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Dukakis Not Feeling The Bern (Original Post) bigtree Mar 2016 OP
Has he shared w. us whom he supports? nt Smarmie Doofus Mar 2016 #1
Was he sitting in a Tank when he said it? Sky Masterson Mar 2016 #2
That made me laugh out loud! Thank you, it was a tough morning. n/t SylviaD Mar 2016 #3
ha! bigtree Mar 2016 #4
So -the Sanders camp thinks that Michigan is their "crown jewel" --a must win..... riversedge Mar 2016 #5
Michigan Democratic Primary: Clinton 61% - Sanders 33% + 28 Clinton riversedge Mar 2016 #6
if they can't make it there... bigtree Mar 2016 #8
oh they will invent something else or find something from a RW site to bring riversedge Mar 2016 #10
538 gives here a 98% chance of winning - a virtual tie DrDan Mar 2016 #19
This statement is a perfect example of the obscurantism displayed by our opponents DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #7
what can they really say? bigtree Mar 2016 #9
That sentence by Weaver makes no sense whatsoever!! riversedge Mar 2016 #11
He is referring to two isolated polls from two weeks ago, hence my charge of obscurantism. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #12
Pretzel logic! MoonRiver Mar 2016 #15
#BernieMath JaneyVee Mar 2016 #16
"berniemath" - yes it is - the same logic was used a few days back by a BS-supporter/poster DrDan Mar 2016 #20
Gee I worked hard while he screwed the pooch and delivered GW Bush to America. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #13
No offense to Mike Dukakis DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #14
he's just weighing in on his state bigtree Mar 2016 #17
I'm not saying he's "unreasonable" DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #22
Good point Michael. DCBob Mar 2016 #18
An interesting history of his acceptance speech at the 88 convention Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #21
this shows what a farce all of that nonsense is bigtree Mar 2016 #24
What does he know about winning? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #23

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
5. So -the Sanders camp thinks that Michigan is their "crown jewel" --a must win.....
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:33 AM
Mar 2016

Isn't Hillary ahead in the recent polls??



.....While Sanders won’t exclusively camp out there for the next week, Michigan — which votes on March 8 — has long been the crown jewel in his calendar for this month. A delegate-rich and racially diverse target that’s hosting a Democratic debate on Sunday, the organized labor-heavy state provides Sanders with a chance to chip at Clinton’s establishment support — even though the RealClearPolitics polling average has her up by 20 points there.

“Michigan is such an important state because it offers such a sharp contrast between the two candidates on such an important issue — about whether you stood with working families or whether you chose to side with corporate interests who are shipping jobs overseas,” Weaver explained, adding that Sanders’ economic message could appeal to black voters living in cities like Detroit and Flint. “The African-American middle class in Michigan has been destroyed by the job-crushing trade deals that Secretary Clinton has consistently supported over the years. And if you look at what’s going on with the schools, the dilapidated schools of Detroit, and funding problems in places like Flint, Michigan, that is all directly tied to her economic policies. So she’s going to have to bear her responsibility for her role over the last 20 years in decimating the economy in Michigan, including the African-American middle class, which was once the pride of this country."

And once Michigan votes, that message will spread, Weaver projected, outlining what some Sanders operatives describe as the best-case scenario: wins in the heavily-white caucus states of Nebraska, Kansas, and Maine in the coming days, followed by a strong performance in Michigan and other big industrial states.


“We’re going to do very well in Pennsylvania, a place where his message on trade is going to do extremely well. Western Pennsylvania is a place where, again, another place that’s been decimated by Hillary Clinton’s failed economic policies,” said Weaver. “The auto industry in Ohio? Decimated by Hillary Clinton’s economic policies. Michigan? Auto industry and the rest of the industrial capacity in Michigan, destroyed by Hillary Clinton’s economic policies. Illinois has lost tens of thousands of jobs due to Hillary Clinton’s economic policies. So I think she’s going to have to answer, as we go into the industrial Midwest, why she has not stood with working families and middle class people. Why she has instead stood with corporate interests who have shipped our jobs overseas and are now funding our campaign."....................

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernie-sanders-super-tuesday-response-220127#ixzz41qIZxcnU


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/bernie-sanders-super-tuesday-response-220127#ixzz41qID9hj0

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
6. Michigan Democratic Primary: Clinton 61% - Sanders 33% + 28 Clinton
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:38 AM
Mar 2016

yes, Hillary is ahead in the polls in Michigan.


Michigan Democratic Primary: Clinton 61% - Sanders 33% + 28 Clinton
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Mitchell-FOX_2_Detroit_MI_Poll_DEM_3-2-16.pdf

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
10. oh they will invent something else or find something from a RW site to bring
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:52 AM
Mar 2016

over here to DU. sickening.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
7. This statement is a perfect example of the obscurantism displayed by our opponents
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:39 AM
Mar 2016

This statement from the article is a perfect example of the obscurantism displayed by our opponents:



“If you look at national polls that show us even, if we’re down in the south that means we’re up in other places."

-Jeff Weaver



http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary


Sir, you are not even in national polling...

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
9. what can they really say?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:46 AM
Mar 2016
Gabriel Debenedetti ‏@gdebenedetti 23h23 hours ago

BURLINGTON, VT — "There was a great diversity in the states we won last night," says @BernieSanders manager Weaver.


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. He is referring to two isolated polls from two weeks ago, hence my charge of obscurantism.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 08:57 AM
Mar 2016

Also, his suggestion that the map gets better for them is a chimera, it doesn't.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
20. "berniemath" - yes it is - the same logic was used a few days back by a BS-supporter/poster
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:02 AM
Mar 2016

down nationally, but big losses in the south absolutely has to mean they are up everywhere else

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. Gee I worked hard while he screwed the pooch and delivered GW Bush to America.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 09:12 AM
Mar 2016

Dukakis lost the popular vote by almost 8% and only carried 10 States.

I have an odd habit, I take election advice from those who win elections, not those who lose. Same in other areas, I take the advice of those who thrive.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
22. I'm not saying he's "unreasonable"
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:34 AM
Mar 2016

I'm saying not one single person in America was waiting to hear from Michael Dukakis.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
21. An interesting history of his acceptance speech at the 88 convention
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:08 AM
Mar 2016

Which by the way was a terrific speech

Most the nation didn't hear it because Bill Clinton spoke twice as long as he was supposed to right before Dukakis was to speak and that caused the TV coverage to go pass the late night news hour.


Eventually, the broadcast networks began cutting away from his speech, with commentators noting the crowd’s complete lack of interest. The lowlight came when Clinton uttered the words “In closing,” prompting a spontaneous round of sarcastic cheers from the audience.

http://www.salon.com/2012/07/30/when_bill_clinton_died_on_stage/


Well Bill was the best bud with George Bush Sr. ....... who was running against Dukakis







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