights...all of which the campaign has worked tirelessly to correct from day one.

[brooklynite]

1. I see...Sanders was ablt to step in on Day 1 with an economic inequality message...

...which he repeated over and over and over.

But he didn't have the time to develop a racial justice message...until BLM called him out?

[Kip Humphrey]

2. I met Hillary in 1970. She told me she intended to be the first woman president. Given the

size of her entourage back then, I believed she had every intention in that regard.

[Raster]

4. I have said before, she and Bill hatched this gig up years ago: he would go first...

...and pave the way, she would follow. She really does believe it is her turn!

[Kip Humphrey]

6. AND her purpose.

[Raster]

3. There is no "essentially" to it. As soon as The Big O kicked her to the curb...

...she had her "Tara" moment and vowed to come back fightin'... and wearin' curtains...

[Kip Humphrey]

10. Curtains or a Golden Sack?

[Raster]

13. well, she is rubbing up to Blankenstein...

..."just doing God's work"

[redstateblues]

11. Running for President is not a spur of the moment thing

Bernie was unprepared. He had no allies, no down ballot democratic socialists, no relationships with the base. I admire Bernie but it takes more than just changing from socialist to democratic socialist to garner the kind of numbers he needs. Hopefully he will continue his quest. He is a good man.

[Eric J in MN]

19. Bernie Sanders did Thom Hartmann's national radio show for years.

That gave him one "relationship with the base."

Ideally, he'd have done more national outreach before announcing his presidential candidacy.

[Smarmie Doofus]

5. I wouldn't bother. Even THEY don't believe it.

>>>So can we please put to rest this bogus idea that the Sanders campaign didn't care about POC and somehow intentionally excluded POC? >>>

[msongs]

7. gee obama told people he would be prez one day when he was in high school. bad obama nt

[redstateblues]

8. A revolution with no national relationships

Is not a revolution. He has no significant national allies - no down ballot democratic socialists. I like Bernie and I admire him in many ways. If Bernie had spent years building toward this it might have worked. If he somehow won his term would be plagued by the same things that have plagued his campaign. Kind of spur of the moment. It will be interesting to see if he continues his quest if he doesn't win the nomination. Hopefully he will.

[RobertEarl]

12. Oh he will win

We will see to it.

He has national relationships now. And by virtue of his honesty and integrity are growing stronger everyday.

It would take two years of this before he could match the Clinton's national reach.

The campaign is ;plagued' only by lack of understanding and knowledge of who Bernie is. That is changing daily.

Were he given a level playing field and not beat down by the press and the establishment, Clinton would be retiring right about now.

[LuvLoogie]

9. Hillary Clinton has built these relationships over decades

Because she is gregarious and was ever increasing her range and activity.

Bernie has been camped out in Vermont.

That's fine, but if you haven't ventured out of Vermont for 30 years or so, you probably wouldn't have met as many people as someone who thinks and acts outward.

[RobertEarl]

14. H has Bill to thank for 80% of her fame

Don't kid yourself.

[LuvLoogie]

16. Would Bill Clinton have become President

had he never met Hillary Rodham?

[RobertEarl]

17. Who knows?

[Raster]

15. ...built these covens... er, relationships... over decades...

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...not to mention many, many $250,000 checks.

[LuvLoogie]

18. Yep. Covens, money and gathering clouds...

[MisterP]

20. someone's on alert timeout now

Accusing a female Democratic candidate of being witch ("covens&quot is over-the-top and inappropriate.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:33 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I was going to hide it but after thinking of other names or terms being thrown around, like BernieBros etc I opted to leave it.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: "coven" is not a hideable term
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: ...really? FFS.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Definition of coven can mean 'a secret or close-knit group of associates'. Furthermore, there were male witches.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

[Raster]

21. coven can mean 'a secret or close-knit group of associates'

my post stands as-is.
but, thank you.

[Hatchling]

22. Ifi were the alerting kind and i'm not

I would have complained that you malign those of us in covens and who are pagans and witches.

[Raster]

23. let's just say I am to the Pagan side myself...

...and I see nothing wrong with my usage, which implies NOTHING OF RELIGION OR FAITH:

cov·en
ˈkəvən/Submit
noun
a group or gathering of witches who meet regularly. (NOT THIS DEFINITION)

-derogatory
a secret or close-knit group of associates. (THIS DEFINITION)
"covens of militants within the party"