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TroyD

(4,551 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:40 PM Oct 2012

Nate Silver: G.O.P. Senate Hopes Fade

As Nate Silver says, the Democrats went from being likely to lose the Senate only a few months ago, to having an 83.6% chance of winning it in the latest Senate update.

Races that were tough (eg. MA) and races that seemed lost (eg. WI) only months ago, are now leaning Dem.

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Here are some of the the current projections:

MA (Elizabeth Warren) Chance of winning : 79%

MO (Claire McCaskill) Chance of winning: 79%

VA (Tim Kaine) Chance of winning: 77%

CT: (Chris Murphy) Chance of winning: 72%

WI: (Tammy Baldwin) Chance of winning: 82%

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More examples at the link:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/13/g-o-p-senate-hopes-fade-even-as-romneys-rise-polls-show/

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Nate Silver: G.O.P. Senate Hopes Fade (Original Post) TroyD Oct 2012 OP
sweet! and Heinrich is leading by double digits in NM too NMDemDist2 Oct 2012 #1
Yes, Heinrich is one of the Democrats who is basically guaranteed to win TroyD Oct 2012 #2
I can't even remember the name of the guy running against Senator Cantwell. Aristus Oct 2012 #6
Me, too.... Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #30
Stabenow = 99% SWEET! catbyte Oct 2012 #17
Yeah, I voted absentee for Diane Feinstein today lunatica Oct 2012 #20
Josh Mandel was probably the worst candidate for the GOP to run against WCGreen Oct 2012 #21
'Josh Mandel was probably the worst candidate for the GOP to run' TroyD Oct 2012 #34
Yay, Murphy back in the lead flamingdem Oct 2012 #3
This and the house (although less likely to get 25)... very crucial. JackN415 Oct 2012 #4
Would love to flip the house... Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #31
. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #5
Chris Murphy at 72% Woot! gkhouston Oct 2012 #7
We are canvassing tomorrow for him. Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #16
Indiana TroyD Oct 2012 #8
May This Come Through at The Voting Booths! Cha Oct 2012 #9
I hate to be cynical... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #10
Yes, but these have been holding steady for a while now, and . . . TroyD Oct 2012 #11
Am I right that only the WI and MA races would SheilaT Oct 2012 #12
MA would change from R to D TroyD Oct 2012 #13
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2012 #14
Nate Silver still has ARIZONA & NEVADA as out of reach, but . . . TroyD Oct 2012 #15
Let's hope Nate's wrong about Crmona like he was wrong about Angle back in 2010 catbyte Oct 2012 #47
I can't remember exactly what Nate predicted, but you may be right TroyD Oct 2012 #48
Will there be 60 dems in the Senate after the election? no_hypocrisy Oct 2012 #18
No, unfortunately TroyD Oct 2012 #19
and 54 would protect us a little more than 51 mucifer Oct 2012 #22
I was wondering if Pres O was going down like Iliyah Oct 2012 #23
K&R. Yaaaaaay! Overseas Oct 2012 #24
Encouraging.. will be glad when it's over mountain grammy Oct 2012 #25
Yea yeaa Tammy Baldwin has best % of winning. MassedPole Oct 2012 #26
VA- Allen has little money but he is going to flood the airwaves the last 3 weeks underpants Oct 2012 #27
I'm no hair (tortoise and the hair) ffr Oct 2012 #28
51....54...56....60.....none of these numbers is the MOST important thing... Moostache Oct 2012 #29
Truer words were never spoken.... Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #32
Filibuster proof? budkin Oct 2012 #33
Arizona Savanna Anna Oct 2012 #35
How many more days are there in AZ for registration? TroyD Oct 2012 #38
last day was on the 9th (of this month) desertduck Oct 2012 #40
Oct 9th Savanna Anna Oct 2012 #54
Welcome to DU, Savanna Anna!!! Moosepoop Oct 2012 #39
Thank you Moosepoop!!!! Savanna Anna Oct 2012 #55
Hey Savanna Anna, Welcome to DU! calimary Oct 2012 #42
Thanks for the Welcome!! Savanna Anna Oct 2012 #57
Last I heard Brown was ahead of Warren...so that's great news. Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #36
Warren has been ahead of Brown for the past month TroyD Oct 2012 #37
HUGE turnaround Cosmocat Oct 2012 #41
'Baldwin has been a big surprise' TroyD Oct 2012 #44
Yeah Cosmocat Oct 2012 #52
What is making me wonder is two things: Left Coast2020 Oct 2012 #43
NV and ND are not impossible either DFW Oct 2012 #45
NV is certainly possible TroyD Oct 2012 #46
Precisely BECAUSE Heitkamp has been doing better than expected DFW Oct 2012 #50
Nate has updated them again: TroyD Oct 2012 #49
I'm pleased to hear about Indiana, although 52% is no lock, and this is just one guy's take DFW Oct 2012 #51
North Dakota is closer to a toss-up right now. Coyotl Oct 2012 #53
Democratic Party will et the triple crown Lucy Fer Oct 2012 #56

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
2. Yes, Heinrich is one of the Democrats who is basically guaranteed to win
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:56 PM
Oct 2012

Heinrich and several others are what we could class as the "90%+" Club:

NM: (Heinrich) Chance of winning: 94%

OH: (Sherrod Brown) Chance of winning: 92%

ME: (King (I) ) Chance of winning: 89%

PA: (Casey) Chance of winning: 94%

WV: (Manchin) Chance of winning: 94%

NJ: (Menendez) Chance of winning: 97%

HI: (Hirono) Chance of winning: 99%

MY: (Cardin) Chance of winning: 99%

MI: (Debbie Stabenow) Chance of winning: 99%

VT: (Sanders (I) ) Chance of winning: 99%

RI: (Whitehouse) Chance of winning: 99%

MN: (Klobuchar) Chance of winning: 100%

CA: (Dianne Feinstein) Chance of winning: 100%

DE: (Carper) Chance of winning: 100%

WA: (Cantwell) Chance of winning: 100%

NY: (Gillibrand) Chance of winning : 100%

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
6. I can't even remember the name of the guy running against Senator Cantwell.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:09 PM
Oct 2012

He must have a terrible ground game. I'm voting for our Senator!

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
17. Stabenow = 99% SWEET!
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:24 PM
Oct 2012

Makes sense, though. I live in The DeVos Kingdom, GR, and have seen ONE yard sign for Hoekstra.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
20. Yeah, I voted absentee for Diane Feinstein today
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:37 PM
Oct 2012

Yuk! I despise her, and if a Democrat had run against her I would have voted for him/her. As it is a Republican ran against her so I had to vote for her to keep the Senate. Fuck! That woman has the fucking luck of GWB!

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
21. Josh Mandel was probably the worst candidate for the GOP to run against
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 09:01 PM
Oct 2012

Sherrod Brown.

Another silver spoon candidate fielded by the GOP.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
34. 'Josh Mandel was probably the worst candidate for the GOP to run'
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 04:15 PM
Oct 2012

He is such a snotty little thing. The OHIO newspapers have really gotten fed up with him lately and some of them have really ripped him apart and many have endorsed Brown.

I don't know if it's been posted here yet, but he got into a fight with the editorial board of one of the newspapers last week, as well as a radio interviewer who ended up hanging up on him!

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
16. We are canvassing tomorrow for him.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:21 PM
Oct 2012

What is helping him is that Republican women do NOT like Linda McSteroids, her business, or her husband's history of giving steroids to the WWE performers. If the numbers hold and 1 out of 4 Republicans cross over for Murphy on November 6th, Linda McMahon would have wasted some $70 million of her money for nothing.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
8. Indiana
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:19 PM
Oct 2012

Forgot to post this one above:

(Joe Donnelly): Chance of winning: 51%

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Bill Clinton was just there a few days ago. That could give him another boost.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
10. I hate to be cynical...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:23 PM
Oct 2012

...but Obama's re-elect odds were better than that on 538 just ten days ago.

I'm sure another set of polls from WeAskAmericARGravismussen could turn around those odds in a hurry.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
11. Yes, but these have been holding steady for a while now, and . . .
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:28 PM
Oct 2012

It's unlikely we'll have another setback like the debate which has national repercussions for all the Senate races.

In fact, Nate Silver pointed out that the fact that the chances of the Democrats winning the Senate did not go down over the past week is a bad sign for the GOP.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
12. Am I right that only the WI and MA races would
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:37 PM
Oct 2012

change an R Senator to a D one?

How many would that give us in the Senate?

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
13. MA would change from R to D
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 07:38 PM
Oct 2012

But not WI. We currently hold that seat already. It is opening up because Sen. Herb Kohl is retiring.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
15. Nate Silver still has ARIZONA & NEVADA as out of reach, but . . .
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:14 PM
Oct 2012

He may be underestimating support for Carmona in AZ (I don't think he's included today's +4 Carmona poll), and may be underestimating the Democratic advantage in NV that Shelley could end up with on election day.

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
47. Let's hope Nate's wrong about Crmona like he was wrong about Angle back in 2010
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:34 AM
Oct 2012

Didn't he have her at over 70% chance at winning, but severely underestimated the Hispanic vote for Reid?

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
48. I can't remember exactly what Nate predicted, but you may be right
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:47 AM
Oct 2012

There were definitely several analysts predicting that Angle would win, and Nate may have been one of them.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
19. No, unfortunately
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:33 PM
Oct 2012

Current projections are for about 52-54 Dems.

60 seats is not realistic at this point in time.

But the good news is that there will be a Democratic Majority in the Senate. That was up in the air a few months ago.

So this is still huge news.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
23. I was wondering if Pres O was going down like
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 09:05 PM
Oct 2012

the lean right polls were portraying then why wasn't the Dems in the Senate races going down as well. If Mittens was surging like the corporate media was saying why wasn't he bringing up th rear for the GOPpers? We we know why now don't we.

Still, vote, vote, vote and get your family and friends out to vote!

 

MassedPole

(242 posts)
26. Yea yeaa Tammy Baldwin has best % of winning.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 09:53 PM
Oct 2012

Hope she kicks Tommy Thompsons Tail. Id be voting for her.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
27. VA- Allen has little money but he is going to flood the airwaves the last 3 weeks
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 08:22 AM
Oct 2012

that's okay we are CRUSHING them in canvassing. I knocked on 100 doors yesterday and definitely got 2 people to commit to Kaine.

ffr

(22,670 posts)
28. I'm no hair (tortoise and the hair)
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 10:43 AM
Oct 2012

And I'm not going to sleep until I have everyone I know recorded as voting.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
29. 51....54...56....60.....none of these numbers is the MOST important thing...
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:19 PM
Oct 2012

That MOST important thing is that Harry Reid follow through on his words put in place new rules for the next Senate before the endless stream of filibusters can start again...

Savanna Anna

(5 posts)
35. Arizona
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 04:54 PM
Oct 2012

[link:http://www.kpho.com/story/19814639/new-az-poll-dead-heat-in-presidential-race-latino-vote-key|


New AZ poll: Dead heat in presidential race; Latino vote key
Posted: Oct 14, 2012 12:21 AM PDT Updated: Oct 14, 2012 7:48 AM PDT
By Heather Moore - bio | email

© CBS 5 © CBS 5
PHOENIX (CBS5) -

In the race for the White House, a new poll shows Pres. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are in a dead heat in Arizona.

The Rocky Mountain Poll released Saturday shows it's also neck and neck for the U.S. Senate, and for the first time in a long time, Arizona is looking more like a battleground state.



OK, I never thought I would see this. I live in Arizona and I am thrilled. Last night on the local news, I saw Hispanic voters putting up tables to get as many Hispanics registered as possible.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
38. How many more days are there in AZ for registration?
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:07 PM
Oct 2012

Latino turnout will be key for Carmona to win the race.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
42. Hey Savanna Anna, Welcome to DU!
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:57 PM
Oct 2012

Let's turn AZ blue!

Glad you're here! We need you to help us do exactly that! 'Cause this thing isn't nailed down yet.








Now get to work.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
36. Last I heard Brown was ahead of Warren...so that's great news.
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 05:33 PM
Oct 2012

I wish we could knock all the ReThugs block off.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
37. Warren has been ahead of Brown for the past month
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 06:05 PM
Oct 2012

Warren overtook Brown after her appearance at the DNC convention. There have been a couple of polls giving Brown the edge, but the majority are in Warren's favor now. Both Nate Silver and Larry Sabato have the MA SEN seat leaning in her direction now.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
41. HUGE turnaround
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 07:36 PM
Oct 2012

I always was flumoxed how Warren was running behind Brown. That one HAD to flip.

Baldwin has been a big surprise, I think that was one the Rs had penned in their column.

MO got tea bagged.

I just hope Murphy can leg out that WWF dingbat, and hopefully put her down for good.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
44. 'Baldwin has been a big surprise'
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 05:27 AM
Oct 2012

Tommy Thompson has run one of the worst Senate campaigns of anyone in the country this year, with the exception of Todd Akin.

- > Taking large periods of time off during the campaign

-> Having trouble raising money

-> Forgetting how many houses he owns

-> Allowing his campaign manager to make anti-gay comments about Baldwin

-> And the latest today (about which there is a thread) his son saying voters should send Obama back to Kenya

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
52. Yeah
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 02:29 PM
Oct 2012

Going in, it was just assumed he would walk away with it.

Again, I think the Rs had that one chalked up 6 months ago.

But, agree, he has been a big disappointment (from a general standpoint) and obviously is past his prime and living off his rep, while Baldwin has been pretty sharp.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
43. What is making me wonder is two things:
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 11:26 PM
Oct 2012

How big of a margin would we get if all above win in Senate? I always watch the Senate races because it has SC implications. Second, I was told that we may have trouble with HoR. A staffer with Bera race (to unseat Lungren in CD7) told me his info says batshit Bachman may get her seat back because of her district. It would be an absolute joy to get these teabaggers out and have some sane people in the House who will help the Prez with economic legislation. But I'm hoping we can get House too. We need it. Any clues?

DFW

(54,379 posts)
45. NV and ND are not impossible either
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:11 AM
Oct 2012

With some serious end-spurt groundwork in these states, we might even pull off a 2006 scenario, though that's probably hoping for too much.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
46. NV is certainly possible
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 07:18 AM
Oct 2012

Because Berkley has been close in some of the recent polling, and the Democrats have the stronger ground game in the state.

But ND looks pretty tough, even though Heidi Heitkamp has been doing better than expected. Nate Silver's odds for her look pretty steep.

Good luck to both!

DFW

(54,379 posts)
50. Precisely BECAUSE Heitkamp has been doing better than expected
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 12:34 PM
Oct 2012

I hold out hope that the DSCC will toss her some last minute support. A decent performance by Obama in the last two debates wouldn't hurt, especially if Obama gets to discuss some farm-relief-related questions. Romney doesn't even know what a farm is except for Old McDonald having had one.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
49. Nate has updated them again:
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 08:55 AM
Oct 2012

Arizona

Chance of winning (D) 38% (R) 62%

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Connecticut

Chance of winning (D) 74% (R) 26%

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Florida

Chance of winning (D) 98% (R) 2%

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Indiana

Chance of winning (D) 52% (R) 48%

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Massachusetts

Chance of winning (D) 82% (R) 18%

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Maine

Chance of winning (I )90% (R) 7%

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Missouri

Chance of winning (D) 83% (R) 17%

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North Dakota

Chance of winning (D)22% (R) 78%

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Nevada

Chance of winning (D) 29% (R) 71%

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Wisconsin

Chance of winning (D) 84% (R) 16%

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More Senate projections:

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

DFW

(54,379 posts)
51. I'm pleased to hear about Indiana, although 52% is no lock, and this is just one guy's take
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 12:39 PM
Oct 2012

But his highly pessimistic views on NV and ND are highly discouraging, especially considering the total nut cases running for the Republicans in both states. I can't imagine it looks that dim in both states, which gives me to wonder about the accuracy of the rest.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
53. North Dakota is closer to a toss-up right now.
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 03:17 PM
Oct 2012

Heidi has been making big gains for a while, so that trend may put her over the top in November.

http://heidifornorthdakota.com/

 

Lucy Fer

(11 posts)
56. Democratic Party will et the triple crown
Mon Oct 15, 2012, 03:35 PM
Oct 2012

President
Senate
House

In a few years the Republican Party will be reduced to competing with the Libertarian one, at this pace.

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