To the chagrin of some.. The Democratic party is a minority majority party

[Peacetrain]

And what does that exactly mean.. no one can win with just part of the Democratic constituency.. Just something to think about..

[ieoeja]

1. Since when?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/160373/democrats-racially-diverse-republicans-mostly-white.aspx

60% - White, Non-Hispanic
22% - Black, Non-Hispanic
13% - Hispanic
2% - Asian
1% - Other
2% - Unknown

[Peacetrain]

2. You seem to be limiting yourself to race..

Men ... Women.. Young.. Old.. Gay.. Straight.. Transgender.. Married.. Unmarried, just for a start.. there are many more groups with points of view than breaking it down just to race alone..

[ieoeja]

3. In which case the Republican Party is also minority majority.

Almost half of them are women. Add the small number of LGBT, Atheists, Muslims, Jews and racial minority Republicans to that, and you would have the majority of Republicans.

[MillennialDem]

7. Good lord. You were wrong, move on. I say this as a white, atheist, trans lesbian woman.

[Peacetrain]

10. You are talking to a white woman with a son

who is a different race.. who is older.. with a brother who is deaf.. and another who died of severe disabilities.. no one can win the general election just speaking to one or two groups.. especially in the Democratic party.. now republicans they seem to be pretty blanded out with one thing in mind .. hate of Obama and the Democrats.. but the Democrats have more on their minds than just hate of the other party.. And our standard bearer is going to represent a much broader group than just hate of the other..

[MillennialDem]

22. I'm in agreement with you that we can't be exclusive - but we are not a minority party. Most

democrats are white. To say otherwise is just factually incorrect.

[Bluenorthwest]

12. The discussions about this on DU always exclude LGBT, if we are attacked that is forgotten and

straight DUers habitually post at us about our own issues including some who are quite upset when the same is done to themselves or other groups.
Let me tell you something. When any person tells me they oppose my rights because they follow the Bible, I expect them to follow the Bible. She does not.

So let's talk about that. Let's talk about how absurd it is for the candidate who openly opposed the rights of millions of Americans until 2013 to be shoved at me as the only candidate who cares about civil rights. What do you think is the message in that? What does it say about this Party's attitude about my rights? Not very much that's good.

You folks pick up LGBT when you wish, discard as you wish. It's been noticed.

[Peacetrain]

13. Look at my post 2

[Bluenorthwest]

17. Your response is to give me an order? WTF?

You heard what I said, you dismiss it. That's what I said your crowd does.

In 2008 you were always against marriage equality yammering about the church and the Bible and how civil unions are good enough for gay people:
"f a hetro civil union is a marriage, and a gay civil union is a marriage, outside of what the churches define as marriage which no politician has any province over, what is the difference.

I am just flummoxed, outside of church traditions, that are available in a few churches, what is the difference?

If they both acknowledge the commitment of two people, and the legal rights involved, what is the difference."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7309029

You and yours were the very exact demographic we and mine had to persuade to stop opposing out rights. All those excuses. And now you present yourself with LGBT as your possession and that's not right. You are not the only straight DU doing this, and I'm sick of it. That high horse, you have no right to it.

[Peacetrain]

18. Just stop it Blue.. you jumped the gun.. and now you are po'd

because I pointed it out to you..

[Bluenorthwest]

20. Another command. You are way, way out of line.

Stop giving me orders. Engage or don't engage but do not speak down to me from on high as if that was your right, it is not your right, straight white majority person. Do not preach at me about LGBT and your candidate ever again.

That's it, I'm calling Hillary's campaign. This has to end.

[Peacetrain]

21. If you think I am out of line for stating that the Democratic Party is more than one

group,.. than you go and alert away on the audacity of that statement.... because I am standing by that..

[Kentonio]

23. Women are a majority, not a minority. What's your point?

[Betty Karlson]

4. Can we please stop fanning the racial division fires?

This can only end badly.

[Peacetrain]

5. Who is fanning racial anything?

[Svafa]

6. What point are you trying to make? Come out with it instead of hiding behind vagueries and hints.

[Peacetrain]

8. my point is .. no one can win anything with just one or two groups

of the Democratic constituency.. nothing vague .. plain as day..

[Svafa]

9. Who are you implying has the support of just "one or two groups"? And what are those groups?

[Peacetrain]

11. Look at my post 2

and that is just a few.. we are very broad party

[Bluenorthwest]

14. You, a straight person, made use of LGBT in your OP, so why not cut the passive aggression and

speak your mind straight? This game playing with other people's candy is annoying.

[Peacetrain]

16. What are you talking about..

My original post..:

To the chagrin of some.. The Democratic party is a minority majority party
And what does that exactly mean.. no one can win with just part of the Democratic constituency.. Just something to think about..




You post to me:
Bluenorthwest (41,156 posts)
12. The discussions about this on DU always exclude LGBT, if we are attacked that is forgotten and

straight DUers habitually post at us about our own issues including some who are quite upset when the same is done to themselves or other groups.
Let me tell you something. When any person tells me they oppose my rights because they follow the Bible, I expect them to follow the Bible. She does not.

So let's talk about that. Let's talk about how absurd it is for the candidate who openly opposed the rights of millions of Americans until 2013 to be shoved at me as the only candidate who cares about civil rights. What do you think is the message in that? What does it say about this Party's attitude about my rights? Not very much that's good.

You folks pick up LGBT when you wish, discard as you wish. It's been noticed.



Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:54 PM

Peacetrain (14,660 posts)
13. Look at my post 2

(which is )
2. You seem to be limiting yourself to race..

Men ... Women.. Young.. Old.. Gay.. Straight.. Transgender.. Married.. Unmarried, just for a start.. there are many more groups with points of view than breaking it down just to race alone..

_____________________________________________________________________________

[Bluenorthwest]

19. You use us when you wish, disregard us and don't even read our posts at other times.

We are a minority when it serves you forgotten when it does not. In 08 you were 'civil unions are the same, the church can do as it wants and the Bible says' and now you support the least favorable to LGBT candidate but you snap that rainbow flag to score points in a war you wish to make. I do not care for it.

I don't much care for the ethics of the Clinton Christians whom I call DOMAcrats because they all opposed equality until recently. Stop acting like you put on your comfortable shoes and marched with us.


Your entire cohort is full of DU's most anti gay people. Ugly histories all prancing around like they own us for Hillary.

Because of that, my GE vote is no longer a promise. It's just not. You folks would bargain away my rights and then laugh about it.

[Svafa]

15. Ok, so who is chagrined by that? I think you're really just stating the obvious....

All of us here know that democrats have a big tent. And who is advocating that we only try to appeal to "one or two groups"?