Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:26 AM Mar 2016

‘Warren is a Wuss’: Bernie Sanders Fans Turn on Elizabeth Warren For Not Endorsing

http://www.mediaite.com/online/warren-is-a-wuss-bernie-sanders-fans-turn-on-elizabeth-warren-for-not-endorsing/

by Tommy Christopher

With the Republican presidential primary devolving into a Jerry Springer episode shot on location at the Thunderdome, it’s easy to forget the sundry internal dramas playing out among Democrats. While there’s an obvious split between the Obama coalition that largely supports Hillary Clinton and the progressiver-than-thou wing that supports Bernie Sanders, there now appears to be a schism-within-a-schism developing between Sanders supporters and progressive saint Senator Elizabeth Warren.

At issue is Warren’s failure to endorse Bernie Sanders ahead of Super Tuesday, which supporters feel could have delivered Sanders a victory in the closely-fought Massachusetts primary. RawStory’s TBogg collected some Bernie fans’ reactions from Warren’s Facebook page:

Your unwillingness to endorse Bernie prior to Super Tuesday indicates to me that your fear of pressure from Hillary friends on Capitol Hill “trumps” your commitment to the progressive cause. I have lost faith in you and the DNC.

Elizabeth – is there ANY reason on God’s green earth that you’re sitting quiet in the corner while Bernie is awaiting your endorsement? Am I missing something here???

Is she really part of the establishment? How can she, as a representative of the people, as a self proclaimed progressive, not publicly endorse Bernie Sanders? Do you think she owes Clinton some political favors? hmmmm.

With every day that passes without your endorsement of Sanders, Wall Street rejoices, and the corporate owned Hillary Clinton is validated. Shame on you.

Sen Warren let all of the progressives down and the country by not endorsing us before Super Tuesday. With her help, we could have and should have won Mass. Why and what does she have up her sleeve???

Karl Rove’s money? Are you smoking crack? I love Elizabeth and would have supported her over Bernie had she chose to run, but I am deeply disappointed in her for not supporting Bernie when it mattered. She will lose ALL credibility if she supports Hillary at any point as Shillary is tied to Wall Street.


(More in link)
34 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
‘Warren is a Wuss’: Bernie Sanders Fans Turn on Elizabeth Warren For Not Endorsing (Original Post) MrWendel Mar 2016 OP
For me, tempest in a teapot. djean111 Mar 2016 #1
If Bernie's campaign and supporters TRULY believed that he'd be the nominee ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #2
The attacks on Bernie supporters - what are they intended to accomplish? Avalux Mar 2016 #3
It's all Brockshit. No proof at all that those are Bernie supporters. Autumn Mar 2016 #7
Isn't this like the third or fourth time this stories been run? azurnoir Mar 2016 #15
There's nothing else they can use. They can't attack Bernie so they play with what they have. Autumn Mar 2016 #17
Here is a thread full. fun n serious Mar 2016 #20
Any proof those posters on DU voicing their opinion are the ones going after her on other Autumn Mar 2016 #22
Some admit and condone it here... fun n serious Mar 2016 #23
Any links to them doing it on her face book page? I don't see that thread so I need Autumn Mar 2016 #24
Nope, not seeing it there. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #32
brock interns keeping busy......nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #26
Bingo. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #30
I totally agree! haikugal Mar 2016 #31
This litmus test BS will only hurt Bernie and the party. Warren does not deserve this crap. LonePirate Mar 2016 #4
You assume the veracity of this story having originated with Bernie supporters. Ever hear of Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #6
I don't share your conspiracy explanation. DU is rife with litmus tests and DU is tame usually. LonePirate Mar 2016 #9
not conspiracy or theory. Dirty Tricks occur EVERY presidential campaign cycle without exception. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #11
You're turning a blind eye here. Dirty tricks from HRC supporters don't include them trashing her. LonePirate Mar 2016 #14
Funny thing is, there is a whole other (and much nastier) party playing in this space. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #18
It's what I've said for a long time now: no politician wants to be on the losing end of a vote. randome Mar 2016 #5
Reporting on internet comments UglyGreed Mar 2016 #8
It's so odd when you click on any of the nasty FB posts all you get Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #10
I noticed that too Bettie Mar 2016 #12
Newly formed Facebook page Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #29
I doubt that. DU doesn't really do much on social media. FB and Twitter yes. Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #33
Elizabeth Warren is officially all grown up. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #13
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #28
Strange how these Sanders' supporters blaming Warren only exist on Facebook, Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #16
It exist here.... fun n serious Mar 2016 #21
No, that was someone hoping she would endorse him, not someone blaming here for refusing to do so. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #25
These post are Gwhittey Mar 2016 #19
It's getting mighty crowded under the Berinie bus Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #27
When did this happen? EndElectoral Mar 2016 #34
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. For me, tempest in a teapot.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:33 AM
Mar 2016

I love Warren, and she has her own (valuable to all of us) political career to think about.

Full disclosure - endorsements do not matter to me, not for politicians, not for soda, or anything in between. I figure everybody has their own reasons or fears or objectives or price.

In other words, if Warren endorsed Hillary, I would still be a Bernie supporter, full steam ahead. And I would still vote for Warren, given the chance.

ISSUES, people. Not endorsements, ISSUES. Warren has made it clear, IMO, that she agrees with Bernie on ISSUES.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
2. If Bernie's campaign and supporters TRULY believed that he'd be the nominee ...
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:35 AM
Mar 2016

... then I think they wouldn't be so eager and willing to gleefully throw potential allies "under the bus". If they HONESTLY believed that Bernie was going to be the nominee, then they also understand that they'll NEED these groups and individuals to campaign-for and support Bernie during the general election.

So, they're making a very unwise decision in their campaign strategy (because they risk having less support later on from those groups and individuals that they've smeared and trashed) OR ... they already understand that Bernie isn't going to be the nominee, and figuratively throwing someone "under the bus" is just an expression of anger, revenge and sour-grapes.

In my opinion, it's not something that the campaign and supporters of a real contender would be doing.

Oh well. The mistake is theirs to make. The damage has been done, I guess there's no particular reason for them to stop now.

Go, Hillary! We love you!


Avalux

(35,015 posts)
3. The attacks on Bernie supporters - what are they intended to accomplish?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:36 AM
Mar 2016

If Bernie can't win the nomination, why bother? I will say this again - this sort of fabricated bullshit will only keep people from voting for Hillary in the GE if she's the nom. Brock is cutting off her nose to spite her face.

Autumn

(45,090 posts)
22. Any proof those posters on DU voicing their opinion are the ones going after her on other
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

social media like the ones linked in this OP? Produce it if you have it otherwise that link don't prove shit, Brockshit

Autumn

(45,090 posts)
24. Any links to them doing it on her face book page? I don't see that thread so I need
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

a specific link. Otherwise I call brockshit.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
4. This litmus test BS will only hurt Bernie and the party. Warren does not deserve this crap.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:37 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie needs to tell his supporters to stop acting like Trump's supporters. We're better than that.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
6. You assume the veracity of this story having originated with Bernie supporters. Ever hear of
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:44 AM
Mar 2016

dirty tricks?

This shit is neither representative of Bernie nor of any Bernie supporter that I know. When shit happens that goes against those realities, I always defer to suspicion of skulduggery during campaign season and I recommend that you do too.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
9. I don't share your conspiracy explanation. DU is rife with litmus tests and DU is tame usually.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:07 PM
Mar 2016

It's certainly not much of a leap for some Bernie supporters beyond the restrained confines of DU to pull crap like this, especially for some of the more vocal Bernie supporters I know outside of DU.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
11. not conspiracy or theory. Dirty Tricks occur EVERY presidential campaign cycle without exception.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:15 PM
Mar 2016

Including this cycle. Remember the brew-ha-ha over so-called Bernie supporters infiltrating casino employee break rooms in Nurse's Union tees? It turned out to be Hillary supporters pretending to be Bernie supporters. The list goes on and on. Are all dirty tricks initiated by orders from the campaign? No. Some are indeed over-zealous supporters. So, no conspiracy and no theory. I just recommend you take reports of uncharacteristic behaviors with patience (truth usually will prevail eventually) and a large grain of salt.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
14. You're turning a blind eye here. Dirty tricks from HRC supporters don't include them trashing her.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:35 PM
Mar 2016

Did you read some of those examples? Hardcore HRC supporters are not going to drag her to filth while criticizing Warren. That sort of HRC hate comes only from Republicans or Bernie supporters. You surely have seen the HRC hate here on DU - and it's worse away from here. Yet somehow you find it easier to believe that hate would not incite this sort of behavior; but dirty tricks disguised as HRC hate from her own supporters is the more reasonable explanation for you. Occam's Razor must not exist in your version of the world.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
18. Funny thing is, there is a whole other (and much nastier) party playing in this space.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:46 PM
Mar 2016

Just because I used the Nevada example does not mean I attribute all dirty tricks to the Hillary campaign. Quite the contrary, Karl Rove is still roaming free (should be in jail but that's another conversation!).

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. It's what I've said for a long time now: no politician wants to be on the losing end of a vote.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:39 AM
Mar 2016

In this case, an endorsement to a losing candidate would be seen as the same thing.

Warren is a politician, same as Sanders, same as Clinton, same as the rest of them. Yes, Sanders and Warren have a more populous streak in them, and that's all good, but they still share the same basic attributes as Clinton: they are politicians.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

Nanjeanne

(4,960 posts)
10. It's so odd when you click on any of the nasty FB posts all you get
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:10 PM
Mar 2016

Is a newly formed FB page with no likes or friends or anything visible. Sure some people keep some things hidden but everything? Every one? Yeah. This is the work of trolls. Maybe just trolls. Maybe Clinton people. But Bernie people are pretty proud of supporting Sanders and I'm not seeing those people being anything but respectful to Warren.

David Brock -- sounds like you there!

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
12. I noticed that too
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

trolls will be trolls.

Are there probably a few Sanders supporters who are also douches? Yeah.

Every candidate out there has a few wingnuts in the bucket.

And there is plenty of trolling as well.

I have not seen anything negative here about Warren, but, to be fair, I do not read each and every post.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,986 posts)
29. Newly formed Facebook page
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:32 PM
Mar 2016

Not unlike many of the newly formed DU accounts supporting Bernie Sanders. I don't doubt that many of them are GOP sock puppets it's just that I see so many long time DUers agreeing with the crap they post.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
16. Strange how these Sanders' supporters blaming Warren only exist on Facebook,
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

and none have voiced their anger at DU and other forums.

It's almost as if such voices only exist when Brock pays them to exist.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
25. No, that was someone hoping she would endorse him, not someone blaming here for refusing to do so.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:25 PM
Mar 2016

And that was before Super Tuesday, not after.

But as usual, camp Weathervane doesn't really care about accurate presentation of the opposing side's positions.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
19. These post are
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016

getting stupi. Post after post are articles telling me how people on twitter/facebook said xyz and they are xyz? How is this even a thing? I saw a few weeks ago 1000s of tweets from Latinos(if you go by the name and photo of twitter account) saying Donald Trump was the 2nd coming of Christ and would save America. So Why is a bunch of DUers here posting this crap if it supports there candidate. Should I now read Twitter and decide my canidate based on what a supposed person on twitter said? If that is case Trump would have my vote because Latinos think he is great...

This is mostly HRC supporters I see, so I might be biased so if you have Sanders things where they are saying Hillary supporters did xyz on twitter so it must be true post the links so I may see.

PLEASE TWITTER/FACEBOOK as a SOURCE is not responsible Journalism. But maybe I am crazy because I use to work as programmer for a print Newspaper's website and it influenced me to be a bit picky in my sources.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»‘Warren is a Wuss’: Berni...