2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLet's all take a moment to acknowledge Hillary's LEADERSHIP!
With her at the helm, I'm certain we expect more great accomplishments from her, such as:
[font color="green"]2016 (Super Tuesday)________________________________________________[/font]
Tonight I witnessed a shameful display of voter supression in Minnesota
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511387667
I can't wear my Bernie shirt but they let this woman walk back and forth will a Hillary t shirt!!! (in Mass.)
What's going on in New Bedford MA - Bill Clinton there and no one can get in to vote
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511382831
- related -
Bernie Sanders supporters booted AFTER Bill Clinton gives speech at polling station
[font color="green"]2016 primary__________________________________________________[/font]
EXPOSED: 'Neutral' Media Pundits Have Financial Ties to Hillary Clinton Campaign
More DISHONEST ATTACKS From The Hillary Clinton Campaign
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511376877
A Trojan Horse In Clintons Pledge To Enhance Social Security?
https://ourfuture.org/20151015/a-trojan-horse-in-clintons-pledge-to-enhance-social-security
Hillary Clinton, campaign bully
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2016/1/hillary-clinton-campaign-bully.html
Clintons Campaign Just Got Busted Impersonating Union Nurses in Nevada
http://usuncut.com/politics/clintons-campaign-just-got-busted-impersonating-union-nurses-in-nevada/
Dirty Tricks at Work: Hillary Clinton projected winner in Nevada Caucuses amidst reports of some voters not allowed to participate and other shenanigans
http://www.thelasttradition.com/2016/02/dirty-tricks-at-work-hillary-clinton.html
Now that Clinton is losing ground in the polls, her desperate campaign has resorted to ruthless Cold War tactics of red-baiting, The Red Scare and McCarthyism.
http://bud-meyers.blogspot.com/2016/01/desperate-clinton-campaign-resorts-to.html
Clinton took aim at Bernie Sanders' single-payer health care plan on Monday, characterizing it as "turning over your and my health insurance to governors,"
http://theweek.com/articles/598798/hillary-clintons-dirty-attack-bernie-sanders
'Fighting Dirty,' Clinton's 'Inflammatory Distortion' of Sanders' Single-Payer Plan
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/01/12/fighting-dirty-clintons-inflammatory-distortion-sanders-single-payer-plan
Hillary Plays Dirty as Her Numbers Drop
http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-plays-dirty-as-her-numbers-drop-1439419247
Hillary Clinton Campaign Buys Caucus Day Takeover of Des Moines Register Home Page
http://www.nytimes.com/live/iowa-caucus-2016-election/clinton-campaign-buys-caucus-day-takeover-of-the-des-moines-register/
I Just Got Push Polled by Hillary Clintons Nevada Campaign
http://www.nolandalla.com/i-just-got-push-polled-by-hillary-clintons-nevada-campaign/
Clinton Supporters Contorts Queer History to Attack Sanders' Record
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-c-frank/clinton-campaign-contorts_b_9184856.html
How Hillary Stole Nevada: Voter Fraud Caught on Camera
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/more-dirty-tricks-hillary-nevada/ri12975
Voter Fraud and 'Missing' Precincts: How Clinton Stole Iowa
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/voter-fraud-and-missing-precincts-how-clinton-stole-iowa/ri12583
Union Leadership Uses Dirty Trick For Hillary In Nevada
[font color="green"]2008 primary[/font]
In Iowa, New Hampshire and now Nevada, the Clinton campaign has sought to suppress the vote of her rivals' supporters.
http://www.alternet.org/story/73782/hillary_clinton's_dirty_campaign_tactics
Clinton aides claim Obama photo wasn't intended as a smear
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton
Avalux
(35,015 posts)wouldsman
(94 posts)Ready to do any conniving thing she can think of. Take every single action right up to the edge of legal limits, and many just beyond. It is the family M.O.
"I did not have relations with that server"
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Clinton will just go through all options, starting with the worst, and do the right thing only after all other available options have been exhausted.
djean111
(14,255 posts)Cue the ubiquitous whine of "but pinkie swear you will vote for her if she turns out to be the lesser evil!!!!!!" crap.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)I, for one, will not vote for the lesser evil.
840high
(17,196 posts)kind of evil. Go Bernie.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)indicates to me that you and I both know Hillary will be the next President.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)it your face. Because authoritarians love authority.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)If we could all refrain from declaring that we 'know' one candidate or another will be the next President of the United States, it would be one small step toward positive communication.
None of us know that Sanders, Clinton, ...ok, I'll just spit it out... Trump, etc., won't have a heart attack or stroke before the election, have some revelation emerge that completely ruins their candidacy, have a life-changing experience that leads to a pull-out, etc.
Supporters of either candidate only succeed in antagonizing supporters of the other by making claims that would require time travel to verify. And, if that is true, the only value in making them is to get into a shouting match with others who take the bait.
We could all do with a lot less of that on this site...
Just FYI - nothing against you, you're one of lots of people on the site who've done the same thing. I just happened to be browsing through the more offensively titled... OPs? on the site over lunchtime and, among a lot of quite unpleasant stuff, noticed what you wrote. Just random chance.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)what to write in your posts, and you will not tell me what to write in my posts.
SkyIsGrey
(378 posts)nt
RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)Only asked for, perhaps, for a small element of civility that we could all benefit from.
Sorry to have bothered you.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)based on the fact she's more dishonest than he is at least harmfully so. now on the same token you can be more Reponsible than say Trump. But Dishonesty hurts just as much as Irresponsibility and he can bring and is bring more young people to the party now as hillary is seen as the winner and the more she's seen as the winner the more we lose. So with less than 200 delegates apart this is far from over. Only the media wants a winner now
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Click on them and learn more about your candidate of choice.
It's the American way.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)a thing especially when they bias and filled with right wing talking points.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Response to asuhornets (Reply #5)
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asuhornets
(2,405 posts)jbrooks655
(12 posts)"Can I say that here at the Bernie Sanders Underground"??
Bernie Sanders Underground until March 15th..
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)I had a lot of it left over.
Great reading in those links, thanks.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)Turning Libya into a terrorist cesspool was awesome!
Ya Hillary!
Lorien
(31,935 posts)she aims to sink us all.
Wednesdays
(17,376 posts)He was merely ignoring safety precautions in order to please his corporate boss, J. Bruce Ismay.
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)mckara
(1,708 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)that's admired in America these days.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)And I notice there are no coherent or credible responses from Hillarians. None.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Go, Hillary! We love you!
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)earthside
(6,960 posts)https://theintercept.com/2016/03/01/nra-lobbyist-will-co-host-clinton-fundraiser/
What's do 'to better' than the OP and all the evidence of Hillary's flip-flops and her machine cronyism kind of politics?
But, of course, just like on Fox News .... when it comes to facts on Hillary "It Just Doesn't Matter!"
jwirr
(39,215 posts)Deadshot
(384 posts)I'll write-in Bernie's name on the ballot.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)PonyUp
(1,680 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)snort
(2,334 posts)How do you boot an ex-pres and his secret service guys? You don't.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)There's no way he's going to let her be president. He'll be hovering in the background telling her what to do every time a decision needs to be made. He just can't help himself.
You may think you're voting for her. That in itself would be bad enough, but you're going to get him. And thats a disaster.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)andrewv1
(168 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)And none of the dirty tricks she pulled were in ANY WAY, mean spirited... nice double standard you got going there.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Oh yea that's different. The standards don't apply to Clintons.
List left
(595 posts)Attack the messenger. Does that mean you think any of the behavior in the OP is acceptable???
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)except perhaps an eye-roll and/or a laugh. I promise you - no one feels chastened.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)eom
andrewv1
(168 posts)It was nice to take a break from it all back in 2008....
Little did we know though as SOS, she was taking Saudi money under the table & creating ISIS.
I guess her encore will be to start World War Three if she gets the Presidency (which fortunately I am starting to doubt now).
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Hillary responsible for what her supporters do? ok
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Bernie responsible for what his supporters do? ok.
Hey look at that... works the other way around. Who'da thunk?
FighttheFuture
(1,313 posts)a Hillary supporter from wearing their shirts while they wore theirs? Do you have any examples to show?
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Wow. You should have taken a selfie while she was there.
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)List left
(595 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)AZ Progressive
(3,411 posts)She will take the party down with her.
pberq
(2,950 posts)Thom Hartmann: The Most Disingenuous Attack Against Bernie Yet
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)... Hillary? tRump? ...
... sure, they're good enough to run the country into the ground, too ...
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)so here's a kick
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)seems yall are running against HRC rather than running for Bern.
GOP tried that 4 8 years with Obama.
seems to b working out for yall
as much as it did for the GOP.
tick, tick, tick
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Yeah...not so much...
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)did the rw make bill go electioneering?
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)The main reason people are for Hillary is because she is Hillary and damn it, they are for her. It's her turn, right?
I guess she did help lead us into the disastrous Iraq War, lots of lives lost or ruined, trillions of dollars down the drain. Nice job.
I would cut her a bit more slack had she bought the lies of the Bushies. However I cannot believe she is that naive and dumb to have been suckered, I think she voted yes because she was afraid to vote no. I don't think she was the only one like that either.
C'mon folks there are other family names than Clinton and Bush.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)She gave an impassioned speech on how important it was to vote for the IWR.
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Petrushka
(3,709 posts)Thank you!
bbgrunt
(5,281 posts)k and r
Ivan Kaputski
(528 posts)MaggieD
(7,393 posts)But I am sure if I posted them they would get hidden by Bernie supporters in a heartbeat. Damn, huh?
PoliticalMalcontent
(449 posts)I'm legitimately curious.
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)Thanks for the thread, Bubzer.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)it's all about what HE did - not about what she will do.
I'm sorry, I thought that 3rd terms were now illegal. No thanks.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)The first thing --- the very first thing --- my brother said after Hillary announced last year that she was running again, was a comment about that photo.
He didn't forget about that photo.
And neither did I!!!!!
Perogie
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Duckfan
(1,268 posts)The perfect GOP candidate:
Can't raise the min. wage.
Can't improve healthcare.
Can't address climate change--yet.
Can't fix criminal justice system.
Can't address campaign finance system.
And we certainly can't punish the Wall St. scumbags who nearly destroyed our economy.
amborin
(16,631 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)I often resist the urge to poorsplain' to Hillary Clinton and the obviously financially secure members of the DNC (especially you Debbie Wasserman Schultz) and all the others in the Democratic establishment that keep telling us how well we are all doing, how we are in recovery, how we are on the right track and will continue on this "right track" if we come to heel, just ignore a better option for us and simply elect your wealthy associate Hillary Clinton, after all, those that matter, those that can fill the DNC coffers, will have great access to such a President!
What about our access to a lack of fear of eviction when the numbers don't add up and rent can't be paid that month?
What about our access to a dignified, well-funded mass transit system?
What about our access to education without a lifetime of crushing debt as well as job opportunities that leave us above poverty?
These are questions I ask on a daily basis. What might shock some of you cheerleaders of a system rigged by the elite, for the elite is that those are among the most common thoughts to enter the minds of the average American in this day and age, yes, I said average, but it really is more like the majority of Americans. The majority of us have been left behind in an economy where we lose more each day as the well to do gain more each day, what makes matters worse is that we no longer appear to have much in the way of representation no matter how we vote even if we vote as our own party would have us vote.
I would give what little remains of my life for a party of the people, a labor party, a party that is concerned about the rising and rampant poverty all around the insulated bubbles of the few remaining middle class and the members of our wealthy political elite that love to tell me how great we are doing, how progressive our party is, how our leaders "feel our pain".
I would poorsplain' to you all what the true reality is, our party that once represented the people has for the past thirty years abandoned us to decay as a people as completely as they have abandoned the crumbling bridges, roads, and empty factories that once were the life blood of a people first marginalized, then ignored, and now completely invisible. - it is as if the majority of Americans do not exist to you in your ivory towers.
I would do this splainin' but such is condescension, and anger does not translate well as condescension, but rather rage repressed becomes expressed, and you are an insulated bubble of cheer leading "sports team" enthusiasts that do not have the worries of the common man and as such are quite fragile and easily offended, so much so that you would at first silence me within your "hallowed" halls were I to quietly attempt to poorsplain' to you in person the nature of the reality of the suffering all around you that you are blind to.
Then my condescension would turn to rage and a louder voice, yet before the first paragraph were completed such truth told loudly and plainly would usher in your well suited goons that protect those as privileged as yourselves who would have me roughly handled out the door if not prison itself for my impassioned attempt at "free speech". For such free speech is only allowed from mouths that are fed from golden spoons within such "hallowed" halls as yours....
Yuugal
(2,281 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)redruddyred
(1,615 posts)someone has to