Bernie Will Get At Least 90% of the Black vote ....

[imagine2015]

in the general election as the Democratic party candidate for President.

Why would anyone think he would have a problem in getting massive support among Black people and Latinos to defeat Trump or any other racist Republican candidate?

[onehandle]

1. Doesn't help him in the current election. nt

[imagine2015]

3. The suggestion seems to be that Bernie can't win a huge Black turnout in the General Election ....

if he wins the nomination based on primary turnout in the hardcore Republican south.

Clinton did very well among southern Black voters but I don't think she will do as well in the West and North and the Republican candidate will win the southern states in the general election.

Black turnout will not enable her to win the south. Even President Obama with a huge black turnout lost most of the south in 2008.

[Lizzie Poppet]

10. But most who DID turn out would vote for him.

Would the decreased black turnout for Bernie be larger than the increased young voter turnout? Open question...

I have little doubt that a Hillary candidacy would create a larger turnout among Republicans. A lot of Republicans don't like Trump, but I guaran-fucking-tee that they hate Hillary a lot more.

[BreakfastClub]

15. He can't win the democratic primary without the AA vote, so what the point of this? nt

[bravenak]

2. He would need to win a primary...

[imagine2015]

4. He's won 5.

[bravenak]

5. He won five states.

She won more. Plus she won more DELEGATES. Just add it up.

[bvf]

13. Congratulations on your rediscovery

of punctuation.

[bravenak]

14. No need i plan on not using any anymore

[KingFlorez]

6. He has to win the delegates necessary first in order to be the nominee

Sanders supporters are considering him the nominee, but the process is still ongoing. Remember that.

[malokvale77]

7. It's a dumb argument when you think about it.

The real question should be, how many of the working class and poor can Hillary get. I'm guessing not many.

[onenote]

12. So working class and poor don't care about the rights of racial and religious minorities, gays, etc.

All the groups that are threatened by Trump? If they do, they'll come out for Clinton.

[DCBob]

8. If they show up.

[Gothmog]

9. Sanders dislike of President Obama will cause many AA voters to stay home

Sanders attacks on President Obama are not playing well with African American voters. Many Democratic voters including many African American voters view President Obama very differently than Sanders and his supportes http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-sanders-obama_us_56aa378de4b05e4e3703753a?utm_hp_ref=politics

But lurking behind this argument about the future is a dispute that's really about the past. It’s a debate over what Obama accomplished in office -- in particular, how significant those accomplishments really are. And it's been simmering on the left for most of the last seven years.

On one side of this divide are activists and intellectuals who are ambivalent, disappointed or flat-out frustrated with what Obama has gotten done. They acknowledge what they consider modest achievements -- like helping some of the uninsured and preventing the Great Recession from becoming another Great Depression. But they are convinced that the president could have accomplished much more if only he’d fought harder for his agenda and been less quick to compromise.

They dwell on the opportunities missed, like the lack of a public option in health care reform or the failure to break up the big banks. They want those things now -- and more. In Sanders, they are hearing a candidate who thinks the same way.

On the other side are partisans and thinkers who consider Obama's achievements substantial, even historic. They acknowledge that his victories were partial and his legislation flawed. This group recognizes that there are still millions of people struggling to find good jobs or pay their medical bills, and that the planet is still on a path to catastrophically high temperatures. But they see in the last seven years major advances in the liberal crusade to bolster economic security for the poor and middle class. They think the progress on climate change is real, and likely to beget more in the future.

It seems that many of the Sanders supporters hold a different view of President Obama which is also a leading reason why Sanders is not exciting many African American voters. Again, it may be difficult for Sanders to appeal to African American voters when one of the premises of his campaign is that Sanders does not think that President Obama is a progressive or a good POTUS. Sanders should not count of these voters showing up for the general election based on his positions of President Obama

[onenote]

11. So why won't Clinton get close to the same of the Sanders' vote

Do Sanders supporters really not care if Trump or any other racist repub gets elected?

I voted for Sanders and I can assure you that I will crawl over nails to vote for Clinton if she's the nominee because to do otherwise would be to an enabler with respect to the election of a racist, misogynist Mussolini wannabe.

Yet, there are Sanders supporters here who proclaim that there is no difference between Clinton and Trump.