2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumUnited Farm Workers endorse Hillary Clinton
Hillary Clinton is receiving the endorsement of the United Farm Workers, the largest farmworkers union in the country.
The union, active in 10 states, has a largely Latino membership, a key voting bloc for Clinton in both the primary and general elections. She received their endorsement over then-Illinois Sen. Barack Obama in the 2008 primary.
United Farm Workers President Arturo S. Rodriguez says the group spent a year discussing the race and recently interviewed Clinton for an hour on her positions.
Clinton, says Rodriguez in a statement, is "the strong, most respectful leader our country needs now."
"Hillary Clinton has the strong resolve needed to make change happen," he says. "And she is the best equipped to defeat the nativist, hateful forces of the current Republican front-runner."
Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article63753972.html#storylink=cpy
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Locating children to get them education and health care, she cares.
tom_kelly
(960 posts)I Duck Duck Go'd it and came up with nothing. Thank you.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)In the summer of 1970 she was awarded a grant to work at Marian Wright Edelman's Washington Research Project, where she was assigned to Senator Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migratory Labor. There she researched migrant workers' problems in housing, sanitation, health and education.[41] Edelman later became a significant mentor.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton
This information was found in the section
Yale Law School and postgraduate studies
Maybe duck duck did not look to Wikipedia for information.
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tom_kelly
(960 posts)It mentions she "researched the problems of migrant workers for Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migrant Labor."
Similar to what you found on Wiki.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,986 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)Right or wrong, at least that is a legitimate concern to base an endorsement on.
As far as thinking that Clinton would be more likely to make change happen, I will have to respectfully disagree. I worry that Clinton will veer to the right on immigration once she is in office. I hope I am wrong.
I hope the leaders in the Union can see through all of the distortions that Clinton and her supporters, including Huerta (sadly), have been pushing about Sanders in relation to immigration issues. The United Farm Workers should be very sympathetic to Sanders' concerns about the guest worker programs in the 2007 immigration reform bill, since the United Farm Workers fought like hell against the bracero guest worker program.
Sanders has the best record on labor issues concerning farmworkers. He was fighting for the rights of farmworkers in Florida in 2008, for example, when Clinton was busy criticizing Obama for being too pro-gun-control.
ismnotwasm
(41,986 posts)And they were careful, they thought it out and made their choice. They didn't have to make one at all.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)bigtree
(85,996 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)In case of the first: yawn. More status quo.
In case of the second: I'd congratulate her on winning such an important popular endorsement.
ismnotwasm
(41,986 posts)Ok
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)and waiting.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Do you think we will get the response before, or after Clinton releases her Goldmann Sachs transcripts?
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)http://www.ufw.org/_board.php?mode=view&b_code=news_press&b_no=17846&page=1&field=&key=&n=1159
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Sanders people won't accept that not everyone wants their candidate.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)however untenable the status quo has become.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)It is just the opposite. . Clinton supporters have a hard time accepting that the people don't like their candidate. The only people who endorse her are from the establishment, not the people.
In EVERY poll, her likeability is among the lowest and also her trustworthiness too. Whereas Bernie is the HIGHEST with the people. That is why she has to get her endorsements from the "management" and not the "people".
You guys just can't handle that truth.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Beyond silly.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)and the opposite for Bernie. His are all from the membership. Go look it up. EVERY Hillary endorsement of Hillary by a union or other organization is from the small group of leaders and NOT the members.
What I think is beyond silly, is that Hillary supporters don't seem to be able to understand the difference between a few lobbyists in management and the actual membership.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Please excuse me, I need to roll on the floor for my next round of laughter. The irony of the post you respond to is ... you just can't make this thing up. Only reality can come up with a situation so absurd.
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)between union members voicing their support (actual support in numbers from members) versus the leadership deciding absent that approval.
hillary supporters apparently don't do nuance well, no?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)Was membership polled, or is this just another bureaucratic endorsement?
If membership was polled, then I extend my congratulations to Hillary's campaign. If it was not polled, then this is kind of a shrug for me.
obamanut2012
(26,079 posts)Nice endorsement.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,010 posts)Alfresco
(1,698 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)Gamecock Lefty
(700 posts)But I knew it was just a matter of time before a BS supporter asked if the members were polled or just the organization endorsed. They have an argument for everything good that comes to Hillary Clinton.
Now that the writing is on the wall for Bernie it seems his supporters have gotten even nastier (if thats possible) and have you noticed since Super Tuesday that DU has been hijacked mostly with anti-Hillary threads? Even the threads with silly titles such as I was voting for Hillary until I read this article is total bullshit.
But I digress! I love these threads with good news for our candidate! Everybody loves a winner and Hillary is!!!
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)at this point. Someone should compile a list of all the groups and people that Hillary has either paid off or frightened into supporting her.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)I can't remember who had it on their show. It was a list of endorsements for Hillary and for Bernie. And the 3rd column was the "methodology".
In EVERY case for Hillary it was the small group of managers who made that endorsement.
In EVERY case for Bernie it was from taking a vote of the membership.
That is a Yuuuuuge difference.
Yes, the elites are for Hillary. . they meet, make the deal and out comes the endorsement that has nothing to do with what their membership thinks.
Business as usual . . . . and you guys don't seem to get it. BIG DIFFERENCE!
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Haveadream
(1,630 posts)For your support of the United Farm Workers!
Of course they do. We'll see how the rank and file line up down the road. .... But have to hand it to the Clinton machine -- they seem to have the ability pull every damn lever.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)ding, ding, ding - - - out comes the endorsement that has nothing to do with what the actual members want.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)In EVERY case so far of a union or any other organization endorsing her it has been the LEADERSHIP who gave the endorsement.
In EVERY case of endorsements for Bernie it has been a poll of the membership.
There is quite a difference between a few of the corporate people talking with Hillary and the actual members voting for her.
I think people are tired of their views not getting into the conversation but having the big wigs meeting behind closed doors and making all the decisions. Isn't that one of the main things this election is about?
And usually, when you look at who those leaders are they are lobbyists. So you have a bunch of lobbyists meeting with someone who is paid by the lobbyists making the decision. Not very "democratic".
Somehow this Yuuuuuge distinction is isn't able to be made.
bvf
(6,604 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Gene Debs
(582 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)and consistently brings out the crickets, isn't it?
Robbins
(5,066 posts)union killer free trader clinton gets another endorsement by corrupt union bosses who have sold out working people on road
to clinton losing to trump in november.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)stupidicus
(2,570 posts)eom
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Clinton machine has been known for their list of enemies that get ignored when they are in office. In the follow up campaign to the MN primary I heard from and talked to the rank and file and they are sticking with Bernie.
I think the bosses were covering their asses and making sure they were not on Hillary's list.
Onlooker
(5,636 posts)It's great she has so much minority support, but how is she going to convince the white middle class young to back her if she wins the nomination?
UtahLib
(3,179 posts)Haveadream
(1,630 posts)Leaders elected by UFW members under union contracts Maria de Jesus and Guillermo Garcia of Ventura County (Calif), Liliana Herrera of Sonoma County (Calif.), Efren Fraide and Justo Tovar of Monterey County (Calif.), Agustin Garcia of Fresno County (Calif.), Jose Sanchez of San Joaquin County (Calif.), Efren Ayala of Tulare County (Calif.), Beronica Rivas and Salvador Castillo of Kern County (Calif.), Gerardo Rios of Yakima (Wash.) and Raul Esparza of Hermiston (Ore.) were among those who asked questions of Secretary Clinton and made motions to her for President. They can be made available for comment.
Here are some of the "leaders" you are impugning. Maybe you consider them to be too "establishment?" Their names are in bold for respect.
*Here's Liliana Herrera with her son. She drives a tractor:
https://www.facebook.com/unitedfarmworkers/photos/a.121511671546.103894.111918396546/10153326877606547/?type=1&theaterhttps://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153326877606547
*Raul Esparza is the Secretary General of the UFW. Esparza de la Paz is a worker at a company where he labors feeding dairy and meat cows in eastern Oregon. A father of four with ten grandchildren.
*Here's Efrain Fraide. He has been picking broccoli, with his wife, for 25 years:
*This is Jose Sanchez. He picks tomatoes:
One of his campaigns was for water for workers:"You can save farm workers lives this summer
Friday we shared our most recent victory with you, a settlement with the state of California that will protect farm workers from extreme heat. Hopefully these enhanced regulations will mean we will never see another farm worker heat death. But for this to happen, we need to have UFW organizers go out to the fields and look for violations as well as to talk to farm workers about their rights.
This past weekend, temperatures in the San Joaquin Valley exceeded 100 degrees. And farm workers were out there laboring to harvest the food we eat. Jose Sanchez has worked in the tomatoes since he was young"."
Si Si Puede!!
Alfresco
(1,698 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... the news of this endorsement really helps to put the kibash on such unrealistic expectations.
Go, Hillary! We love you!